2016 Postmortem

SDJay

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11. Yeah, I see your point...

Wed Jan 20, 2016, 04:48 PM

Jan 2016

but Hot Karl has been wrong more than he's been right recently.

I really think they're in a position much like 2008. They were all geared up to unleash their BS machine at HRC and had been waiting for that for a long time. Then along comes this mysterious, fast-rising black guy and they had no idea what to do. They were so spun around that they wound up putting a moron on the ticket.

Fast forward to now. They have 8 more years of pure garbage in the tank to unleash on HRC and along comes this old "socialist" and I don't think they have any idea what to do. They're already spun around to the point where they're starting to somewhat begrudgingly accept that they're going to put a moron at the top of the ticket.

I don't see a lot of wisdom in this either way, but obviously I could be very wrong.

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Is it clear Karl Rove wants Bernie to run against? Why? [View all] randys1 Jan 2016 OP

they just want to prolong the primary to 2pooped2pop Jan 2016 #1

+10 - hadn't thought of that angle. Makes sense. n/t 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #5

"prolong" the primary? You mean, by rescheduling when the states vote? Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #40

Sure there is. Kentonio Jan 2016 #44

Ah, the old "a vigrorously contested primary season weakens our general election candidate" line. Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #48

Like most things in life, there are two (or many more) sides to it. Kentonio Jan 2016 #50

So she should drop out now and endorse Bernie Sanders. Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #51

+1. eom. 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #53

Bernie has demonstrated no where near the fund raising capacity ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #52

Yes, well, if we all agreed that it was Hillary's turn, she'd have won it by now. Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #54

yes, Hillary could be indicted and 2pooped2pop Jan 2016 #63

Clinton Camp: GOP Attacks On Hillary Show They'd Rather Face Bernie In Fall Gothmog Jan 2016 #2

This is what I saw randys1 Jan 2016 #3

It's Because He Can Scream SOCIALIST! SDJay Jan 2016 #4

KarL is a horrid, disgusting puke fuck of a person, but he knows what he is doing, usually randys1 Jan 2016 #7

Yeah, I see your point... SDJay Jan 2016 #11

Randy, have you seen the ad? If not here it is: emulatorloo Jan 2016 #6

Saw it, and it makes you wonder. Clearly Rove is running against Hillary now, he sees randys1 Jan 2016 #17

I've seen a few people argue that it is a double-mindfuck. Argument goes like this: emulatorloo Jan 2016 #28

You mean Karl Rove the asshole who made a complete fool of himself on election night 2012? tularetom Jan 2016 #8

"And who really gives a flying fuck if they call him a socialist, he calls himself a socialist." SDJay Jan 2016 #19

No it is not clear. He wants an establishment Democrat. n/t Skwmom Jan 2016 #9

Sanders will also be underfunded... brooklynite Jan 2016 #10

I have a long way to go before I'm maxed out to Bernie. Punkingal Jan 2016 #13

Well here's an idea Armstead Jan 2016 #18

I'd be happy to...but do you want us sullying your revolutionary campaign? brooklynite Jan 2016 #23

Your support would be welcomed and encouraged Armstead Jan 2016 #33

Maybe because Rove is a fucking idiot whose lost his touch? Armstead Jan 2016 #12

Wow, a Rove ad that HELPS Clinton's false electability argument. Skwmom Jan 2016 #14

I don't understand how the "Hillary's Bull Market" ad supports Clinton's electability meme. emulatorloo Jan 2016 #21

Because Rove is a fan of professional wrestling. Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #15

That makes no sense. You are saying Rove wants to run against Bernie because he knows Bernie randys1 Jan 2016 #24

No, my post was clear, Rove believes he can help Hillary in the primary Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #29

Polls showing head to head are meaningless at this stage according to ALL pollsters, pundits. randys1 Jan 2016 #30

They do mean something, it's better to be ahead than behind. Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #39

People are now going to vote for Clinton because Rove hates her? OilemFirchen Jan 2016 #41

The people voting now are in the Democratic Primary not the general election, how much popularity Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #42

The Democratic Primary voters will be engaged by partisan hatred? OilemFirchen Jan 2016 #43

It's not just partisan hatred, it becomes guilt by association, even though Rove Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #45

Alright. Confession time. OilemFirchen Jan 2016 #47

Well good luck to you. Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #49

That is a stretch. eom. 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #55

And also, because if it's Hillary against about any Republican, corporate America wins regardess... cascadiance Jan 2016 #31

No, he is doing the opposite. He is attacking Hillary so he can run against Bernie randys1 Jan 2016 #35

He's smiling when he convinces people like you that those are his intentions... cascadiance Jan 2016 #37

I think what he's saying Dretownblues Jan 2016 #34

My thought kenfrequed Jan 2016 #16

So far almost every Bernie supporter on this thread has decided Karl Rove is an randys1 Jan 2016 #20

I don't believe Rove is an idiot, he's a cynical manipulator, see post# 15. n/t Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #22

I responded, and your observation makes no sense at all to me. randys1 Jan 2016 #25

Here's a thought...he's not as smart by half than he and others make him out to be. libdem4life Jan 2016 #26

Yeah, I get it, almost every single Bernie supporter here other than me, or darn near randys1 Jan 2016 #27

I just remember when he had Megyn Kelly trot back to the back office because he was libdem4life Jan 2016 #32

So this vile and disgusting criminal failed somehow to steal his 3rd election. randys1 Jan 2016 #36

We all know why Republicans want Bernie as the nominee. They think he's easier to beat, and they're Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2016 #38

It's pretty simple. Kentonio Jan 2016 #46

Obviously Hillary cannot run on the issues. Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #56

Bully Trump already has some very dismissive and damaging attacks lined up ecstatic Jan 2016 #57

Because Rove is afraid of Trump? Ferd Berfel Jan 2016 #58

Believe ANYTHING Karl Rove says at your own risk. Kip Humphrey Jan 2016 #59

pubs keep trying to call him a communist oldandhappy Jan 2016 #60

Are you asking us if YOU have any thoughts? I have no clue if so. artislife Jan 2016 #61

Now there is a productive response. randys1 Jan 2016 #64

This really is not a productive thread. nt artislife Jan 2016 #65

This has long been Rove's mindset DFW Jan 2016 #62

The media is noticing that the GOP and Rove are supporting Sanders Gothmog Jan 2016 #66

Anti-Sanders attack ad isn’t quite what it seems to be Gothmog Jan 2016 #67

He'll be easy for the well-funded GOP smear machine to defeat. NurseJackie Jan 2016 #68