2016 Postmortem

rhett o rick

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81. If by friends you mean like the billionaire kind that are "friends" of H. Clinton. I think

Reply to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #7)

Fri Jan 15, 2016, 06:25 PM

Jan 2016

they are called "quid pro quo" friends. We need honesty in government and not Big Money.

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While watching Rachel Maddow interview Hillary Clinton, I heard one remark Rachel made [View all] Samantha Jan 2016 OP

If he wins the nomination, he will suddenly rank up there with President Obama... Human101948 Jan 2016 #1

What can I say -- Republicans prevaricate Samantha Jan 2016 #4

What can I say: Sander is a fraud on Health Care lewebley3 Jan 2016 #192

I know we can't have a reasonable back and forth on this but rynestonecowboy Jan 2016 #195

Take a moment and go read his proposed bill. All of it. You'll find very quickly he's no fraud Bubzer Jan 2016 #198

His proposed bill was reject 9 times: he didn't have away to work it or lewebley3 Jan 2016 #199

If Bernie wins the election, his stature and message will be greatly magnified, his mandate Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #200

You called him a fraud, without back up your statment. Read the bill. Bubzer Jan 2016 #204

Sanders put hundreds bills forward: that he knows will not get any votes. lewebley3 Jan 2016 #205

I think you're confused. Bubzer Jan 2016 #209

HIllary got something done for the people of Michigan: Sanders sat on his behind lewebley3 Jan 2016 #211

Perhaps one day you'll understand your opinion is insufficient as a viable argument. Bubzer Jan 2016 #212

I did read it enid602 Jan 2016 #201

But Bernie stepped out two days and denied this was true Samantha Jan 2016 #210

WOW. ...and this is the guy without an enemy. bvar22 Jan 2016 #12

WOW. ...and Ted Cruz is without a friend! SharonAnn Jan 2016 #202

So? daleanime Jan 2016 #21

It will be easy to find people who don't like him at that point... Human101948 Jan 2016 #46

At the risk of being boring.... daleanime Jan 2016 #50

+1 Paka Jan 2016 #63

I made a simple observation...I was not promoting one over the other... Human101948 Jan 2016 #65

Who fighting? If you can't handle answering the question.... daleanime Jan 2016 #66

Post removed Post removed Jan 2016 #69

More characteristic of a judgement...a view into the future judgment, at that. libdem4life Jan 2016 #68

Republicans will great Bernie as a hero and throw flowers? Human101948 Jan 2016 #70

Greet catnhatnh Jan 2016 #90

Not entirely true, I know some Republicans that think Bernie is great, but probably no flowers. A Simple Game Jan 2016 #116

+1. bvf Jan 2016 #75

In the immortal words of George W. Bush* Samantha Jan 2016 #85

+100 rynestonecowboy Jan 2016 #196

The republicans have alientated everyone who is NOT white, and half of all women. onecaliberal Jan 2016 #61

They can if they cheat. PyaarRevolution Jan 2016 #127

Well then... malokvale77 Jan 2016 #88

Republicans could not exist without fear and hate... Rockyj Jan 2016 #110

Oooooh ... Republican hatred of Liberals ... I am shocked Trajan Jan 2016 #129

So on The Other Hand, Are You Suggesting That Dems Nominate Someone of Less Than CorporatistNation Jan 2016 #183

Gosh Republicans do that to Democratic candidates? I never knew Armstead Jan 2016 #207

I don't give a damn what republicans think. That is all roguevalley Jan 2016 #48

I'm not worried. They threw everything they had at Obama and lost TWICE.... Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #71

and thousands and thousands of Republicans will VOTE FOR HIM TOO! Ferd Berfel Jan 2016 #91

Sanders will never rank with Obama ever; He's a fraud lewebley3 Jan 2016 #189

You've said that a couple of times now in this thread EvolveOrConvolve Jan 2016 #197

And they will declare Clinton as a Liberal Monster Armstead Jan 2016 #206

Well Rachel,... Segami Jan 2016 #2

Now pay attention Segami! Bernie has no enemies, Hillary and Bill have an enemies list Samantha Jan 2016 #8

But no Rumor Marty McGraw Jan 2016 #22

Yes,..I'm aware of their famous Segami Jan 2016 #25

Shades of Nixon. nt malokvale77 Jan 2016 #94

Sanders is not evern supported by people know him Senator Leah of VT lewebley3 Jan 2016 #191

I make typing errors myself....But can you at least try to get the guy's name right? Armstead Jan 2016 #208

Anyone Who Works Hard and Gets Things Done LeFleur1 Jan 2016 #194

An excellent response if she was prepared to lie. Obviously. she didn't think of it. Gary 50 Jan 2016 #41

but, didn't she already answer that question in the first debate ... ah! Hiraeth Jan 2016 #150

Pretty sure she said that to Chris Hayes afterwards. Don't have the transcript though emulatorloo Jan 2016 #3

No, I saw that interview. Rachael said it to Hillary, and she was caught flat-footed, stunned 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #11

That was my impression, 99th_Monkey Samantha Jan 2016 #20

As I recall Rachel added smthg. about Bernie's favorability in Vermont also. To which appalachiablue Jan 2016 #34

Hillary tried to use Obama ties to Wall St as her excuse INdemo Jan 2016 #73

Nope, to Hillary. Link to video here: Motown_Johnny Jan 2016 #24

Thanks!!!!! emulatorloo Jan 2016 #26

Thanks!! tecelote Jan 2016 #35

And very few enemies in the Republican party either. LiberalArkie Jan 2016 #51

Wow... malokvale77 Jan 2016 #99

Maybe it means they don't hate their fellow Democrats rbrnmw Jan 2016 #115

Maybe you didn't get my post. It's OK. nt malokvale77 Jan 2016 #121

They are not enemies Motown_Johnny Jan 2016 #139

I'll buy that. malokvale77 Jan 2016 #143

Huh Oilwellian Jan 2016 #5

Yep, some have been saying it for months senz Jan 2016 #17

Especially chervilant Jan 2016 #59

Great post, but maybe change the title. Motown_Johnny Jan 2016 #6

With an 83 percent approval rating, Bernie Sanders is the most popular Senator in DC Samantha Jan 2016 #18

Feel free to add that little tidbit in. Motown_Johnny Jan 2016 #23

That's huge... malokvale77 Jan 2016 #104

I suspect that statement by Rachel was ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #7

lol, shall I invoke that tired "under the bus" meme now? senz Jan 2016 #13

How is that throwing Rachel under the bus? eom. 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #37

It seemed off the cuff but indeed she said it very passionately Samantha Jan 2016 #15

I agree with all three points ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #38

Rachel Maddow is in the tank for Sanders. She uses kid gloves with him and then goes after BlueCaliDem Jan 2016 #29

I saw the interview and didn't think Rachel asked a single Gotcha question ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #40

Arguably, BlueCaliDem Jan 2016 #87

LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #96

Well... malokvale77 Jan 2016 #107

Hahahaha! BlueCaliDem Jan 2016 #154

"..... this was an impromptu interview. ..." pangaia Jan 2016 #53

Any question that does not appear on HRCs Talking Points, is a...take your pick... libdem4life Jan 2016 #78

Yes BlueCaliDem Jan 2016 #86

FFS... malokvale77 Jan 2016 #111

FFS BlueCaliDem Jan 2016 #151

? malokvale77 Jan 2016 #153

Well SOMEONE has to balance Chris Matthews' sycophant ass. cherokeeprogressive Jan 2016 #140

"An excellent man" Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #36

This was a great read, Uncle Joe Samantha Jan 2016 #97

... Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #98

You should make this an OP. nt malokvale77 Jan 2016 #112

LOL, nice try! nt Logical Jan 2016 #72

Doesn't have any friends? passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #80

Okay ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #89

In a political world that is based on quid pro quo and favors, yes passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #131

Okay. eom. 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #134

If by friends you mean like the billionaire kind that are "friends" of H. Clinton. I think rhett o rick Jan 2016 #81

No ... In mean friends like these ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #93

While Americans in the 99% were losing a total of 5 Trillion dollars between 2000 and 2015 rhett o rick Jan 2016 #155

The Washington Establishment loves Bernie! firebrand80 Jan 2016 #9

Another reason why Bernie CAN make a difference for our country. senz Jan 2016 #10

They "liked" BHO plenty when he was the underdog to hillary Cosmocat Jan 2016 #27

How would Rachel know that? If Hillary knows of some "enemies" should she have said their names? I livetohike Jan 2016 #14

Rachel was out for "gotcha", but she went up against a strong opponent - and lost. BlueCaliDem Jan 2016 #31

I suspect there are a lot of Democrats that wouldn't cross the street to greet him, either. eom 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #42

I suspect there are a lot as well. JonLeibowitz Jan 2016 #55

And, or but, that's not a good thing ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #58

yes, it is a good thing we agree he has plenty of friends on the democratic side JonLeibowitz Jan 2016 #62

LOL ... You're correct I meant to type "WOULDN'T" ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #74

One's reputation in Washington follows him or her everywhere Samantha Jan 2016 #95

Just FYI should he become the nominee that will change really quickly. Agschmid Jan 2016 #16

Don't think as much Marty McGraw Jan 2016 #28

I think he is ready for that Samantha Jan 2016 #100

Elections typically aren't. It's unfortunate but it is what it is. Agschmid Jan 2016 #103

Bernie Is The Ideal scottie55 Jan 2016 #19

Yes, when Bernie references he typically gets 25 percent of the Republican votes in Vermont Samantha Jan 2016 #101

Thanks for an uplifting post, Sam. I wish Duval Jan 2016 #30

"He doesn't have an enemy in the world in the Democratic Party"... Segami Jan 2016 #39

Yuck... malokvale77 Jan 2016 #117

Disgusting Enthusiast Jan 2016 #167

Thank you, Duval Samantha Jan 2016 #105

And Hillary has thousands/millions of enemies . in_cog_ni_to Jan 2016 #32

"He doesn't have a single enemy in Washington." The Money Shot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Dont call me Shirley Jan 2016 #33

...In the Democratic Party. The OP did not give an exact quote. Motown_Johnny Jan 2016 #43

Still......The Money Shot!!!!! Dont call me Shirley Jan 2016 #45

But virtually no friends or supporters either. Almost all colleagues Hortensis Jan 2016 #171

Bernies colleagues will get on the Bernie endorsement bandwagon. Dont call me Shirley Jan 2016 #175

Many will back the eventual winner, yes, whoever it is. Hortensis Jan 2016 #188

HRC on the ropes... and she knows it... modestybl Jan 2016 #44

He doesn't have many FRIENDS, either. MADem Jan 2016 #47

Oh, I didn't realize this was pre-school recess. JonLeibowitz Jan 2016 #57

It's not. That's probably why you didn't realize it. MADem Jan 2016 #76

Based on the OP, hoe can you tell? Beacool Jan 2016 #84

Super Delegates can change their mind at the last minute Samantha Jan 2016 #106

You hold on to that hope. nt MADem Jan 2016 #113

No, it's not. Grantcart and others here had a running count of super delegates last go around stevenleser Jan 2016 #168

"As evidenced by his super delegate list." malokvale77 Jan 2016 #119

That's just not an accurate comparison. Obama had nearly seventy super delegates at this point in MADem Jan 2016 #122

History is a funny thing. malokvale77 Jan 2016 #126

You don't understand how the convention works? MADem Jan 2016 #135

Because I'm too stupid, right. nt malokvale77 Jan 2016 #136

I responded to you politely. I even gave you links so you could a) Educate yourself, and MADem Jan 2016 #138

My experience with you has been... malokvale77 Jan 2016 #141

In what way was I rude to you? I took pains to explain every detail to you so you would not be MADem Jan 2016 #142

"left in a muddle" malokvale77 Jan 2016 #145

You are DETERMINED to take offense. MADem Jan 2016 #146

I take no offense for myself. malokvale77 Jan 2016 #147

What does that even mean? MADem Jan 2016 #148

What? malokvale77 Jan 2016 #149

"You're" the one who needs to "let it go." MADem Jan 2016 #152

You've found the formula. nt DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2016 #177

You stir the pot. nt MADem Jan 2016 #181

If in fact Clinton loses the primaries and is nominated by super delegates that would be a Warren Stupidity Jan 2016 #170

+1 121xGigawatts Jan 2016 #172

But she won't 'lose the primaries.' No need to worry. nt MADem Jan 2016 #173

So your stuff about super delegates was Warren Stupidity Jan 2016 #174

So, do I have to explain the way the conventions work? MADem Jan 2016 #180

But as you said that will never happen. And yet there you were 'splaining us how Warren Stupidity Jan 2016 #187

Oh, now you're just getting all nitpicky. MADem Jan 2016 #193

Good post! fbc Jan 2016 #49

Simple compliments on a thread here are like a pot of gold! Samantha Jan 2016 #108

Bernie Smith? Mr smith in Washington?! Nt Lucky Luciano Jan 2016 #52

Kickin' with gusto! Faux pas Jan 2016 #54

I suspect what was probably going through her head was... MoonchildCA Jan 2016 #56

Hillary really doesn't get it! raindaddy Jan 2016 #60

Absolutely Correct. INdemo Jan 2016 #82

Yes raindaddy... malokvale77 Jan 2016 #124

He has no enemies just like Obama didn't have any before he became the nominee. Beacool Jan 2016 #64

It is much more sophisticated voting population out there now Samantha Jan 2016 #109

You mean the electorate that has Trump as the GOP front runner now?! No, they aren't... uponit7771 Jan 2016 #162

The practice of ageism is a very unattractive thing -- it is a discrimination Samantha Jan 2016 #120

Yes, yes and yes. malokvale77 Jan 2016 #128

Even that's not a fair comparison stevenleser Jan 2016 #169

Clinton's lies indicate he's someone to be taken very seriously. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2016 #179

Clinton has a chance. Bernie has no chance of anthing other than handing stevenleser Jan 2016 #184

Clinton's lies indicate he's someone to be taken very seriously. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2016 #185

Plonk stevenleser Jan 2016 #186

The implication is what, with no enemies, Bernie will have smooth sailing in the general election? Justice Jan 2016 #67

That is not at all what the implication in my thread is Samantha Jan 2016 #114

Bill and Hillary Clinton have 'enemies list' of those who supported Obama in 2008 INdemo Jan 2016 #77

Do you believe every RW talking point? Beacool Jan 2016 #79

There is also a list with pictures even. INdemo Jan 2016 #83

I knew about that list but have never read it Samantha Jan 2016 #123

If you don't have a single enemy in Washington DC... anigbrowl Jan 2016 #92

I am not at all sure your comparison is applicable here, but I do have to ask Samantha Jan 2016 #125

+++DING DING DING+++ I don't think that comment helped Sanders the way this thread is being uponit7771 Jan 2016 #163

I would be astonished if some of the childish asshole teaparty newcomers dont dislike randys1 Jan 2016 #102

Truthfully... malokvale77 Jan 2016 #130

That is pretty true, malokvale77 Samantha Jan 2016 #133

Perfect... malokvale77 Jan 2016 #137

I love dogs as well, malokvale, cats, most animals really Samantha Jan 2016 #157

If Bernie wins Iowa and New Hampshire... Mike Nelson Jan 2016 #118

We're past the sharpening phase. The GOP has an entire plan of attack ready if stevenleser Jan 2016 #203

Nor does Bernie have any Fellow Senator Endorsements lobodons Jan 2016 #132

I believe you know as well as I that that is political and not personal Samantha Jan 2016 #144

Given the fact that DC has digressed into corrupt cesspool that's a badge of honor raindaddy Jan 2016 #156

Hillary supporters are already spinning this to be a negative Kalidurga Jan 2016 #158

If Bernie does not fight hard for what he wants Samantha Jan 2016 #160

This doesn't have to be spun, you don't have GOP enemies in Washington then you're persona non uponit7771 Jan 2016 #164

Bernie is evolved. Bernie is a true "Mensch." JDPriestly Jan 2016 #159

How is that supposed to be a good thing knowing the GOP these days? I don't think that helped him... uponit7771 Jan 2016 #161

I am not sure exactly what you are saying Samantha Jan 2016 #165

Surely some clarification is in order. nt slipslidingaway Jan 2016 #166

Sanders authenticity is what propells him. Nothing can alter that truth. ViseGrip Jan 2016 #176

Honesty and integrity. If only corporate investors could buy it. raouldukelives Jan 2016 #178

Hear, hear!!! Stellar Jan 2016 #182

Thanks for posting this article Samantha Jan 2016 #190