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Showing Original Post only (View all)Let's get real, Bernie fans: It isn't "giving up" to admit a revolution isn't coming [View all]
Thursday, Jan 21, 2016 06:57 AM CST
Lets get real, Bernie fans: It isnt giving up to admit a revolution isnt coming
Sanders supporters have embraced the candidate's calls for a revolution. But structural barriers are real
Lets get real, Bernie fans: It isnt giving up to admit a revolution isnt coming http://www.salon.com/2016/01/21/lets_get_real_bernie_fans_it_isnt_giving_up_to_admit_a_revolution_isnt_coming/ via @Salon
Gary Legum
This past week has brought the shape of the Democratic primary into sharper focus. As we head into the start of voting, anyone paying attention to the arguments being made among voters, political professionals and opinion columnists should be able to recognize that the nomination fight is a battle between Hillary Clintons continuation of the pragmatic and incremental leftward policy push begun by Barack Obama, and the whole-loaf, smash-the-system revolution promised by Bernie Sanders.
One argument that pundits such as Jonathan Chait and Paul Krugman have made, and which I think is being yadda-yaddad a little too much by Sanderss supporters, is the observation that any Democratic president will be hamstrung by what will almost assuredly be a Republican-controlled Congress. Thanks to gerrymandering and demographic sorting (the habit of liberals to live in clusters in major cities while conservative voters are more evenly spread out through the country), the House of Representatives has little chance of seeing a Democratic majority either this year or in 2018.
Democrats have a better chance of retaking the Senate, but even there they will not have anything close to a 60-vote supermajority that can stop Republican obstructionism. Furthermore, there will still be enough moderate and conservative Democrats in the chamber to water down any liberal legislation. Add in that the Democratic caucus will likely be led by Chuck Schumer, who is not exactly Elizabeth Warren, and it is very likely that the Senate will be the same chokepoint it has been for most of our history. (And for which our sainted Founding Fathers designed it to be.)....................
This is something I think gets overlooked in all the talk about Sanderss revolution. For evidence, one only need look back at the early years of the Obama administration.
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This is not to argue that everyone should forget Sanders and go vote for Hillary Clinton, though obviously I fall into the incrementalism, get-what-you-can-within-the-systems-constraints camp. But the constraints are there, they cant be wished away, and they make rapid change nearly impossible in our polarized times. So I think its important for supporters of liberalism to remember them and to decide, no matter who is the nominee, the practical goals they will need to achieve to overcome them.....................
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Let's get real, Bernie fans: It isn't "giving up" to admit a revolution isn't coming [View all]
riversedge
Jan 2016
OP
What? Are you implying that these propaganda attempts to dampen your enthusiasm
NorthCarolina
Jan 2016
#5
It's not just corporate Republicans that are the problem. It's the corporate Democrats and the sell
Skwmom
Jan 2016
#3
The desperation is definitely reeking out openly and pouring by the bucketfuls.
snoringvoter
Jan 2016
#10
All these hit pieces on Bernie by these writters and Hillary supporters show desperation
Lawud
Jan 2016
#15
So in other words: shut up, stupid liberals, the times have passed you by.
Still In Wisconsin
Jan 2016
#17
This post is the equivalent of walking into a room with 80 percent vegetarians
CoffeeCat
Jan 2016
#36
Bernie says he will get elected without the establishment. good luck with that sillyness.
riversedge
Jan 2016
#48
I'm kicking and recommending just so the mocking and assault on Sanders supporters
CoffeeCat
Jan 2016
#40
salon has been downhill since they started presenting joan walsh as impartial.
restorefreedom
Jan 2016
#42
Constraints are meant to be broken, and that's exactly what we're going to do. n/t
Avalux
Jan 2016
#45
The 'Let's Get Real' message of 2008 was 'Let's get real, marriage equality is impossible and only
Bluenorthwest
Jan 2016
#46
Those that say it can’t be done should get out of the way of those doing it” GO BERNIE!!
BigBearJohn
Jan 2016
#51
I thought at first that this was fom The Onion!!! But it is meant as serious analysis?
guillaumeb
Jan 2016
#52
Republican gridlock is only an argument in favor of Clinton if you accept that her goals
Romulox
Jan 2016
#54
The idea that the US political landscape is unchangable is a political depression.
plus5mace
Jan 2016
#58