2016 Postmortem

ChiciB1

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38. I Have To Admit... They've Been In The Huddle Now

Wed Jan 20, 2016, 05:58 PM

Jan 2016

for some time and while some "stuff" is inventive and slings a lot of mud, I wonder how much will stick in the end. I'm amazed that so early they've been triangulating everything he says, almost everything he's done into a miasma of negativity.

And yes, you're correct in saying it's callous, cruel, deceitful and malicious and I too can't respect anyone who's willing to run a campaign like this. Is she selling her soul? I KNOW that sounds terrible, but my feelings about her now are at the lowest level ever. I KNOW what I have to do if she's the nominee, but I may have to have to use my left hand to steady my right hand to mark the X on the ballot.

Problem is, I know people who won't fall on their sword and vote for her. Explaining to them what's at stake doesn't seem to matter. One said that if The people in power are willing to swing 3 bats over Bernie's head just to win... WE DESERVE WHAT WE GET!

I'm a Democrat, always have been one and I don't like any of what I'm seeing. Should Hillary win and become POTUS I'm sure I'll have to check out. How ALL this money has screwed our country and will do more damage should she win, I will find it hard to support this stuff anymore!

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Aren't you tired of the character assassination against Bernie? [View all] last1standing Jan 2016 OP

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Jan 2016 #1

No I am tied of the fraudulent promises Sander keeps putting out: lewebley3 Jan 2016 #239

How do you hear about this positions... scscholar Jan 2016 #241

I have heard Sanders on Hartman every Friday for Almost 3 years or more lewebley3 Jan 2016 #248

It's tiring, but I accept that this is what conservatives do when threatened n/t arcane1 Jan 2016 #2

K&R fleur-de-lisa Jan 2016 #3

Its a contact sport.. MrWendel Jan 2016 #4

So lying and character assassination are fine with you? last1standing Jan 2016 #6

I doubt that... MrWendel Jan 2016 #9

Wow! So much semi-coherent bullshit in one short post. How did you manage that? last1standing Jan 2016 #12

Speaking of which... MrWendel Jan 2016 #14

No, I always knew Hillary was what she is. I'm just sickened that she has followers who don't care. last1standing Jan 2016 #17

I hope... MrWendel Jan 2016 #18

He has no worries. He has no enemies in DC. hillary on the otherhand... Bubzer Jan 2016 #37

Yeah.... MrWendel Jan 2016 #45

Run away....Run away. bvar22 Jan 2016 #250

That was my point... MrWendel Jan 2016 #251

Strawman. bvar22 Jan 2016 #253

Call someone a Strawman... MrWendel Jan 2016 #255

I don't believe you know what a Strawman is. bvar22 Jan 2016 #256

"I can... MrWendel Jan 2016 #261

You know well enough that nobody has equated Bernie Sanders with MLK. Maedhros Jan 2016 #13

Oh noes.... MrWendel Jan 2016 #15

didn't you have a different avatar earlier today? navarth Jan 2016 #26

Nah... MrWendel Jan 2016 #27

uh huh. navarth Jan 2016 #30

If... MrWendel Jan 2016 #33

true dat navarth Jan 2016 #34

Who... MrWendel Jan 2016 #177

pfft. navarth Jan 2016 #181

Make trouble? murielm99 Jan 2016 #184

Thanks! navarth Jan 2016 #221

Do yourself a favor... malokvale77 Jan 2016 #153

Think I'll join you... save myself some time by avoiding reading that tripe. Bubzer Jan 2016 #42

Me too. Enthusiast Jan 2016 #133

+1 (nuff said) chknltl Jan 2016 #179

Fabrication, distortion, and Strawmen seem to be SOP with this one. bvar22 Jan 2016 #264

Still with that lie I see. TM99 Jan 2016 #28

Martin Luther King Was a Democratic Socialist MrWendel Jan 2016 #36

Which is why chervilant Jan 2016 #46

My support ... MrWendel Jan 2016 #47

Such a defensive reaction! chervilant Jan 2016 #52

Nah... MrWendel Jan 2016 #54

You have my deepest sympathy. n/t chervilant Jan 2016 #55

I'm good. MrWendel Jan 2016 #60

Your support of Hillary Clinton is well placed. pangaia Jan 2016 #76

Thanks. MrWendel Jan 2016 #85

No, I guess not. pangaia Jan 2016 #96

or truth or honor virtualobserver Jan 2016 #107

If you want complete truth or honor... MrWendel Jan 2016 #151

We like kittens. Enthusiast Jan 2016 #134

Pffff.... MrWendel Jan 2016 #152

Dogs are Fascist . TheFarS1de Jan 2016 #163

Heeeey!!!!!!! MrWendel Jan 2016 #176

He may well have been. TM99 Jan 2016 #68

Bernie's values are more like MLK than Hillary, that's for damn sure. TIME TO PANIC Jan 2016 #43

How about... MrWendel Jan 2016 #51

So no one should ever use MLK's legacy to fight for the disenfranchised? TIME TO PANIC Jan 2016 #58

No... MrWendel Jan 2016 #59

I agree with you 100%. Who did that? TIME TO PANIC Jan 2016 #61

Bernie Sanders Supporters Invoke Martin Luther King Jr. MrWendel Jan 2016 #62

Who said he was the 2nd coming? TIME TO PANIC Jan 2016 #70

Three black supporters Jenny_92808 Jan 2016 #102

" Why are you holding Bernie responsible?" greiner3 Jan 2016 #139

That's an interesting take on things for a person actually using King's image as avatar while Bluenorthwest Jan 2016 #90

Wait! MrWendel Jan 2016 #98

And yet, you use Dr. King's picture as an avatar Art_from_Ark Jan 2016 #192

But Rosa Parks is okay d_legendary1 Jan 2016 #233

In my view you have absolutely no understanding of just who Bernie Sanders is pangaia Jan 2016 #74

So does most of the Democratic party... John Poet Jan 2016 #95

NO i am not tired of it and no one is lying about bernie. trueblue2007 Jan 2016 #130

So trueblue, you believe Hillary when she says that Bernie is trying to Jenny_92808 Jan 2016 #157

i would rather KEEP WHAT WE HAVE and build on the ACA. trueblue2007 Jan 2016 #188

I'm going to bookmark your post to check on later Bradical79 Jan 2016 #200

Universal change over will occur for those age 60 and above and the chronically ill first. DhhD Jan 2016 #210

In other words- you got yours (medicare), screw everyone else notadmblnd Jan 2016 #238

DON'T YOU DARE CALL ME RIGHTWING. I have been a STAUCH DEMOCRAT FOR LONGER THAN YOU'VE BEEN ALIVE trueblue2007 Jan 2016 #259

Hate? What hate? notadmblnd Jan 2016 #263

Turning on Medicare for all would be Karma13612 Jan 2016 #266

Now that you have your socialized medicine (Medicare) Karma13612 Jan 2016 #265

In this race it's Sen Sanders with the truth fighting the power and lies of Big Money. rhett o rick Jan 2016 #111

So If Someone Is Secretary Of State, They Should Not Expect To Deal With Classified Info CorporatistNation Jan 2016 #127

And that's a stupid cliche. sammythecat Jan 2016 #214

many people are sick of it restorefreedom Jan 2016 #5

i hope you'll be able to cope maxsolomon Jan 2016 #75

i expect things to get much dirtier. restorefreedom Jan 2016 #97

I am not listening and neither is my daughter who up until jwirr Jan 2016 #7

At this very moment as I'm watching, MSNBC is pushing the idea that he's unelectable. drm604 Jan 2016 #8

Desperate people do desperate things. hobbit709 Jan 2016 #10

Yes, there are little cracks appearing. pangaia Jan 2016 #78

Actually, chervilant Jan 2016 #213

They started the day he announced and I was sick of it months ago. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #11

Ever since the Chelsea performance it's become increasingly desperate. Vinca Jan 2016 #16

I've been tired of the character assassination against Hillary pnwmom Jan 2016 #19

Me too Nonhlanhla Jan 2016 #21

Me three. murielm99 Jan 2016 #185

I have never seen such hate as that displayed by the Bernistas. AlbertCat Jan 2016 #220

You are one of the worst examples. murielm99 Jan 2016 #252

You are one of the worst examples. AlbertCat Jan 2016 #257

no she didn't - she is enamoured of her hopemountain Jan 2016 #25

And you are surprised about the attacks on Bernie? If you can't stand the heat pnwmom Jan 2016 #35

bernie can take it. it's hillary hopemountain Jan 2016 #48

You're doing a spectacular job of proving PNWMom's point maxsolomon Jan 2016 #73

If "all this vituperation" is turning you into a Clinton supporter tularetom Jan 2016 #106

I'm a DEMOCRATIC PARTY supporter maxsolomon Jan 2016 #116

yup. hopemountain Jan 2016 #254

+1 Metric System Jan 2016 #49

HUH? pangaia Jan 2016 #79

When she became First Lady she was heavily criticized for saying that pnwmom Jan 2016 #230

Yes, I knew about the cookies thing, when it happened. pangaia Jan 2016 #242

And so that's how long Hillary has been living with character assassination. pnwmom Jan 2016 #243

Yes, I know that. pangaia Jan 2016 #245

By proxy? You don't? pnwmom Jan 2016 #258

DU is DU. pangaia Jan 2016 #260

she didn't come to the White House to bake cookies. AlbertCat Jan 2016 #223

especially the "the GOP will run X ads against him" feint MisterP Jan 2016 #20

they won't? maxsolomon Jan 2016 #80

OOOH SO MUCH DIFFERENT THAN THEY’LL DO WITH HRC OR EACH OTHER dorkzilla Jan 2016 #87

YES! Thank you! Well said. nt retrowire Jan 2016 #22

Bernie and the 'hammer and sickle" left-of-center2012 Jan 2016 #23

Well, if every supporter of Clinton is defacto part of her campaign... randome Jan 2016 #32

good point dlwickham Jan 2016 #186

she didn't do that, and neither did the campaign - she said THEY will do that maxsolomon Jan 2016 #77

"she didn't do that" left-of-center2012 Jan 2016 #120

Oh, God. maxsolomon Jan 2016 #124

Hmm... chervilant Jan 2016 #216

Again, Americans don't get nuance maxsolomon Jan 2016 #226

+1 BuddhaGirl Jan 2016 #207

Oh, lord... chervilant Jan 2016 #215

I "painted that picture" for myself the day Sanders announced. The paint is dry now. maxsolomon Jan 2016 #222

Now, there's an accusation chervilant Jan 2016 #225

Sorry, WTF do you think I asked you? maxsolomon Jan 2016 #229

The entire fucking media is going to be against Bernie these next few months. stillwaiting Jan 2016 #24

I AGREE !!! TryLogic Jan 2016 #69

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #29

character asassination against EITHER shouldn't be here navarth Jan 2016 #31

Agree. Snark does not change minds. TryLogic Jan 2016 #81

I agree. We should Jenny_92808 Jan 2016 #108

I Have To Admit... They've Been In The Huddle Now ChiciB1 Jan 2016 #38

It shows me they're more than nervous about Bernie stealing the show. NorthCarolina Jan 2016 #39

Hahahaha... quickesst Jan 2016 #40

Bernie isn't making up lies about Hillary Jenny_92808 Jan 2016 #113

I think... quickesst Jan 2016 #121

I say, bring it! Bernin4U Jan 2016 #41

K&R CharlotteVale Jan 2016 #44

K & R ! TIME TO PANIC Jan 2016 #50

I think it's all pretty mild, as elections go. lovemydog Jan 2016 #53

I can't really say that I am Jack Rabbit Jan 2016 #56

"I despise Clinton so very much" oberliner Jan 2016 #57

Ahhhh, the hypocrisy of some on the Left. Beacool Jan 2016 #110

Someone for Bernie stating that s/he dislikes Clinton because she PatrickforO Jan 2016 #118

"She tries to tear down anyone that stands in her way" oberliner Jan 2016 #193

Hillary has proven many times over that she's all of those things nyabingi Jan 2016 #212

She has good and bad qualities oberliner Jan 2016 #246

I used to think it was wrong. iandhr Jan 2016 #63

You are believing a lie Jenny_92808 Jan 2016 #122

Yes I am. trof Jan 2016 #64

I'm tried of character assassination on all our candidates. Is it so f'ing hard to support FSogol Jan 2016 #65

the babies who post on this message board like to rip. I SUPPORT BOTH OF OUR CANDIDATES trueblue2007 Jan 2016 #131

I join you in that sentiment Jenny_92808 Jan 2016 #174

We don't really have a choice. navarth Jan 2016 #228

Bernie needs to apologize and retract his statement on PP and Human rights campaign. I was riversedge Jan 2016 #66

I'm sick of straight Hillary supporters bleating about Human Rights Campaign, which IS the Bluenorthwest Jan 2016 #91

"I was disgusting".... Jenny_92808 Jan 2016 #123

be fair, at least half of the character assassination is against Bernie's supporters. Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #67

Well said Kall Jan 2016 #71

Oh please, give me a freaking break!!!! Beacool Jan 2016 #72

No kidding. Lil Missy Jan 2016 #100

Please understand this Beacool Jenny_92808 Jan 2016 #125

When you called links to stuff that DUers said "lies" you severely undermined stevenleser Jan 2016 #167

I understand Jenny_92808 Jan 2016 #175

I agree. Duval Jan 2016 #236

+ 1 JoePhilly Jan 2016 #129

i'm tired of the character assassination of Hillary. MariaThinks Jan 2016 #82

Hillary assassinates her own character. John Poet Jan 2016 #99

You just proved her point. Beacool Jan 2016 #109

That she is Jenny_92808 Jan 2016 #159

yup. MariaThinks Jan 2016 #269

People are upset for good reason Jenny_92808 Jan 2016 #126

what has hillary done to deserve so much vitriole from the left? MariaThinks Jan 2016 #270

Yes, but... Mike Nelson Jan 2016 #83

K&R Paka Jan 2016 #84

Having a Pathological liar dad... kinda ignore alot of the BS PatrynXX Jan 2016 #86

I'm tired of the character assassinations against sufrommich Jan 2016 #88

I Can Empathize With You.... Billsmile Jan 2016 #93

Thank you for this post. chervilant Jan 2016 #218

Yes, but Hillary is "despicable", etc., etc. Beacool Jan 2016 #112

We haven't seen anything yet, the party's just getting started. MerryBlooms Jan 2016 #89

Irony is funny, isn't it? nt MineralMan Jan 2016 #92

Yep, they fail to see the irony of someone defending Sanders by vilifying Hillary. Beacool Jan 2016 #119

Bernie is taking the high ground Jenny_92808 Jan 2016 #128

Sanders' high ground is a bit like quicksand. Beacool Jan 2016 #138

Hillary's swiftboating Jenny_92808 Jan 2016 #142

More like the Laurentian abyssal. Nt stevenleser Jan 2016 #168

We'll all need to be supporting the nominee. MineralMan Jan 2016 #202

K&R -- thank you!! senz Jan 2016 #94

Buckle up my friend. Stryder Jan 2016 #101

Aren't you tired of the character assassination against Hillary? The Second Stone Jan 2016 #103

You are a swiftboater against Bernie Jenny_92808 Jan 2016 #135

You are a swiftboater against Hillary The Second Stone Jan 2016 #155

What lies do you think Jenny_92808 Jan 2016 #160

Whhaaaa!!!!! Whaaaa!!!! The Second Stone Jan 2016 #169

So...let me get this straight: chervilant Jan 2016 #219

Whhaaaa!!!!! Whaaaa!!!! The Second Stone Jan 2016 #224

... chervilant Jan 2016 #227

I know enough about you from your posts The Second Stone Jan 2016 #262

Does it even occur to you that the venom you spew against Clinton The Second Stone Jan 2016 #171

They are looking for a way to "Dean Scream" him right now, I guarantee it! Odin2005 Jan 2016 #104

Lies, Lies, Lies... SoapBox Jan 2016 #105

? n/t doc03 Jan 2016 #114

You ain't seen nothing yet DaveT Jan 2016 #115

Her use of selective truth is her way of truthfully lying. EndElectoral Jan 2016 #117

Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Jan 2016 #132

Not to mention, His supporters are racist, misogynist, Mac Using, Olive Garden loving, Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #136

Sanders supporters here dont just engage in character assassination against Hillary. They do it stevenleser Jan 2016 #137

Nice compilation. Beacool Jan 2016 #140

It's such a small percentage of them too. stevenleser Jan 2016 #141

lying is a sin Jenny_92808 Jan 2016 #143

So don't do it then. How is posting links and quotes lying? Is that a new Sanders supporter meme? stevenleser Jan 2016 #144

I guess you need an example... Jenny_92808 Jan 2016 #148

Nope. You trying to assert Hillary supporters make attacks doesn't discount the attacks that Sanders stevenleser Jan 2016 #156

You are relying on Jenny_92808 Jan 2016 #162

So ya don't believe what your lying eyes tell you then? I posted links. You want me stevenleser Jan 2016 #164

You have not addressed the Hillary Jenny_92808 Jan 2016 #170

Read the title of the OP. The discussion is about Bernie stevenleser Jan 2016 #173

Good!! Beacool Jan 2016 #145

This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Jan 2016 #183

I'm done with it. If they attacked his policies that would be fine, but they don't so fuck it. Autumn Jan 2016 #146

An OP complaining about "character assassination" of Sanders that calls Brock a "trained monkey" Empowerer Jan 2016 #147

Bernie supporters have good cause Jenny_92808 Jan 2016 #150

Ahhh - It's not "character assassination" if you think you have good cause. Empowerer Jan 2016 #154

The hypocrisy is staggering. nt stevenleser Jan 2016 #158

No idea what Jenny_92808 Jan 2016 #165

He's a racist- no wait, he's a sexist too LittleBlue Jan 2016 #149

I guess Jenny_92808 Jan 2016 #166

I agree. lovemydog Jan 2016 #182

I assume you will say you've seen none of the same coming from the Sanders campaign or supporters? mythology Jan 2016 #161

No bigwillq Jan 2016 #172

So do you think Jenny_92808 Jan 2016 #180

Yes. Absolutely sick of the attacks. TDale313 Jan 2016 #178

Character assassination's all they got. nt Nyan Jan 2016 #187

I can see from my house Bernie is really hurt from them and i think he is even crying! nolabels Jan 2016 #189

If you take a look at the general tenor of DU, you'll see that those who are most fond of character synergie Jan 2016 #190

I love you. betsuni Jan 2016 #196

+1. tarheelsunc Jan 2016 #203

+1,000,000 Art_from_Ark Jan 2016 #191

Poor Bernie - he has no enemies, or so I've been told Politicub Jan 2016 #194

When you take on the status quo TBF Jan 2016 #195

Yes I am and that's why I'm sharing this telling video of Sanders laureloak Jan 2016 #197

Actually, I pity Hillary, not despise her. 99Forever Jan 2016 #198

Yes. Myrina Jan 2016 #199

I'm tired of the character assassination against all our candidates. (nt) Skinner Jan 2016 #201

Skinner, I'm sure you are. I'll modify my last comment. Duval Jan 2016 #244

Sanders is not perfect and has many flaws including political opportunism. Renew Deal Jan 2016 #204

No, I'm tired of the hysterical character assassination against Clinton. Nitram Jan 2016 #205

In this very post JohnnyRingo Jan 2016 #232

Complaining about character assassination Loki Jan 2016 #206

We do indeed have three amazing candidates. LanternWaste Jan 2016 #249

The Third Way can't win on policy..and neither can Hillary if she is honest about hers. n/t tokenlib Jan 2016 #208

Pissed more than tired! Either he wins more endorsments, minorities, etc. or he's weak. Bullshit! ancianita Jan 2016 #209

I was truly surprised that Biden joined in INdemo Jan 2016 #211

Pfff, it's not so much character assassination. With Bernie, it's character suicide...nt kjones Jan 2016 #217

You claim "character assassination" ... JohnnyRingo Jan 2016 #231

Check out Bernie's new AD! Duval Jan 2016 #234

Bernie persecution syndrome taught_me_patience Jan 2016 #235

I'm getting close to ignoring all political news shireen Jan 2016 #237

I welcome their hatred. klook Jan 2016 #240

Truly... a thread with merit, dignity, worth and value-- as like most of the threads in GDP. LanternWaste Jan 2016 #247

I'm tired of the Sanders campaign... NCTraveler Jan 2016 #267

You got it madokie Jan 2016 #268

I don't associate with people who engage in, or support, that kind of ugliness. Zorra Jan 2016 #271