2016 Postmortem

bkkyosemite

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82. I was for HR 676 because it also encluded

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Mon Jan 18, 2016, 07:14 PM

Jan 2016

dentistry and other things. I wanted Universal Healthcare.......

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Who else wanted single-payer universal healthcare over the ACA? [View all] Avalux Jan 2016 OP

I do.... daleanime Jan 2016 #1

Bernie won't give up on 29 Million uninsured Americans. Go Bernie!!! nt 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #2

thanks, Bern enid602 Jan 2016 #128

Care to offer any type of proof? Change has come Jan 2016 #133

plan enid602 Jan 2016 #135

Where is this coming from? Link? passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #192

Which is why Bernie changed his single-payer plan to ONE Federal plan, 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #145

S. 1782 enid602 Jan 2016 #149

So you really don't know what his plan is. n/t passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #193

bill enid602 Jan 2016 #198

the bill from 2014, didn't you say? passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #199

K&R azmom Jan 2016 #3

I did! cui bono Jan 2016 #4

Thank you! Avalux Jan 2016 #10

me tk2kewl Jan 2016 #5

Count me in! Even WITH insurance, medial care is too pricey for me. arcane1 Jan 2016 #6

Yep. You've highlighted what's wrong with for profit healthcare. Avalux Jan 2016 #8

Ha...sorry this made me laugh. I know it's not funny. Not at all. passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #30

Stories, similar to yours, are all too common. Enthusiast Jan 2016 #73

Gap policy homegirl Jan 2016 #171

I say "good" with you. 840high Jan 2016 #117

Health INSURANCE IS NOT HEALTH CARE!!!!!! weknowvino2 Jan 2016 #127

True, but... Rider3 Jan 2016 #175

Oh, sure you can passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #195

Thing is, they SHOULD be confused...or rather fused LiberalLovinLug Jan 2016 #182

I had a gg grandmother and a ggg grandmother who were Canadian. dgibby Jan 2016 #191

After changing my plan from 2015 to a different plan for 2016 kacekwl Jan 2016 #141

If everyone has single payer, of course they will except it. passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #196

$3,300.00 .....you got off cheap kacekwl Jan 2016 #142

If you pay *something* on it every month it wont go to collections. Elmergantry Jan 2016 #162

With my bill, it went to a special medical collection group passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #197

must be a state law thing Elmergantry Jan 2016 #200

That was years ago, and it's all paid off now passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #201

im the same way Elmergantry Jan 2016 #202

I don't even own a credit card. passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #205

you aint shittn Elmergantry Jan 2016 #206

I know the feeling passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #207

Why should Hillary want to change anything? She and the rest of the 1%ers are doing great. Still In Wisconsin Jan 2016 #7

+1000! Plucketeer Jan 2016 #9

I thought it was sold to progressives as... TCJ70 Jan 2016 #11

Precisely. The ACA is not good enough, and we can do better. n/t Avalux Jan 2016 #13

Isn't that the truth............................... turbinetree Jan 2016 #20

I wanted a public option Armstead Jan 2016 #12

Obviously the insurance industry did not want us to see how it flies. Enthusiast Jan 2016 #75

I did! hopeforchange2008 Jan 2016 #14

Not For Profit Healthcare Is The Only Path Forward cantbeserious Jan 2016 #15

Yes it is. We MUST change the current system. n/t Avalux Jan 2016 #19

Try Kaiser and other not-for-profit plans. You won't save much, if anything. Hoyt Jan 2016 #28

Blue Cross - Blue Shield Is Significantly Lower In Cost cantbeserious Jan 2016 #100

Not for profit doesn't automatically mean protection for the consumer. Cassiopeia Jan 2016 #143

Truthfully, if they run a good quality health system, I don't care if they make really good income Hoyt Jan 2016 #153

+10,000 alittlelark Jan 2016 #138

what doed that mean? Elmergantry Jan 2016 #176

I did. SheilaT Jan 2016 #16

Me too, SheilaT. Enthusiast Jan 2016 #77

She didn't say this... one_voice Jan 2016 #17

Building on a poor foundation is not a good idea zeemike Jan 2016 #32

Yeah.. one_voice Jan 2016 #40

Well it covered my life threatening illness just fine. zeemike Jan 2016 #58

Well said, zeemike! Enthusiast Jan 2016 #80

That is exactly the path for Bernie to get it through. JimDandy Jan 2016 #120

Yes, well said. This is what needs to happen, and Bernie is the only one who would Nay Jan 2016 #169

You know what is not covered in the UK? Kentonio Jan 2016 #147

Please make sure Sanders goes around SC saying Obamacare is a poor foundation and that uponit7771 Jan 2016 #123

You can build on it all you want. zeemike Jan 2016 #179

First thing I noticed was that lie as well. JoePhilly Jan 2016 #60

Thank you for an honest post. I really hate that BS supporters twist everything. laureloak Jan 2016 #66

Hillary thinks ACA is fine as is because of teh Donations she has received from the industries Ferd Berfel Jan 2016 #18

Yes. But I also live in the real world. bluestateguy Jan 2016 #21

I did stage left Jan 2016 #22

Hillary has taken too much cash for speeches to healthcare companies opposing single payer! ViseGrip Jan 2016 #23

I do! nt R. P. McMurphy Jan 2016 #24

Me. Javaman Jan 2016 #25

Stop LYING about Clinton's position on the ACA. She has proposals to go further. KittyWampus Jan 2016 #26

Hillary's proposals to "go further" are band aids. Avalux Jan 2016 #35

Nearly a third of said person's income if they are supported by SS. Ed Suspicious Jan 2016 #38

And, Ed, that is outrageous travesty. Enthusiast Jan 2016 #85

I didn't hear her plans last night, I heard her scare people saying Bernie wanted to scrap the ACA Fast Walker 52 Jan 2016 #42

Care to expound? She's not going to touch one Insurance Executive's job or pay grade. Not one. libdem4life Jan 2016 #61

Clinton does nothing but lie. Odin2005 Jan 2016 #87

About EVERYTHING sammythecat Jan 2016 #118

With what?.... paleotn Jan 2016 #97

wouldn't that be 'tearing it up'? navarth Jan 2016 #187

I've spent the past 4 months trying to get insurance after moving to another state Chathamization Jan 2016 #27

I do. My sister's prosthetic limb costs 45,000$ every time she has to get a new one roguevalley Jan 2016 #29

Me. Blue_In_AK Jan 2016 #31

Me. nt Ilsa Jan 2016 #33

Virtually everyone at DU did, as I recall. elleng Jan 2016 #34

You're right, can't ignore that it would be really difficult. Avalux Jan 2016 #37

I did, do, and will. Ed Suspicious Jan 2016 #36

I did. NorthCarolina Jan 2016 #39

he totally sold us out on the public option Fast Walker 52 Jan 2016 #43

I did back then. Delmette Jan 2016 #41

I no longer want to live under corporate rule, as if I ever Dustlawyer Jan 2016 #44

That's the crux of the problem - corporate rule corrodes our lives. Avalux Jan 2016 #57

I am with you, Avalux! Enthusiast Jan 2016 #89

Super gigantic plus one a whole bunch! Enthusiast Jan 2016 #88

I remember being pissed when the Public Option was tossed aside at the very beginning. Roland99 Jan 2016 #45

Me too. Enthusiast Jan 2016 #90

We were not even given a seat at the table. FlatBaroque Jan 2016 #124

I did, and LWolf Jan 2016 #46

It's the only choice for a rational, civilized society. sarge43 Jan 2016 #47

Well said, sarge43! Enthusiast Jan 2016 #91

Thank you, Enthsiast. n/t sarge43 Jan 2016 #107

" ...Hillary thinks that the ACA is just fine as it is..." 40RatRod Jan 2016 #48

She may put bandaids on it, but she's not going to change it. n/t Avalux Jan 2016 #51

She wants incremental change. In the meantime we are in a crisis. Enthusiast Jan 2016 #94

Then by all means Enthusiast,... 40RatRod Jan 2016 #122

You'll never get anywhere if you don't have a strong advocate Art_from_Ark Jan 2016 #144

How could you believe this, unless you totally bought into insurance industry talking points? Enthusiast Jan 2016 #158

Thank you, Enthusiast. The REAL world, as opposed to US Fantasy Bootstrap World, has Nay Jan 2016 #177

Yes! We do not have to accept the status quo. Not when everyone else has better. Enthusiast Jan 2016 #183

I was... DUbeornot2be Jan 2016 #49

Me Fuddnik Jan 2016 #50

There's still millions not covered even with the ACA Rosa Luxemburg Jan 2016 #52

I remember 2010 Kall Jan 2016 #53

The insuror's ineptitude . . . MrModerate Jan 2016 #54

not only single payer UglyGreed Jan 2016 #55

I hope we can have single payer soon so we can help people like you. Enthusiast Jan 2016 #99

Thank you Enthusiast. I know there are many others UglyGreed Jan 2016 #101

Sorry you're going through this, UG senz Jan 2016 #115

. UglyGreed Jan 2016 #173

Present and accounted for swilton Jan 2016 #56

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #59

yep. Phlem Jan 2016 #62

What is truly repulsive to me is that many Warren Stupidity Jan 2016 #63

Pretty much everyone...excitement was short-lived. libdem4life Jan 2016 #64

Most of the damn country...and that hasn't changed. n/t. Ken Burch Jan 2016 #65

I did and do mahina Jan 2016 #67

Who else realizes that it had no chance in hell of passing? Orrex Jan 2016 #68

Nothing will EVER change with that kind of thinking. Avalux Jan 2016 #70

How many miracles do you think Sanders has coming to him? Orrex Jan 2016 #83

I understand your position, Orrex, but IMO we must elect someone who Nay Jan 2016 #181

Me. SoapBox Jan 2016 #69

Any health care system that leaves profit motives intact is not a good solution. Enthusiast Jan 2016 #71

What Hillary actually said was Gman Jan 2016 #72

Of course.... Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #74

I do n/t Got it Jan 2016 #76

Me. CharlotteVale Jan 2016 #78

Yes, medical care is a basic human right. TIME TO PANIC Jan 2016 #79

I agree, it's not good enough StarzGuy Jan 2016 #81

I was for HR 676 because it also encluded bkkyosemite Jan 2016 #82

I did, but I am a meaningless moonbat. Feeling the Bern Jan 2016 #84

Hillary and the rest of the Dem Establishment is 100% OWNED by the Healthcare Industry. Odin2005 Jan 2016 #86

I do. That's why Bernie Sanders gets my donations and my vote. Auggie Jan 2016 #92

I want single payer salib Jan 2016 #93

Another fundamentally dishonest opening post. Universal Health Care is the goal NOT SINGLE PAYER. KittyWampus Jan 2016 #95

How do you move the ACA towards Universal Health Care? Curmudgeoness Jan 2016 #132

I did. DinahMoeHum Jan 2016 #96

Me (nt) bigwillq Jan 2016 #98

I did and I still do. n /t Jackilope Jan 2016 #102

I heard Ms Clinton say we should evolve the ACA... JohnnyRingo Jan 2016 #103

Me. I was hoping to lower the age for medicare. muntrv Jan 2016 #104

The notion that healthcare is a human right will be as easy to get the US to accept librechik Jan 2016 #105

I fought for it and so did my Congressman. Scruffy1 Jan 2016 #106

Yes, and always did shanti Jan 2016 #108

absolutely! hopemountain Jan 2016 #109

Me. Did then and still do. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #110

Here... WillyT Jan 2016 #111

I want Americans to have what advanced industrialized nations should have. senz Jan 2016 #112

When every act must be attuned to moneymaking, we get bastardized 'health plans' like Nay Jan 2016 #172

^^ THIS ^^ Knowledgable, thoughtful, thought-provoking. senz Jan 2016 #188

It wasn't even close for me. 99Forever Jan 2016 #113

Because it was the only thing that Republicans would vote for PatrynXX Jan 2016 #114

Very happy to have aged into Medicare HockeyMom Jan 2016 #116

Thank you for saying that. Most of us on Medicare True Blue American Jan 2016 #154

The insurance vampires skim $400 billion off the top every year. ErikJ Jan 2016 #119

This One Guy Used To Support It Before They Got To Him srobert Jan 2016 #121

Me blackspade Jan 2016 #125

I did!!! n/t RKP5637 Jan 2016 #126

Most Americans do! Ferd Berfel Jan 2016 #129

I wanted Kennedycare, aka Medicare for all. tclambert Jan 2016 #130

I wanted universal health care, Curmudgeoness Jan 2016 #131

I wanted Medicare for All, but would have settled for a strong public option. I got neither. merrily Jan 2016 #134

Here. And I still want it. AllyCat Jan 2016 #136

yup glinda Jan 2016 #137

"...new insurance co. reviews her records and determines what they will and will not cover." Snarkoleptic Jan 2016 #139

I do. draa Jan 2016 #140

All I remember is something about unicorns and something being called "fucking retarded." n/t xocet Jan 2016 #146

Count me in, then and now. Liberty Belle Jan 2016 #148

I remember a local doctors' group deeply split on whether or not to support ACA philly_bob Jan 2016 #150

I was hoping Obama would do it Lunabell Jan 2016 #151

I am beginning to suspect chervilant Jan 2016 #152

K&R n/t jtuck004 Jan 2016 #155

Did someone mention me? :D John Poet Jan 2016 #164

pre-ACA, I expected the age for medicare to be lowered to about 50, apparently the 'for profit'... Sunlei Jan 2016 #156

I have been an advocate of single payer, universal health care for years mnhtnbb Jan 2016 #157

We got the most change Wall St shareholders would allow. raouldukelives Jan 2016 #159

Fighting harder for single payer might have at least gotten us a public option. eridani Jan 2016 #160

My hand is in the air! CanonRay Jan 2016 #161

ACA is/was a gift to insurance companies. Elmergantry Jan 2016 #163

BINGO! AlbertCat Jan 2016 #165

ya.."affordable" for who? Elmergantry Jan 2016 #174

Here! snort Jan 2016 #166

It was part of the parties platform in 2008. liberalnarb Jan 2016 #167

When we stop growing, learning, improving, we're only partly alive. Gregorian Jan 2016 #168

ME, ME, ME, ME! n/t ChiciB1 Jan 2016 #170

If not Single payer" hung my hopes on at least a "public option" annabanana Jan 2016 #178

Me.. ghostsinthemachine Jan 2016 #180

I wanted it, either that or the public option. Stevepol Jan 2016 #184

me. navarth Jan 2016 #185

But..but..what about the poor downtrodden Insurance and Pharmaceutical companies??? K&R Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2016 #186

Count me in! avaistheone1 Jan 2016 #189

I noticed the recs are UglyGreed Jan 2016 #190

I do. kenfrequed Jan 2016 #194

ACA has helped many people, but I want single payer. ZombieHorde Jan 2016 #203

+1 Zorra Jan 2016 #204