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quaker bill

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2. This is where Howard Dean and BHO came from
Sat Sep 22, 2012, 06:53 AM
Sep 2012

Need I remind folks that John Kerry was the "electable one" in 2004? Hillary was supposed to be the "electable one" in 2008.

Gore, Kerry, and then Hillary ran the "no margin for error" campaign. You take all the understood blue states, and you win. The problem always was that if you miss only one of them, you lose. Hillary deployed her primary campaign to take all the big blue states, and ignored the red and pink states. This had become standard practice for the DLC candidates. The BHO side knew that if he took all the red and pink states, and one or two of the blue states late in the contest, he had the nomination.

Dean argued against "electability", Obama made it walk.

The republicans will end up doing much the same, but starting now, they will not have it together for 2016, because the money power likely does not believe in it. Dean brought money and power to reform and expanding the base as DNC chair. While Rahm and some others did not like it much, it powered wins in 2006 and 2008, and the neglect of it powered a loss in 2010.

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Wow. Sounds like Raz may be throwing in the towel. DCBob Sep 2012 #1
I was surprised by the Ras PA poll TroyD Sep 2012 #3
Me too. DCBob Sep 2012 #4
This is where Howard Dean and BHO came from quaker bill Sep 2012 #2
Interesting... DCBob Sep 2012 #5
That was Reagan's main strength TroyD Sep 2012 #7
Yes indeed. DCBob Sep 2012 #12
Bingo. Drunken Irishman Sep 2012 #24
Scott Rasmussen is dreaming of a "21st century Ronald Reagan" Kolesar Sep 2012 #6
Yes Cosmocat Sep 2012 #8
All cons have a pipe dream of a reincarnated Reagan to lead them to victory. DCBob Sep 2012 #13
what Rasmussen means is that far-right, tea party type Republicans will dominate ..I think he is Douglas Carpenter Sep 2012 #9
stick a fork in romney. make that two forks. buzzman Sep 2012 #10
It is all pure and unmitigated BULLSHIT Cosmocat Sep 2012 #11
He pretty much guarantees that the 2016 GOP primaries will be 2012 redux magical thyme Sep 2012 #14
Reagan Would Have The Same Problem As Rmoney DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2012 #15
Yep, the demographic shifts are largely responsible for making many states fujiyama Sep 2012 #20
I Have As Much Chance As Becoming Governor Of CA As Ronald Reagan Would Have If He Was Alive DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2012 #21
This has been my wet dream for a while now smorkingapple Sep 2012 #16
It's Amazing How Few Analysts Realize How Demographic Trends Are Driving This Election DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2012 #17
Republicanism is a fossil trying to exist in the 21st century... and-justice-for-all Sep 2012 #18
So Cain/Bachmann 2016? Please Teabaggers, make it so! nt sufrommich Sep 2012 #19
Post removed Post removed Sep 2012 #22
enjoy your stay. WI_DEM Sep 2012 #23
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