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2016 Postmortem

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1. Sen. Sanders has been a D.C. political fixture for decades

Reply to M Kitt (Original post)

Fri Jan 15, 2016, 02:00 PM

Jan 2016

...Martin O'Malley, on the other hand, is the true 'outsider' in this race.

Sec. Clinton and Sen. Sanders are both veterans of that prevaricating, dithering, compromising political institution which rates lower than traffic jams.

Sanders' a principled insider? Yes (to a degree of influence within the system). Outsider? No.

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Senator Sanders is an Outsider, thankfully! [View all] M Kitt Jan 2016 OP

Sen. Sanders has been a D.C. political fixture for decades bigtree Jan 2016 #1

Yup. Agschmid Jan 2016 #3

But as an independent. mmonk Jan 2016 #6

who caucused with, voted well over 95% of the time, with Democrats in Congress bigtree Jan 2016 #7

Because they were closer to his beliefs. mmonk Jan 2016 #9

thus, 'principled' bigtree Jan 2016 #12

Maverick is fine. mmonk Jan 2016 #17

Sanders is not in the pocket of the establishment, by that standard he's an outsider. TIME TO PANIC Jan 2016 #10

he's enmeshed in establishment politics bigtree Jan 2016 #13

Well, let's define what an "Outsider" would be. M Kitt Jan 2016 #14

Bernie is obviously an outsider. Hillary is an insider. JDPriestly Jan 2016 #23

Thanks JDP, agreed. M Kitt Jan 2016 #27

Supposing that were true, it's not, but supposing. M Kitt Jan 2016 #26

I agree somewhat. With Democrats at mmonk Jan 2016 #2

Excellent post!!! K & R! TIME TO PANIC Jan 2016 #4

Bernie has wisdom and experience that Obama didn't have, as special as he also is. Gregorian Jan 2016 #5

Bernie as an outsider??? ha ha. riversedge Jan 2016 #8

Outside of Jamie Dimon. mmonk Jan 2016 #11

He actually is, in many ways, an outsider. It's not just his party status cali Jan 2016 #15

See Reply #13. M Kitt Jan 2016 #16

He is of course NOT an outsider, just the opposite. But, I dont want one anyway randys1 Jan 2016 #18

Refer to comment #13, please. M Kitt Jan 2016 #21

Insider/Outsider? Well, he certainly isn't "politics-as-usual" or "not as bad". K&R Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2016 #19

Aw... Look whose thread got locked! Now talk some more shit! Blue_Tires Jan 2016 #20

Hmm. I'll just say that some of these comments impress me beyond words. M Kitt Jan 2016 #22

K&R. Thanks. JDPriestly Jan 2016 #24

When I first went to the Hill in 1993, Sanders was there. Clinton wasn't. O'Malley wasn't. Recursion Jan 2016 #25

Another Denier, and who do you support? MOM, I see. M Kitt Jan 2016 #28

"Another denier"? What the hell does that even mean? Recursion Jan 2016 #29

Messianic? Replied to in kind, what the hell does that even mean? M Kitt Jan 2016 #30

No, not productive at all Recursion Jan 2016 #31

Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2016 #32