2016 Postmortem

Agschmid

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21. I don't doubt that...

Reply to CoffeeCat (Reply #13)

Tue Jan 19, 2016, 01:27 PM

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I was pushed polled last night in Iowa; Hillary sinks lower than whale poo [View all] CoffeeCat Jan 2016 OP

And again... No facts of of any kind. Agschmid Jan 2016 #1

What do you mean, "No facts of any kind"? (nt) CoffeeCat Jan 2016 #2

The 'snark of the day' from Hillarians? Just a wild guess. nt 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #8

Facts ARE facts. I was called last night. (nt) CoffeeCat Jan 2016 #13

I don't doubt that... Agschmid Jan 2016 #21

we get push polls like that all the time rurallib Jan 2016 #240

This message was self-deleted by its author Bubzer Jan 2016 #295

More like its a game of telephone... And we all get a version of the truth. Agschmid Jan 2016 #20

So, you're suggesting that the caller didn't say the things that I reported? (nt) CoffeeCat Jan 2016 #42

You said your self it's not verbatim... Agschmid Jan 2016 #43

Ahh, I hope you do a lot of stretching before reaching so far. artislife Jan 2016 #47

... Agschmid Jan 2016 #53

Don't even. I have read all the replies to this OP. nt artislife Jan 2016 #55

Yes well maybe you should read the OP where the OP says it's not verbatim. Agschmid Jan 2016 #56

I am done slow dancing with you on this subject. nt artislife Jan 2016 #57

That's fine, would you rather samba? Agschmid Jan 2016 #65

Good Riddance... Conch Jan 2016 #133

Someone who obviously never grew up reading Reader's Digest. Paka Jan 2016 #232

So you are saying that other than the one or two sentence questions that might be easy to greiner3 Jan 2016 #68

No I don't. Agschmid Jan 2016 #70

So is anything you read in a newspaper but you accept that as fact. n/t cui bono Jan 2016 #69

No. Agschmid Jan 2016 #72

I didn't say "internet". Twisting everything up again. Yoga anyone? cui bono Jan 2016 #73

Twisting lol... Agschmid Jan 2016 #77

You are twisting in the wind all over this OP. cui bono Jan 2016 #89

Yup... Sure. Agschmid Jan 2016 #91

Not verbatim is not synonymous to incorrect. Paka Jan 2016 #233

Again... That wasn't my point. Agschmid Jan 2016 #270

so even if you report the facts as you lived them you are roguevalley Jan 2016 #82

Nope not what I said... Agschmid Jan 2016 #84

It's not what you said, it's what you're obviously doing. How Bushesque. Fuddnik Jan 2016 #92

Sort of like name calling... Agschmid Jan 2016 #94

Or Clintonian nxylas Jan 2016 #120

Class act, calling me a snake. Fun stuff. Agschmid Jan 2016 #151

But the Bush thing you did? Goblinmonger Jan 2016 #180

Now we are calling me a Bush... Agschmid Jan 2016 #183

EXACTLY. John Poet Jan 2016 #191

Just because something isn't "verbatim" CoffeeCat Jan 2016 #111

Next Rilgin Jan 2016 #192

Chuckle. They try to twist you like a pretzel but you remainded strong. riversedge Jan 2016 #152

I heard I was blowing in the wind... Agschmid Jan 2016 #156

Ah well, it was a gentle breeze then. riversedge Jan 2016 #158

what in the world does remainded mean? Perogie Jan 2016 #209

It's Clintonian Newspeak. BeanMusical Jan 2016 #212

I think Agschmid did a pretty good job of self-pretzeling. Bubzer Jan 2016 #298

Just because it's not verbatim doesn't mean it's a lie. lob1 Jan 2016 #170

I never said the OP was lying... Agschmid Jan 2016 #184

"No facts of any kind" is what you said. That means it is all untrue, all false, you are calling the Bluenorthwest Jan 2016 #269

No saying that there "are no facts of any kind"... Is NOT calling the OP a liar. Agschmid Jan 2016 #271

Since you clearly need to review the basics, here is the definition of the verb 'to lie': Bluenorthwest Jan 2016 #276

Yes and I used "verbatim" so if your point is they have different meanings... YES. Agschmid Jan 2016 #277

You said the OP had no facts of any kind. You need to prove that assertion or drop that smear. Bluenorthwest Jan 2016 #281

This message was self-deleted by its author Bubzer Jan 2016 #299

I got the gist. The call was from Hillary's campaign. The objective was to paint Bernie as bad on FP sabrina 1 Jan 2016 #253

'not verbatim' is one thing, you stated 'No facts of any kind'. You called the OP a liar, and that Bluenorthwest Jan 2016 #268

Nope didn't call the OP a liar, that's just the frame you all came up with to attack. Agschmid Jan 2016 #272

Well you did not call her a liar verbatim but that was the sense of your declaration that the OP had Bluenorthwest Jan 2016 #280

The words do mean what they mean... Agschmid Jan 2016 #282

Then why did you allow yourself language which said otherwise? 'No facts of any kind. Par for the Bluenorthwest Jan 2016 #293

There's the final word, CoffeeCat Plucketeer Jan 2016 #80

Well at least now she knows for next time... Agschmid Jan 2016 #86

to have you on ignore before posting an OP... cui bono Jan 2016 #90

That's fine. Agschmid Jan 2016 #93

You win! eom fleur-de-lisa Jan 2016 #104

Hopefully they got a good prize... Agschmid Jan 2016 #115

Yes! An Hillary Voodoo Doll! BeanMusical Jan 2016 #215

Yeah Plucketeer Jan 2016 #106

Thanks Agschmid. I will have to remember bullsnarfle Jan 2016 #99

Except I didn't call the OP that anywhere... Agschmid Jan 2016 #102

You're being ridiculous CoffeeCat Jan 2016 #142

I didn't hear it. And I haven't once called you a liar, you aren't. Agschmid Jan 2016 #144

You are suggesting that CoffeeCat Jan 2016 #145

No. Agschmid Jan 2016 #146

So transparent aspirant Jan 2016 #162

And very obvious. BeanMusical Jan 2016 #217

And so educational zeemike Jan 2016 #250

+1 BeanMusical Jan 2016 #251

Yup the topic was derailed. Agschmid Jan 2016 #263

And that is clasic too. zeemike Jan 2016 #296

And there's the implied "You didn't mean to say somthing untrue... but you still lied". Bubzer Jan 2016 #300

I was push polled about Elizabeth Edward's cancer (in Iowa during 2008 Dem Caucus campaign) CoffeeCat Jan 2016 #109

Push polls suck, I agree. Agschmid Jan 2016 #112

I'll just say this to you CoffeeCat Jan 2016 #122

Clearly anything not recorded doesn't count... Bubzer Jan 2016 #301

So gullible aspirant Jan 2016 #164

"Isn't that interesting?" Punkingal Jan 2016 #127

Hi Coffeecat, here is a working Politico link JonLeibowitz Jan 2016 #257

Facts can be cites without quotes. Conch Jan 2016 #132

We need to get the telemarketer on the line for his side of the story? Ed Suspicious Jan 2016 #59

No. Agschmid Jan 2016 #66

That's not what you did. You said there were no facts. The OP stated the facts. cui bono Jan 2016 #71

The OP also said that she doesn't have the facts... Agschmid Jan 2016 #76

"...freely admitted in the OP" greiner3 Jan 2016 #103

So untrustworthy aspirant Jan 2016 #166

I await the next adjective... Agschmid Jan 2016 #185

You don't deserve any other adjectives. Bluenorthwest Jan 2016 #274

Yah I'm sure you do... Agschmid Jan 2016 #275

You are the bully here. You are the one who claimed without any supporting evidence that the OP is Bluenorthwest Jan 2016 #283

Yup... Me a bully. You nailed it. Agschmid Jan 2016 #284

Classic fallacy of the excluded middle. Jim Lane Jan 2016 #171

This whole subthread proves my point. Agschmid Jan 2016 #186

I was addressing your actual post, which you now don't defend. Jim Lane Jan 2016 #199

It's not unjustified at all, and again I certainly did not call the OP a liar. Agschmid Jan 2016 #264

There is evidence, whether you like it or not Jim Lane Jan 2016 #266

Your argument is it could be anyone who sent the call. Agschmid Jan 2016 #267

No, I'm not agreeing with your connotation Jim Lane Jan 2016 #297

+1 Bubzer Jan 2016 #303

But you paraphrased, and summarized. Beartracks Jan 2016 #216

You know... for balance! Hehehehe. nt thereismore Jan 2016 #98

What really matters here is REALITY on the ground in Iowa. CoffeeCat Jan 2016 #117

It is offensive. And the call was full of lies. Agschmid Jan 2016 #153

So defensive aspirant Jan 2016 #169

And concerned. BeanMusical Jan 2016 #220

You have a wonderful way with words! Amazing to not believe a story or register its simple meaning. highprincipleswork Jan 2016 #28

I think this is a push post on your push poll. hay rick Jan 2016 #229

He had to rush his response to get the first response slot within 3 minutes. Not easy. nm rhett o rick Jan 2016 #237

Go forbid someone respond first... And within 3 minutes! Agschmid Jan 2016 #273

can you post the phone number from your caller id? Sunlei Jan 2016 #304

what a strange response. m-lekktor Jan 2016 #5

Yep. nt. NCTraveler Jan 2016 #6

What facts were you hoping for? n/t DefenseLawyer Jan 2016 #10

Written proof jeff47 Jan 2016 #17

Your objection goes to the weight of the evidence not its admissibility n/t DefenseLawyer Jan 2016 #18

Man... You beat me to it. Agschmid Jan 2016 #23

*chortle artislife Jan 2016 #50

hee-hee cui bono Jan 2016 #78

Are you kidding? Some wouldn't believe it if there was a video. Punkingal Jan 2016 #130

It could have been one of her superpacs. Bernie doesn't have to worry about that kind of thing JDPriestly Jan 2016 #187

Again I did not once question the fact that the OP got the call, nor the content of the call. Agschmid Jan 2016 #202

I've been push-polled. When you get push-polled, you know the motive behind the call. JDPriestly Jan 2016 #213

But you did. You said 'No facts of any kind'. That means no facts, of any kind. That means no call Bluenorthwest Jan 2016 #286

. Agschmid Jan 2016 #287

That comment makes no sense. The op cali Jan 2016 #22

The OP themselves admits they don't remember parts of the call. Agschmid Jan 2016 #24

No. The op said he/she paraphrased because they don't remember every word verbatim cali Jan 2016 #36

So they don't remember every word verbatim, is different than they don't remember parts of the call? Agschmid Jan 2016 #38

I remember the highlights, which I have written here CoffeeCat Jan 2016 #44

How am I "ripping you up"... You said you were paraphrasing. Agschmid Jan 2016 #45

I guess, OP that the readers of this list don't understand roguevalley Jan 2016 #83

Geeze, you're getting the same push poll tactic used on you that the caller used on Bernie! ebayfool Jan 2016 #154

Stop. Just stop. progressoid Jan 2016 #96

Yes I've gotten them... Agschmid Jan 2016 #100

WHERE ARE YOUR FACTS?? Perogie Jan 2016 #210

So I never said the OP lied about getting the call. Agschmid Jan 2016 #265

So jumpy aspirant Jan 2016 #172

And desperate. BeanMusical Jan 2016 #223

I am willing to bet a very large amount of money that the phrassing the OP used here randys1 Jan 2016 #27

Too late. IMO. Agschmid Jan 2016 #33

Offer a $10,000 reward to the person who can produce the script JimDandy Jan 2016 #194

But it was comedy gold!! artislife Jan 2016 #31

Your are correct it was comedy gold. Agschmid Jan 2016 #40

You are acting like a troll in this thread hueymahl Jan 2016 #140

Not just in this thread. BeanMusical Jan 2016 #225

Yup you caught me... I'm a long term troll. Agschmid Jan 2016 #278

Do you suggest I let people mock me? Agschmid Jan 2016 #279

So comical aspirant Jan 2016 #176

Thank you artislife! CoffeeCat Jan 2016 #221

+100000 Paka Jan 2016 #243

COFFEECAT! YOU MY HERO! :D roguevalley Jan 2016 #81

Thanks for the informative post. I'm sure you related the conversation to a very high degree of A Simple Game Jan 2016 #149

So, a person can't relate their own experience TexasMommaWithAHat Jan 2016 #128

Nope... Agschmid Jan 2016 #150

Like your post? Conch Jan 2016 #129

I didn't say it was a lie, she got the call. Agschmid Jan 2016 #138

I see the problem Conch Jan 2016 #143

my my, look at the big subthread you caught. yodermon Jan 2016 #204

Yah go figure. Agschmid Jan 2016 #241

Do you mean in the push poll? roody Jan 2016 #205

If you're talking about your own post, then I agree. Fantastic Anarchist Jan 2016 #207

Person is telling of their experience. Perogie Jan 2016 #208

May I suggest you read the subthread... Agschmid Jan 2016 #242

Wow a first reply in 3 minutes. But you don't get full credit because you hurried your response. rhett o rick Jan 2016 #236

Rhett your "timed response thing" is pointless. Agschmid Jan 2016 #244

It's more than a coincidence that HRC supporters are often the very first to respond to rhett o rick Jan 2016 #252

Pretty quiet here. n/t JonLeibowitz Jan 2016 #259

Yes because I was asleep... Sorry next time I'll do a better job from Agschmid Jan 2016 #261

They need to have you guys work shifts over there. JonLeibowitz Jan 2016 #302

It's ridiculous that you think anyone who disagrees with you must be paid by the other campaign. Agschmid Jan 2016 #262

You whine.....a lot. nt Logical Jan 2016 #238

How is agreeing with the OP whining? Agschmid Jan 2016 #245

HUH? The poster gave you all the facts of her phone conversation. merrily Jan 2016 #288

Jump on in. Agschmid Jan 2016 #289

LOL - Well done!! I bet that push-poller might reconsider who THEY are voting/caucusing for 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #3

My view was... CoffeeCat Jan 2016 #11

Did your dog come home?! Kentonio Jan 2016 #157

Yes! She is safe! CoffeeCat Jan 2016 #219

Please tell us your dog came home safe and not harmed by the cold! nt tblue37 Jan 2016 #193

Depends who he was caucusing for in the first place nxylas Jan 2016 #136

That would be a delightful backfire Mnpaul Jan 2016 #214

+1 NCTraveler Jan 2016 #4

Great post, CoffeeCat MissDeeds Jan 2016 #7

The ham sandwich thing was not bad, either. (eom) HassleCat Jan 2016 #29

+100. I bust out loud laughing at that part. closeupready Jan 2016 #54

Kick for Creativity. HerbChestnut Jan 2016 #9

I'd wager big money that... 99Forever Jan 2016 #12

And no conspiracy theory that some people won't drum up. n/t JTFrog Jan 2016 #15

Proven liars lie. 99Forever Jan 2016 #34

I'll remember that when reading your posts dsc Jan 2016 #75

Well played. n/t JTFrog Jan 2016 #108

Yeah, conspiracy theories are for the deranged demwing Jan 2016 #181

Or maybe he told his boss Karl Rove "mission accomplished" emulatorloo Jan 2016 #35

Ahahahaahahaahaha most excellent Voice for Peace Jan 2016 #14

Good thing I wasn't drinking tea or water when I read this...... alittlelark Jan 2016 #16

Flocculent Whale poop is essential to life in the oceans! GreatGazoo Jan 2016 #19

Dolphins too? Or just whales? SwampG8r Jan 2016 #61

This is the most useful post in the thread! I've learned something at DU! MADem Jan 2016 #135

Not exactly. BeanMusical Jan 2016 #228

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #25

Another tactic out of Karl Rove's playbook. GoneFishin Jan 2016 #26

Thanks for that report. SheilaT Jan 2016 #30

He found a job..... alittlelark Jan 2016 #74

LOL...I sure wouldn't want you to get mad at me Armstead Jan 2016 #32

You are funny as hell! Loved your responses. emulatorloo Jan 2016 #37

Razor bannister and lemon juice... Funtatlaguy Jan 2016 #39

I can't argue with that! CoffeeCat Jan 2016 #222

Thank you for posting this dragonfly301 Jan 2016 #41

LOL, GREAT replies! polly7 Jan 2016 #46

desperation SandersDem Jan 2016 #48

I suspect that Biden, at his age and after so many tragedies, is inclined not to tblue37 Jan 2016 #196

He also has been given a new mission SandersDem Jan 2016 #198

+1. nt tblue37 Jan 2016 #200

Next thing you know she will pose with a Hayden Fry cutout wearing a seed cap, next to a tractor. Still In Wisconsin Jan 2016 #49

I would pay to see Hillary in denim overalls! CoffeeCat Jan 2016 #224

How could I forget Hayden Fry? He beat our butts for a couple of decades. Still In Wisconsin Jan 2016 #227

Well done! bvf Jan 2016 #51

LOL!! CoffeeCat Jan 2016 #113

whale poop floats. stonecutter357 Jan 2016 #52

"poop" Whale "poop" floats. truebluegreen Jan 2016 #107

thanks. stonecutter357 Jan 2016 #179

Whale-Poop Find May Fetch Man $180,000 SoLeftIAmRight Jan 2016 #249

Partially with you. lark Jan 2016 #58

I was push polled in 2007 too, in Iowa; Caller brought up Elizabeth Edward's cancer. CoffeeCat Jan 2016 #60

Gosh bet you just made the Push Poller switch :) PatrynXX Jan 2016 #62

When I was polled.... Bjornsdotter Jan 2016 #63

I JUST heard Thom Hartmann read the "slid down a razor banister" line!!! cui bono Jan 2016 #64

I KNOW!!! Casandia Jan 2016 #67

When I watched the clip of HRC chervilant Jan 2016 #118

Well done. K&R Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2016 #79

Thom Hartmann just talked about this, CoffeeCat! Duval Jan 2016 #85

Wow, that is crazy! CoffeeCat Jan 2016 #119

Has your dog come home? haikugal Jan 2016 #137

YES! CoffeeCat Jan 2016 #147

Very good news! haikugal Jan 2016 #159

I'm glad you got your doggie back Fumesucker Jan 2016 #182

Awwwww CoffeeCat Jan 2016 #226

Good grief! And yet you were able to access your humor, which is remarkable in itself. Duval Jan 2016 #168

Sure CoffeeCat Jan 2016 #188

Kickin' with gusto! Faux pas Jan 2016 #87

Are you now or have you ever been a bubblehead? hootinholler Jan 2016 #88

How is there such hatred for Hillary Clinton on a Democratic message board? oberliner Jan 2016 #95

People tend to speak freely here... until they get tombstoned, that is. nt thereismore Jan 2016 #101

Maybe because the Clintons built their national reputation using vicious attacks against Democrats? ieoeja Jan 2016 #110

She heaped quite a bit of praise on Obama at the last debate oberliner Jan 2016 #131

The Democratic Party has not only shrunk since the DLC, it has leaned to the right. Duval Jan 2016 #177

Did you see HRC chervilant Jan 2016 #121

"a lying, warmongering personal masseuse for Wall Street psychos." oberliner Jan 2016 #125

Okay. chervilant Jan 2016 #160

I am reporting about a phone call that I receive in Iowa CoffeeCat Jan 2016 #134

Your comments to the person on the phone were vicious attacks on Hillary, no? oberliner Jan 2016 #141

Reporting on a phone call is absolutely not an attack DFW Jan 2016 #211

I for one appreciate this report. Paka Jan 2016 #246

Because most Democrats care more about a person's record than the letter after their name. (nt) jeff47 Jan 2016 #139

How ? musiclawyer Jan 2016 #178

Partly because of push polls as described. tazkcmo Jan 2016 #285

Vat of lemon juice! LOL Right on! nt thereismore Jan 2016 #97

Well at least you lightened up some poor guy's day. progressoid Jan 2016 #105

man, if you can get her backers' hired pollsters laughing that's a bad sign for her MisterP Jan 2016 #114

K&R: You know you made a spot-on post when ... Babel_17 Jan 2016 #116

Lower than whale poop... chervilant Jan 2016 #123

What a dumb poll. You don't even have to know anything about the candidates winter is coming Jan 2016 #124

Stay classy! shenmue Jan 2016 #126

Are sure you weren't talking to a Hillary INdemo Jan 2016 #148

I truly hate to see Dems be so nasty about the candidate that is not their amuse bouche Jan 2016 #155

Great story and exactly how many of us feel. draa Jan 2016 #161

I was LOLing too. blackspade Jan 2016 #163

That's low but they WILL go lower. Remember the voter suppression robocalls from 2008? pa28 Jan 2016 #165

wow i learn something new everyday. nt retrowire Jan 2016 #254

Thanks for this story. I'm all alone and laughing out loud. Vinca Jan 2016 #167

"I would rather be slid down a razor banister into a vat of lemon juice." snagglepuss Jan 2016 #173

HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You For That !!! WillyT Jan 2016 #174

best post of the day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ViseGrip Jan 2016 #175

What an appalling push poll!! JimDandy Jan 2016 #189

I was push-polled last week. historylovr Jan 2016 #190

You are a quick thinker. beemer27 Jan 2016 #195

That is the funniest fucking thing I have read this week! Enthusiast Jan 2016 #197

Same here! Duppers Jan 2016 #234

I can't help from wondering if anyone can veify that the received the same call. olegramps Jan 2016 #201

If the nominee, she can not win the election emsimon33 Jan 2016 #203

CoffeeCat, I really appreciate your Midwestern wit Jack Rabbit Jan 2016 #206

+1!!! Thanks for those laughs Coffee Cat! Much appreciated! RiverLover Jan 2016 #218

Kick and R BeanMusical Jan 2016 #230

Love it. Paka Jan 2016 #231

Coffee Cat you are a scream! Duppers Jan 2016 #235

LOL CoffeeCat, you are a trip! senz Jan 2016 #239

I canvassed with a lady who has sister middle age in Iowa marlakay Jan 2016 #247

If the call went the way you say it did, it would qualify as a push poll. Renew Deal Jan 2016 #248

Thanks for sharing. Betty Karlson Jan 2016 #255

I like you sammythecat Jan 2016 #256

"I would rather be slid down a razor banister into a vat of lemon juice." Autumn Jan 2016 #258

Love your story Proserpina Jan 2016 #260

your caller ID should have the phone number called from, I'd like to search the number. Sunlei Jan 2016 #290

LOL! You seem to have gotten some heads to exploding. merrily Jan 2016 #291

DEFINITELY in the running for Best Thread of the Year Le Taz Hot Jan 2016 #292

Oh goodness...that was too much fun to read. Thanks for that! Bubzer Jan 2016 #294