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jeff47

(26,549 posts)
15. Some may try, but they will fail.
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 02:17 PM
Jan 2016

First, this plan requires Clinton to go along with it. That's not going to happen.

Second, it's too late to get the replacement on many state ballots. Which means the only way they could actually do it is a brokered convention. Which would be massively public, and shred the party. Most of the superdelegates needed to actually pull this off will be on the 2016 ballot too, so shredding the party right before they try to get re-elected requires them to be utter morons or have zero interest in self-preservation.

Third, to even accomplish it via the convention, they need a close primary. If Sanders has enough pledged delegates in the first ballot, he's the nominee no matter what the party leadership wants. Which means Clinton would need something like 30-40% of the primary vote despite giving up.

So to make it happen, Clinton has to give up yet still receive something like 30-40% of the primary vote. Then the party has to decide to destroy itself, and then their substitute can go on to be utterly annihilated in the general election, taking many other Democrats down with them...the same superdelegates who would implement this replacement plan.

It's not going to happen. The only "replacement" scheme that is remotely possible is if Clinton has a medical catastrophe or is indicted.

Whatever. Motown_Johnny Jan 2016 #1
I think they are spinning yarns trying to make up drama rather than reporting it. KittyWampus Jan 2016 #2
Exactly! BlueMTexpat Jan 2016 #24
Plus 1000 JustAnotherGen Jan 2016 #28
Aaaaa...no. peace13 Jan 2016 #3
You kind of answered your own question. 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #4
Fact they are even talking about this shows we are winning Robbins Jan 2016 #5
All they have to do is look at the polls CoffeeCat Jan 2016 #6
Exactly and he will air ALL of their dirty laundry for the world to see. The majority of Congress in_cog_ni_to Jan 2016 #12
you nailed it, coffeecat restorefreedom Jan 2016 #21
Voters have rejected Biden twice already. What? Third time's a charm? He doesn't have a chance in in_cog_ni_to Jan 2016 #7
Aside from the schadenfreude at the thought of the Clintons getting smacked upside the head tularetom Jan 2016 #8
^^^What tularetom said ^^^ kenn3d Jan 2016 #13
It's the usual "too liberal" argument of the "not as bad" wing of the party. Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2016 #9
Isn't it obvious WHO they are fighting for? NorthCarolina Jan 2016 #10
Got my torch and pitchfork all ready! Punkingal Jan 2016 #11
History shows Biden could get the nomination BlueStateLib Jan 2016 #14
Yes, and none of them became president. MoonchildCA Jan 2016 #16
Some may try, but they will fail. jeff47 Jan 2016 #15
Don't want to put my tinfoil hat on, but... MoonchildCA Jan 2016 #18
If we're going there, it's far more effective for the same groups jeff47 Jan 2016 #20
The DNC is already doing what the Republicans mmonk Jan 2016 #17
but , But , Super Delegates bahrbearian Jan 2016 #19
Did Mitchell indicate any study showing there are enough states where Biden could get on the ballot? karynnj Jan 2016 #22
I assume their "reasoning" is that whatever delegates HRC wins would go to Biden. winter is coming Jan 2016 #33
Wow - not just a stinker, but very weird karynnj Jan 2016 #34
Exactly. jwirr Jan 2016 #36
Does the 'establishment' really think he isn't electable Matariki Jan 2016 #23
This silliness has been floated SheilaT Jan 2016 #25
Very bad for D. party behaving as the R. party. Yupy Jan 2016 #26
That would ensure a Bernie victory. ieoeja Jan 2016 #27
Hillary Clinton looks like the Hillary Clinton of 2016 Lordquinton Jan 2016 #32
Or we leave the DNC in droves for a continuous stream of stupid ideas rosesaylavee Jan 2016 #29
The party is and has been despicable with these continuing shenanigans thwarting our democracy ViseGrip Jan 2016 #30
LOL, you are taking something Andrea Mitchell said seriously! FSogol Jan 2016 #31
He's gaining on Clinton precisely because he's electable. n/t lumberjack_jeff Jan 2016 #35
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