2016 Postmortem

libdem4life

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26. I'm glad you have a fortunate insurance plan. But, see, many don't and have no access.

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 04:51 PM

Jan 2016

It sounds more like I've got mine...to heck with them. I'm on Medicare...I fully misunderstand your last statement.

Democrats usually care about the masses...the little people...the people without stellar healthcare plans who may be fortunate enough to work for a company that pays in or had the funds to afford the kind of insurance you describe. And you and your husband may be the exception.

It flies in the face of most of my experience...mine and others. So there you have it and I am happy for you.

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Large employers prove Bernie is correct on healthcare [View all] antigop Jan 2016 OP

I think most do it because they can save money by not meeting the requirements of the ACA, etc. Hoyt Jan 2016 #1

bzzzzt...wrong answer. They self-insured LONG before the ACA. nt antigop Jan 2016 #2

And they bypassed state and federal insurance regulations. Hoyt Jan 2016 #3

They self-insure because IT'S CHEAPER. Thanks for the kick. nt antigop Jan 2016 #4

Yeah, they can leave out coverage for autism, etc. Hoyt Jan 2016 #5

They self-insure because IT'S CHEAPER than paying an ins co for underwriting. nt antigop Jan 2016 #6

Yeah it's cheaper if you don't have to cover some services and can Hoyt Jan 2016 #10

"59 percent of private sector workers with health coverage were in self-insured plans in 2011." antigop Jan 2016 #11

and thanks for the kick! nt antigop Jan 2016 #12

it's cheaper because they save on underwriting. nt antigop Jan 2016 #13

So transfering the underwriting risk to the government is going to help? Hoyt Jan 2016 #33

I first got health insurance in 1971 paid by Republic Steel Corporation. Union negotiated benefit. Fuddnik Jan 2016 #53

Health insurance existed before and after the ACA. Skwmom Jan 2016 #8

That is one persistent right wingy voice you have there Trajan Jan 2016 #27

And I'm sure you think Clinton, Krugman, Ted Kennedy (RIP), etc., are all right wingers. Hoyt Jan 2016 #39

You are wrong. They like to spend more money. Skwmom Jan 2016 #7

with the money they save on healthcare, they can pay CEOs more and buyback stock! nt antigop Jan 2016 #9

Seems the point was lost here...the information I took away is that once you remove the paper libdem4life Jan 2016 #14

" complicate, obfuscate, calculate" -- it all goes into underwriting. nt antigop Jan 2016 #15

They may be the worst of all...failed to mention those intrenched fixtures..that get paid very well. libdem4life Jan 2016 #19

and by self-funding, they don't pay insurance companies, except for billing and administration. antigop Jan 2016 #18

I get the argument. leftofcool Jan 2016 #20

I'm glad you have a fortunate insurance plan. But, see, many don't and have no access. libdem4life Jan 2016 #26

"I've got mine" is the Libertarian way. elias49 Jan 2016 #30

One caveat...when it comes to social programs, Rs want them only when they personally need it. libdem4life Jan 2016 #43

I have Kaiser and Medicare and love it. JDPriestly Jan 2016 #31

Kaiser Permanente is a for profit organization. I had them for a number of years in Northern Calif libdem4life Jan 2016 #49

Thanks. Isn't Kaiser doctor owned? It isn't investor owned, is it? JDPriestly Jan 2016 #51

It is definitely not doctor owned. I have no idea who owns it,but don't think it's a 401c3 libdem4life Jan 2016 #54

Well, bully for you! We pay over one-third of our gross income for premiums, Turn CO Blue Jan 2016 #50

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #16

you're welcome, Uncle Joe. nt antigop Jan 2016 #17

Our health insurance is self funded with the City of Omaha Omaha Steve Jan 2016 #21

thanks, OS! nt antigop Jan 2016 #22

The larger the pool the cheaper the rates.... Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #23

Everybody in the pool! nt antigop Jan 2016 #24

In my last job my employer was a large company SheilaT Jan 2016 #25

"Plans like that at similar costs should be available to everyone. " +1000 nt antigop Jan 2016 #28

K&R. JDPriestly Jan 2016 #29

thanks, JD. nt antigop Jan 2016 #32

I believe you are right. SheilaT Jan 2016 #35

Don't tell the empty pantsuit... Still In Wisconsin Jan 2016 #34

gotta keep the money flowing to those insurance company CEOs. nt antigop Jan 2016 #36

Exactly. You can usually tell people's true character by the company they keep. Still In Wisconsin Jan 2016 #37

Hehe. SammyWinstonJack Jan 2016 #44

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they self-funded a LONG time ago...they are not just doing this "now'. nt antigop Jan 2016 #40

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well, I would suggest you read it. Thanks for the kick! nt antigop Jan 2016 #47

"59 percent of private sector workers with health coverage were in self-insured plans in 2011." antigop Jan 2016 #41

and thanks for the kick! nt antigop Jan 2016 #42

And lets not forget.......................just how twisted things are .... turbinetree Jan 2016 #45

I know I've hit the nail on the head when...nt antigop Jan 2016 #48

One of my brothers madokie Jan 2016 #52