2016 Postmortem

Dr Hobbitstein

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Mon Jan 18, 2016, 09:34 AM

Jan 2016

I'm going to make a frivolous claim, and NOT back it up with any sources. The onus is on the person making the claim, not the one asking for proof.

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I am sick to death of the idea that Democratic women must support Clinton [View all] fleur-de-lisa Jan 2016 OP

Support the candidate you want. Cali_Democrat Jan 2016 #1

You seem to be bothered that a woman is publicly fleur-de-lisa Jan 2016 #15

I seem bothered because I told you to support the candidate you want? nt Cali_Democrat Jan 2016 #18

'Holding a gun to my head'? fleur-de-lisa Jan 2016 #26

It is a figure of speech. Stop looking for a fight. hrmjustin Jan 2016 #29

Not looking for a fight. fleur-de-lisa Jan 2016 #39

That is fine but nobody is telling you that you have to vote for her. hrmjustin Jan 2016 #42

Obviously you use the Internet. fleur-de-lisa Jan 2016 #49

Try being a Hillary supporter here. hrmjustin Jan 2016 #56

Okay, but she doesn't support me fleur-de-lisa Jan 2016 #59

I'm not here to change your mind. hrmjustin Jan 2016 #64

Agreed. fleur-de-lisa Jan 2016 #65

Justin, you are one of the most eloquent. Squinch Jan 2016 #76

Thank you. hrmjustin Jan 2016 #81

Back at you! Squinch Jan 2016 #82

I am. Glad it did not stick. hrmjustin Jan 2016 #101

FIXED DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #130

Yes! But post it to him. I agree with you. And kindest. Squinch Jan 2016 #132

Excellent! People Who Think For Themselves... Leaders Not Followers! CorporatistNation Jan 2016 #186

HAve to agree with you there. People need to lighten up. 7962 Jan 2016 #205

You know that if you reach too far it's just silly, right? Squinch Jan 2016 #34

What is silly about my request? fleur-de-lisa Jan 2016 #41

You are trying to create a fight where there is no fight. That is silly. No one here is telling Squinch Jan 2016 #48

Why do you take offense fleur-de-lisa Jan 2016 #52

Why do you assume I am taking offense when I am simply pointing out a fact? Squinch Jan 2016 #54

"You reach too far it's just silly". fleur-de-lisa Jan 2016 #63

See posts 1,2,4,29,42,48. Why do you keep asking the same question when so many have answered it Squinch Jan 2016 #67

I stated an opinion. Why is it silly? fleur-de-lisa Jan 2016 #70

Why do you feel like you have to keep asking the same question when it has been answered? Squinch Jan 2016 #74

The question hasn't been answered. fleur-de-lisa Jan 2016 #75

See post 67. Why do you feel like people are not answering you, even though they are? Squinch Jan 2016 #77

Calling my opinion silly fleur-de-lisa Jan 2016 #83

You didn't give your opinion. You said that people were telling you you have to vote for Hillary. Squinch Jan 2016 #86

I took 'great offense'? fleur-de-lisa Jan 2016 #90

There you go again: who has told you that you are not entitled to your opinion? Squinch Jan 2016 #96

I will not do your research. fleur-de-lisa Jan 2016 #99

I don't see anyone telling you that you aren't entitled to your opinion. Why do you feel Squinch Jan 2016 #104

I can do this all day. fleur-de-lisa Jan 2016 #105

I did look. There are none. Why do you suppose you think there are? Squinch Jan 2016 #109

NO ! fleur-de-lisa Jan 2016 #113

No, there aren't any posts telling you that you can't state your opinion? Because I agree with that. Squinch Jan 2016 #115

Thanks for the repeated kicks! fleur-de-lisa Jan 2016 #120

You're very welcomed! It's good to get it out there that no one is saying that women have to vote Squinch Jan 2016 #121

#122 (I think). fleur-de-lisa Jan 2016 #122

Again, you're welcomed! Any luck finding those posts? Because being sick to death of them and Squinch Jan 2016 #123

And 91 recs! fleur-de-lisa Jan 2016 #131

Good for you! And those posts? Because they ought to be really easy to find. Squinch Jan 2016 #133

Now 92 recs! fleur-de-lisa Jan 2016 #135

Wow, you're so POPULAR! I guess that's what is important to you. But I still don't see those posts! Squinch Jan 2016 #137

Hey Squinch, fleur-de-lisa Jan 2016 #141

OK. See if you can find those posts while you are at it! Squinch Jan 2016 #142

My dear Squinchy . . . fleur-de-lisa Jan 2016 #150

+1 darkangel218 Jan 2016 #155

Well. I would think it would be easy, given that there are so many of them. But I haven't seen Squinch Jan 2016 #156

Squinchy, Squinchy, Squinchy . . . fleur-de-lisa Jan 2016 #157

And there you go again! Where did you tell me where I would find people telling you that Squinch Jan 2016 #158

112 recs and counting ! ! ! fleur-de-lisa Jan 2016 #159

Wow! That REALLY matters! You must be so proud. Does it take away the sting of the Squinch Jan 2016 #160

And 160 replies! fleur-de-lisa Jan 2016 #161

Again, you're welcome! Glad I could help. Because it seems important to you! Squinch Jan 2016 #162

Oh, Squinchy, I think I love you! fleur-de-lisa Jan 2016 #163

Well, but you say a lot of things that you don't back up, so I won't depend on that. Squinch Jan 2016 #164

Now I know I love you! fleur-de-lisa Jan 2016 #165

Oh, I wish I could continue! But I have things to do, and it has become dull talking to Squinch Jan 2016 #166

Kisses and kisses and kisses! fleur-de-lisa Jan 2016 #167

Don't go ! ! ! fleur-de-lisa Jan 2016 #168

Please come back ! Missing you and your insights ! fleur-de-lisa Jan 2016 #169

AKA Dr Hobbitstein Jan 2016 #197

The exchange itself is proof kristopher Jan 2016 #210

LAWD! Yes. I thought grownups knew they underthematrix Jan 2016 #111

I'm sick to death of people pretending that a woman is being pressured to vote an any direction Sheepshank Jan 2016 #2

HRC seems to view them as a key part of her base JonLeibowitz Jan 2016 #6

Women are a key part of her base, murielm99 Jan 2016 #19

"Whining"? fleur-de-lisa Jan 2016 #30

FWIW Men get accused of whining on DU too. Just sayin' emulatorloo Jan 2016 #31

Some of the most annoying whiners on DU are men. kath Jan 2016 #206

You didn't state the reasons you don't support Hillary. You said you were sick to death of people Squinch Jan 2016 #53

No, that is not a better way to put it. fleur-de-lisa Jan 2016 #69

But your OP is about you being sick of people telling you that you have to vote for Hillary, though Squinch Jan 2016 #73

So because you say it doesn't exist fleur-de-lisa Jan 2016 #78

I did ask below that you show two posts where you were told that you have to vote for Hillary Squinch Jan 2016 #80

Do your own search. fleur-de-lisa Jan 2016 #84

I don't need to do a search. I know they don't exist. If you want to prove me wrong, you need to Squinch Jan 2016 #87

Your reasoning is flawed. fleur-de-lisa Jan 2016 #92

Then by all means prove me wrong by producing the posts. Squinch Jan 2016 #97

It is only considered to be whining murielm99 Jan 2016 #58

'Whining'? You really used that word? fleur-de-lisa Jan 2016 #103

Are you implying that, since I am a woman fleur-de-lisa Jan 2016 #7

I think you are whining to attempt to substantiate made up shit Sheepshank Jan 2016 #179

Please elaborate on the 'made up shit'. fleur-de-lisa Jan 2016 #180

Your op is a complete fabrication. It's a mere wish or hope to aid the Bernie cause Sheepshank Jan 2016 #183

Please read posts 17, 60 and 61. BeanMusical Jan 2016 #189

The woman has a spine. I noticed it. Very presumptuous of you to think you needed to sabrina 1 Jan 2016 #8

...while you attempt to lecture me...pretty rich. nt Sheepshank Jan 2016 #177

Oh, puh-leeeze! chervilant Jan 2016 #114

No one has made snide comments to a Bernie supporter because they are a woman..no one Sheepshank Jan 2016 #184

Yeah, right... chervilant Jan 2016 #196

Vote for who ever you want! leftofcool Jan 2016 #3

I certainly will. fleur-de-lisa Jan 2016 #10

Your poutrage is showing. leftofcool Jan 2016 #71

Excellent response fleur-de-lisa Jan 2016 #85

this is a Democratic board Skittles Jan 2016 #190

No one has made such a claim. More sufrommich Jan 2016 #4

How is my opinion 'manufactured outrage'? fleur-de-lisa Jan 2016 #16

Because... MrWendel Jan 2016 #140

My OP was perfectly clear. fleur-de-lisa Jan 2016 #154

So can we call it a "strawwoman"? nt Bleacher Creature Jan 2016 #139

Please read posts 17, 60, 61 BeanMusical Jan 2016 #188

Same here. I don't know what female voters they are polling (and I live in a swing state). n/t Skwmom Jan 2016 #5

I don�t know a solitary woman who is voting for Hillary dorkzilla Jan 2016 #33

It's your vote. Use it anyway you want. cheapdate Jan 2016 #9

Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2016 #11

And you can speak for me. Fawke Em Jan 2016 #12

Who told you that ?? .... let's go kick their ass!!!! JoePhilly Jan 2016 #13

I have to assume you are a man since you use fleur-de-lisa Jan 2016 #20

It's a dumb meme. JoePhilly Jan 2016 #32

Yes, I agree fleur-de-lisa Jan 2016 #44

The only thing dumber is believing that meme ... JoePhilly Jan 2016 #46

Who is upset? fleur-de-lisa Jan 2016 #57

Hillary made life much worse for women... bvar22 Jan 2016 #14

Well that's too bad Gman Jan 2016 #17

lol Green Forest Jan 2016 #22

Nope, Bernie has a stronger record voting for issues that matter to women. fleur-de-lisa Jan 2016 #23

So why do you hate women Gman Jan 2016 #60

How in the world did you come to the conclusion that I hate women? fleur-de-lisa Jan 2016 #88

I suppose the word is... Dr. Strange Jan 2016 #178

Silliest response ever..... peacebird Jan 2016 #28

Post removed Post removed Jan 2016 #61

How is that working against women? How is it "almost like supporting the war on women"? cui bono Jan 2016 #173

Amen, sister! Same here in NY. My state rep is for Bernie, too. He detests the Clintons. Green Forest Jan 2016 #21

I know only one woman who supports HRC MissDeeds Jan 2016 #24

So do I, but I�m waiting for Senator Warren or Zephyr Teachout!!! dorkzilla Jan 2016 #37

Yeah, that's something that's bothered me for a while. draa Jan 2016 #51

I agree completely MissDeeds Jan 2016 #108

Same here--only one of my friends (female) supports HRC, chervilant Jan 2016 #143

As long as you support a real Democratic... FarPoint Jan 2016 #25

Why do you allow the Wall St. fucks to continue to steal from you? Agschmid Jan 2016 #27

In a way, I am bound to put money into a 401k. fleur-de-lisa Jan 2016 #35

Yup you could. Agschmid Jan 2016 #40

I have reallocated. fleur-de-lisa Jan 2016 #47

What allocation mix do you have? Agschmid Jan 2016 #50

If you change jobs that is an event which would allow rolling a 401(k) into a tIRA JonLeibowitz Jan 2016 #45

Show me two posts that say that Democratic women must support Clinton. Squinch Jan 2016 #36

Sick to death - of the idea... Blanks Jan 2016 #38

Look at the thread! You're being graciously permitted to vote for who you want. Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #43

What lists? nt Cali_Democrat Jan 2016 #102

right. Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #107

left Cali_Democrat Jan 2016 #117

Up. Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #125

I think everyone made it clear they're speaking for themselves RandySF Jan 2016 #55

I stand with you, fleur-de-lisa, and with Bernie. Karma13612 Jan 2016 #62

This old lady supports Hillary this time around dem in texas Jan 2016 #66

My heart, my brain, my pocketbook fleur-de-lisa Jan 2016 #98

Excellent. I have a 840high Jan 2016 #185

A year ago, it seems to me that the Clinton campaign rolled out with, not issues, but djean111 Jan 2016 #68

Her people seem to have figured that "vote for me because I'm Hillary Clinton" would be enough. Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #72

Exactly. n/t djean111 Jan 2016 #79

No one in my family supports her either! zentrum Jan 2016 #89

I understand the reasoning behind it but crim son Jan 2016 #91

Then don't vote for her. Why the drama? Beacool Jan 2016 #93

This seems to be a hard concept for some. Squinch Jan 2016 #100

No one is being forced to vote for anyone. Beacool Jan 2016 #110

I'm with you. It seems odd to me to be bemoaning something that isn't happening. I'm trying to Squinch Jan 2016 #118

Based on the responses above and the lack of any evidence I am guessing this OP was started only seaglass Jan 2016 #194

I will, and I don't see any drama. fleur-de-lisa Jan 2016 #116

No, of course you don't see any drama. It's like in a theatre, only the audience Tanuki Jan 2016 #138

I post an opinion, and a Hillary supporter fleur-de-lisa Jan 2016 #147

bout as insane PatrynXX Jan 2016 #94

ditto, ditto, I could have written this myself. 62-year-old radical feminist. No Loyalty to HRC. joanbarnes Jan 2016 #95

I get this when I call to ask who people will be voting for... MrMickeysMom Jan 2016 #106

It's Bernie all the way... martalcd Jan 2016 #112

Nobody is saying they must. Codeine Jan 2016 #119

You should see my Facebook page! fleur-de-lisa Jan 2016 #127

Then go complain on Facebook - geez they're your connections, maybe you need a better group seaglass Jan 2016 #195

I am with you on this. SheilaT Jan 2016 #124

I'd love to have a female president abelenkpe Jan 2016 #126

Amen! fleur-de-lisa Jan 2016 #134

I am surrounded by Democratic women, State reps, US reps and local Gov and party and NONE of..... Tikki Jan 2016 #128

K & R !!! WillyT Jan 2016 #129

If Bernie does not win the nomination..... zwyziec Jan 2016 #136

What is up with this not voting question? Kalidurga Jan 2016 #146

I'm not sure where you're reading that tammywammy Jan 2016 #144

I think the OP was pretty clear. fleur-de-lisa Jan 2016 #152

Where in the OP does the poster site an example of someone(s) telling her to vote for a woman... Tikki Jan 2016 #200

You seem to mistake polling data for Buzz cook Jan 2016 #145

Nope. fleur-de-lisa Jan 2016 #148

No Buzz cook Jan 2016 #174

Thanks for your riveting contribution to the discussion. fleur-de-lisa Jan 2016 #175

I'm a woman and when I look at Hillary I see pure political CharlotteVale Jan 2016 #149

Exactly! Great points! fleur-de-lisa Jan 2016 #151

Singing my song get the red out Jan 2016 #153

feminist not sexist fierywoman Jan 2016 #170

Well said, thank you. nt Zorra Jan 2016 #171

K & R!!! Thespian2 Jan 2016 #172

Not many I know do loyalsister Jan 2016 #176

That is offensive and wrong. wildeyed Jan 2016 #181

You can't be a feminist Lorien Jan 2016 #182

You have the right to support the candidate you think is best Jack Rabbit Jan 2016 #187

Careful, the Hillbots will swarm-alert you for statements like that... you could be banned n/t Still In Wisconsin Jan 2016 #191

'I am sick to death of the idea that Democratic women must support Clinton' CobaltBlue Jan 2016 #192

Sheesh, and please don't BlueMTexpat Jan 2016 #193

I second this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am DEFINITELY NOT FOR HILIARY onecent Jan 2016 #198

This message was self-deleted by its author yuiyoshida Jan 2016 #199

Hillary voted to send other women's children to Iraq. K&R nt Live and Learn Jan 2016 #201

Thank you fleur-de-lisa!!!! Faux pas Jan 2016 #202

K&R jwirr Jan 2016 #203

You're from the South, so you're instantly disqualified from having an opinion! 7962 Jan 2016 #204

Thank you so much for bringing this up. LS_Editor Jan 2016 #207

+1 glinda Jan 2016 #208

That nust be why so many women support Hillary, Progressive dog Jan 2016 #209