2016 Postmortem

snoringvoter

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2. Clinton won't win at the end.

Reply to NYCButterfinger (Original post)

Wed Jan 20, 2016, 02:18 PM

Jan 2016

When the domino effect is already underway.

Two weeks before the primaries, Bernie has exceeded the numbers he needs to win Iowa NH, and is already building on NV, SC and the 11 states on Super Tuesday. Clinton is not prepared.

Clinton is putting all of her marbles on the first four states, and she won't be able to achieve what she is seeking. As a matter of fact, I think after Super Tuesday, if Clinton doesn't have the momentum, her superdelegates will start dropping like flies to back Bernie.

The SD's probably does not want to take forever to get the nomination secured like it did in '08. Remember Michigan and Florida? What a mess.

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I see Hillary winning at the end [View all] NYCButterfinger Jan 2016 OP

and I see Bernie winning at the end, I am 100% certain not wishful thinking. Yupy Jan 2016 #1

Me too, NorthCarolina Jan 2016 #3

LOL Alfresco Jan 2016 #6

Obviously Hillary cannot run on the issues. Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #95

Clinton won't win at the end. snoringvoter Jan 2016 #2

We shall see kenfrequed Jan 2016 #37

I agree KingFlorez Jan 2016 #4

how beyond polls on landlines that don't give the big picture roguevalley Jan 2016 #49

I see myself winning the PowerBall. If HRC isn't careful, it will be the same odds. nt TheBlackAdder Jan 2016 #77

Well, to be fair the FBI is also discussing the email crap...nt jonno99 Jan 2016 #5

Thank you for your concern. [n/t] Maedhros Jan 2016 #7

I think that Hillary is better than any GOP candidate but... votesparks Jan 2016 #8

"Bernie win = high turnout"... malokvale77 Jan 2016 #104

Bernis is doing better in the polls One of the 99 Jan 2016 #9

I don't. darkangel218 Jan 2016 #10

I'm voting for whoever darkangel votes for. draa Jan 2016 #82

"Hillary Clinton, with all her flaws, is the electable choice." demwing Jan 2016 #11

Because they say so. darkangel218 Jan 2016 #12

Name recognition. Orsino Jan 2016 #23

This cuts both ways for the Clintons. libdem4life Jan 2016 #28

I don't think Bernie can win because he keeps hammering income inequality NYCButterfinger Jan 2016 #13

He hammers GOVT corruption and people care a hell of a lot about that. n/t Skwmom Jan 2016 #15

Not been on DU that long it would appear... Have you not been a Democrat that long too?... cascadiance Jan 2016 #36

caring is what makes you a dem and what the hell school did you go to that taught that? roguevalley Jan 2016 #50

I think it's snark. Read it again with that in mind. draa Jan 2016 #86

Well, looking at their Journal maybe not. draa Jan 2016 #88

This message was self-deleted by its author draa Jan 2016 #84

I would hate to live where you do. malokvale77 Jan 2016 #105

I was taught in school not to. Every individual for themself. NYCButterfinger Jan 2016 #106

Sad. nt malokvale77 Jan 2016 #109

One thing I'd bet money on - she will not be President. n/t Skwmom Jan 2016 #14

A thing moderately good is not so good as it ought to be. Thomas Paine Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2016 #16

Paine would not be kind to today's crop of politicians. hobbit709 Jan 2016 #19

He certainly wouldn't. With good reason. Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2016 #20

Hillary's becoming more toxic by the day. Ron Green Jan 2016 #17

If Hillary wins, we will lose. hobbit709 Jan 2016 #18

Worse than that. darkangel218 Jan 2016 #22

What is so great about single payer? NYCButterfinger Jan 2016 #24

I can't believe you just said that! darkangel218 Jan 2016 #25

low info people really get my goat roguevalley Jan 2016 #51

LOL! Visit some of those other countries The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2016 #29

This is one of the most fucked up posts I've ever read here. CONTRIBUTE OR DIE. cherokeeprogressive Jan 2016 #30

Dude, we are the only civilized TM99 Jan 2016 #31

which of those countries have repealed their systems? Warren Stupidity Jan 2016 #32

You've swallowed the lie, hook, line and sinker mikehiggins Jan 2016 #34

Post removed Post removed Jan 2016 #44

I am humane. However, there is something called NYCButterfinger Jan 2016 #46

Why are you not a Republican? n/t ieoeja Jan 2016 #47

selfish, not humane. Sorry, kid, but you aren't humane to think that. roguevalley Jan 2016 #52

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In case you delete... darkangel218 Jan 2016 #73

I am humane. I care about all of you. NYCButterfinger Jan 2016 #75

"NYCButterfinger 75. I am humane. I care about all of you." darkangel218 Jan 2016 #76

I am humane. NYCButterfinger Jan 2016 #83

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Do you think a Republican House would go along with this? NYCButterfinger Jan 2016 #87

BS. This is what you said: darkangel218 Jan 2016 #89

This message was self-deleted by its author NYCButterfinger Jan 2016 #91

In your self deleted message darkangel218 Jan 2016 #93

They have the House until 2022???? SheilaT Jan 2016 #99

Why the hell would I be a Republican? NYCButterfinger Jan 2016 #56

So you are not a Republican because of environmental concerns. ieoeja Jan 2016 #60

I care for the poor, but they must take responsibility too NYCButterfinger Jan 2016 #62

That's what Reagan said when he shut down the VA mental hospitals. ieoeja Jan 2016 #68

You do???? darkangel218 Jan 2016 #90

How can we contact MIRT? darkangel218 Jan 2016 #74

I know you cannot respond in this OP now, but: chervilant Jan 2016 #78

How can we contact MIRT? darkangel218 Jan 2016 #79

I was a MIRT member last session. chervilant Jan 2016 #80

Thank you. darkangel218 Jan 2016 #81

Well, apparently, chervilant Jan 2016 #110

I don't think is that. darkangel218 Jan 2016 #111

Oh, yeah, I didn't chervilant Jan 2016 #112

Thank you for following up darkangel218 Jan 2016 #113

You're welcome! chervilant Jan 2016 #114

You think healthcare is a privilege that has to be earned? redwitch Jan 2016 #55

It's annoying to middle class taxpayers of all scopes NYCButterfinger Jan 2016 #58

Seriously you're a republican. Warren Stupidity Jan 2016 #61

No. That's bull. I am a different type of Democrat NYCButterfinger Jan 2016 #63

That won't cut if you are chronically ill with no health care. redwitch Jan 2016 #64

I believe in the people. Single payer will not go well with NYCButterfinger Jan 2016 #59

You believe in people? redwitch Jan 2016 #66

I love everyone here. NYCButterfinger Jan 2016 #70

Well I definitely don't understand YOU. redwitch Jan 2016 #71

I will always love people. Always. NYCButterfinger Jan 2016 #92

Obviously not darkangel218 Jan 2016 #94

I do, but I was taught in school differently. NYCButterfinger Jan 2016 #96

I am looking forward to the day you SheilaT Jan 2016 #100

That's your opinion. NYCButterfinger Jan 2016 #102

There will come a day PowerToThePeople Jan 2016 #45

Wait, ACA does just that CommonSenseDemocrat Jan 2016 #72

Are there no prisons? demwing Jan 2016 #101

Single payer is not the only road to Universal Health Care. And she's NOT "content" w/ACA KittyWampus Jan 2016 #35

I guess that's settled, then. Orsino Jan 2016 #21

You might want to try a baby ruth :-) bkkyosemite Jan 2016 #26

post #1028 Kalidurga Jan 2016 #27

He doesn't need much outside of the big states Trajan Jan 2016 #33

I have just the opposiste view. I think what you wrote here did apply, but that was Cal33 Jan 2016 #38

"Bernie is not electable." The lie repeated so often people begin to believe it. n/t Binkie The Clown Jan 2016 #39

Sanders CAN win if he is the nominee. JI7 Jan 2016 #40

Agreed. But for one point .... Lil Missy Jan 2016 #41

I hope so. Metric System Jan 2016 #42

I'm not stressing. Beacool Jan 2016 #43

we will find out soon, thank goodness. roguevalley Jan 2016 #53

No, we won't. Beacool Jan 2016 #97

I use to think that way, but now I think Bernie has a better chance. B Calm Jan 2016 #48

thank you Carnac. nt wendylaroux Jan 2016 #54

Too tight of a race Stimoyo Jan 2016 #65

You may be right, Kelvin Mace Jan 2016 #67

If she's the nominee, it won't be a slam dunk by any stretch of the imagination. Vinca Jan 2016 #69

at the end of Bernie's second term Enrique Jan 2016 #98

i agree with you. MariaThinks Jan 2016 #103

Glad you're clairvoyant...I'll wait and vote for Bernie. EndElectoral Jan 2016 #107

LOL. A lot of people saw Clinton win in the end Mike__M Jan 2016 #108

She could win the nomination but she won't win the GE. n/t Autumn Jan 2016 #115