2016 Postmortem

Gothmog

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2. Clinton Camp: GOP Attacks On Hillary Show They'd Rather Face Bernie In Fall

Wed Jan 20, 2016, 04:37 PM

Jan 2016

I agree that Karl Rove wants to run against the weakest possible candidate who he thinks is Sanders http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-karl-rove-attack

The Hillary Clinton campaign on Tuesday said that recent attacks from conservatives show that Republicans are hoping Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) will win the Democratic nomination because they believe he would be easier to beat in the general election.

In a Tuesday evening statement, the Clinton campaign's communications director, Jennifer Palmieri, mentioned an ad from the Rove-aligned super PAC American Crossroads, which accused Clinton of being in Wall Street's pocket. Palmieri said the ad suggests that Republicans want to face Sanders in the general election.

"While Senator Sanders tries to make a case on electability based on meaningless polls, Republicans and their super PACs have made clear the candidate they’re actually afraid to face. The Sanders argument falls apart when the GOP spokesman is trying to help him and the Republicans run ads trying to stop Hillary Clinton in the primary," she said in the statement.

Clearly Karl Rove wants the weaker candidate to be the nominee

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Is it clear Karl Rove wants Bernie to run against? Why? [View all] randys1 Jan 2016 OP

they just want to prolong the primary to 2pooped2pop Jan 2016 #1

+10 - hadn't thought of that angle. Makes sense. n/t 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #5

"prolong" the primary? You mean, by rescheduling when the states vote? Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #40

Sure there is. Kentonio Jan 2016 #44

Ah, the old "a vigrorously contested primary season weakens our general election candidate" line. Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #48

Like most things in life, there are two (or many more) sides to it. Kentonio Jan 2016 #50

So she should drop out now and endorse Bernie Sanders. Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #51

+1. eom. 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #53

Bernie has demonstrated no where near the fund raising capacity ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #52

Yes, well, if we all agreed that it was Hillary's turn, she'd have won it by now. Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #54

yes, Hillary could be indicted and 2pooped2pop Jan 2016 #63

Clinton Camp: GOP Attacks On Hillary Show They'd Rather Face Bernie In Fall Gothmog Jan 2016 #2

This is what I saw randys1 Jan 2016 #3

It's Because He Can Scream SOCIALIST! SDJay Jan 2016 #4

KarL is a horrid, disgusting puke fuck of a person, but he knows what he is doing, usually randys1 Jan 2016 #7

Yeah, I see your point... SDJay Jan 2016 #11

Randy, have you seen the ad? If not here it is: emulatorloo Jan 2016 #6

Saw it, and it makes you wonder. Clearly Rove is running against Hillary now, he sees randys1 Jan 2016 #17

I've seen a few people argue that it is a double-mindfuck. Argument goes like this: emulatorloo Jan 2016 #28

You mean Karl Rove the asshole who made a complete fool of himself on election night 2012? tularetom Jan 2016 #8

"And who really gives a flying fuck if they call him a socialist, he calls himself a socialist." SDJay Jan 2016 #19

No it is not clear. He wants an establishment Democrat. n/t Skwmom Jan 2016 #9

Sanders will also be underfunded... brooklynite Jan 2016 #10

I have a long way to go before I'm maxed out to Bernie. Punkingal Jan 2016 #13

Well here's an idea Armstead Jan 2016 #18

I'd be happy to...but do you want us sullying your revolutionary campaign? brooklynite Jan 2016 #23

Your support would be welcomed and encouraged Armstead Jan 2016 #33

Maybe because Rove is a fucking idiot whose lost his touch? Armstead Jan 2016 #12

Wow, a Rove ad that HELPS Clinton's false electability argument. Skwmom Jan 2016 #14

I don't understand how the "Hillary's Bull Market" ad supports Clinton's electability meme. emulatorloo Jan 2016 #21

Because Rove is a fan of professional wrestling. Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #15

That makes no sense. You are saying Rove wants to run against Bernie because he knows Bernie randys1 Jan 2016 #24

No, my post was clear, Rove believes he can help Hillary in the primary Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #29

Polls showing head to head are meaningless at this stage according to ALL pollsters, pundits. randys1 Jan 2016 #30

They do mean something, it's better to be ahead than behind. Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #39

People are now going to vote for Clinton because Rove hates her? OilemFirchen Jan 2016 #41

The people voting now are in the Democratic Primary not the general election, how much popularity Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #42

The Democratic Primary voters will be engaged by partisan hatred? OilemFirchen Jan 2016 #43

It's not just partisan hatred, it becomes guilt by association, even though Rove Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #45

Alright. Confession time. OilemFirchen Jan 2016 #47

Well good luck to you. Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #49

That is a stretch. eom. 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #55

And also, because if it's Hillary against about any Republican, corporate America wins regardess... cascadiance Jan 2016 #31

No, he is doing the opposite. He is attacking Hillary so he can run against Bernie randys1 Jan 2016 #35

He's smiling when he convinces people like you that those are his intentions... cascadiance Jan 2016 #37

I think what he's saying Dretownblues Jan 2016 #34

My thought kenfrequed Jan 2016 #16

So far almost every Bernie supporter on this thread has decided Karl Rove is an randys1 Jan 2016 #20

I don't believe Rove is an idiot, he's a cynical manipulator, see post# 15. n/t Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #22

I responded, and your observation makes no sense at all to me. randys1 Jan 2016 #25

Here's a thought...he's not as smart by half than he and others make him out to be. libdem4life Jan 2016 #26

Yeah, I get it, almost every single Bernie supporter here other than me, or darn near randys1 Jan 2016 #27

I just remember when he had Megyn Kelly trot back to the back office because he was libdem4life Jan 2016 #32

So this vile and disgusting criminal failed somehow to steal his 3rd election. randys1 Jan 2016 #36

We all know why Republicans want Bernie as the nominee. They think he's easier to beat, and they're Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2016 #38

It's pretty simple. Kentonio Jan 2016 #46

Obviously Hillary cannot run on the issues. Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #56

Bully Trump already has some very dismissive and damaging attacks lined up ecstatic Jan 2016 #57

Because Rove is afraid of Trump? Ferd Berfel Jan 2016 #58

Believe ANYTHING Karl Rove says at your own risk. Kip Humphrey Jan 2016 #59

pubs keep trying to call him a communist oldandhappy Jan 2016 #60

Are you asking us if YOU have any thoughts? I have no clue if so. artislife Jan 2016 #61

Now there is a productive response. randys1 Jan 2016 #64

This really is not a productive thread. nt artislife Jan 2016 #65

This has long been Rove's mindset DFW Jan 2016 #62

The media is noticing that the GOP and Rove are supporting Sanders Gothmog Jan 2016 #66

Anti-Sanders attack ad isn’t quite what it seems to be Gothmog Jan 2016 #67

He'll be easy for the well-funded GOP smear machine to defeat. NurseJackie Jan 2016 #68