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Jack Rabbit

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66. Do you have evidence for that rather serious charge?
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 03:04 PM
Jan 2016

Bernis is taking money from Karl Rove's organization? Do you mean this? There's nothing here about Bernie taking money from Crossroads. There is something that might suggest a pattern of propping up Bernie to tear down Hillary, which in turn suggests that some Republican believe they will have an easier time beating Bernie. The reality is that wither Bernie Sanders or Hillary Clinton will defeat any of the clowns seeking the GOP nomination. If Karl Rove wants to play that game, he's welcome to play it, but it won't do the GOP presidential candidate any good.

Yes, Bernie is a socialist. Dishonest? Just ask him about it and see how dishonest he is. He'll tell you he's a democratic socialist. Usually, the press spells democratic with a capital D, but I think it is clear that Senator Sanders is more committed to the principles of parliamentary democracy than to any particular political party. That may play into what some at Camp Weathervane say, but I don't have a problem with it. I would hope that all Democrats are more committed to the principles of the parliamentary democracy than to a political party, and that distinguishes the Democrats in a positive way from the party that steals elections for an incompetent spoiled brat like Bush the Frat Boy, passes laws to make it more difficult for poor people to vote, etc.

If he restores the status quo ante for banking regulation to 1999 or even 1980, how is that unworkable? Americans enjoyed 50 years under that regulatory regime with no major financial crises. Within ten years of passing the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, we had a major meltdown street that crashed the world economy. What's unworkable is neoliberalism. If you like neoliberalism, vote for Hillary or for a Republican. If not, it seems the only viable candidate for you is Bernie Sanders.

He doesn't have a clue who to play
(sic; do you mean "who is going to pay"?) for the programs.

They will be paid for by rolling back the tax cuts billionaires have received since the beginning of the era of voodoo economics (AKA neoliberalism, supply-side economics, trickle-down economics or Reaganomics), especially the tax cuts passed under Bush the Frat Boy that have never been repealed. Given the state of income inequality and the persistent loss of US manufacturing jobs, there is no evidence that voodoo economics works as advertised. Far from showcasing the power of the free market, the middle class has shrunk noticeably during this period, giving the lie to any propaganda about the rich being "job creators." We've been living under the regime of voodoo economics for 35 years and if it was going to produce anything worthwhile, it would have by now. Its demise is long overdue.

It is guaranteed he doesn't have any votes for this schemes (sic).

He's got mine.

Dem's (sic) are not for High taxes, we are for a progressive fair tax system.

Voodoo economics does not endorse the concept of a "progressive fair tax system." That's why don't have a progressive tax system after 35 years of voodoo economics. The underlying assumption of voodoo tax policy is that the rich are lightly taxed because they use the revenue to create jobs. Do you still believe that? During this period, Democrats have been ineffective at restoring a progressive take system. Even billionaires like Warren Buffet have a problem with the unfairness of the tax system as it currently stands. Moreover, Democrats have been ineffective at holding congressional or legislative majorities during this period when the party's establishment, personified by incompetent national chairmen like Terry McAuliffe and Debbie Wasserman Schultz, have displayed a bias toward recruiting candidates who support neoliberal policies that have less popular appeal than more robust government policies like the New Deal and Great Society.

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The Clinton Campaign Is Screwed [View all] scottie55 Jan 2016 OP
They are afraid of the Democratic electorate AgingAmerican Jan 2016 #1
We can attack Sanders for what he stands for He is a socialist: He is dishonest lewebley3 Jan 2016 #15
What about the socialist programs medicare, social security. unemplolyment, expanding health Akamai Jan 2016 #18
Sanders is being funded by a GOP crossroads Pac: The country doesn't want lewebley3 Jan 2016 #24
He has been thoroughly vetted over decades AgingAmerican Jan 2016 #26
No way he has ever been vetted: that just is not true lewebley3 Jan 2016 #39
Prove it cannabis_flower Jan 2016 #45
Just for Starter's Sanders Honeymooned in Russia: American's will like that! lewebley3 Jan 2016 #64
He has been thoroughly vetted over decades AgingAmerican Jan 2016 #74
Hillary Wouldn't Understand IllinoisBrenel Jan 2016 #77
Exactly. tecelote Jan 2016 #132
You might say that... Paka Jan 2016 #118
Don't waste the electrons on that one. hifiguy Jan 2016 #161
Wrong! cannabis_flower Jan 2016 #89
You did know that Bill Clinton went with an anti-war coallation to the USSR and newthinking Jan 2016 #111
That myth has been disproven... Why do you still use it? MrMickeysMom Jan 2016 #114
Is it 1954 where you are? merrily Jan 2016 #127
He was there on a trade mission emsimon33 Jan 2016 #130
Why would someone that has been vetted for decades . 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #168
Post removed Post removed Jan 2016 #48
Sorry Sanders has cannot get away with fraudulent ideas anymore than Trump Should lewebley3 Jan 2016 #62
And nether can you AgingAmerican Jan 2016 #75
Fraudulent Ideas? IllinoisBrenel Jan 2016 #78
Fraudulent=Hillary 840high Jan 2016 #93
He was elected mayor of Burlington, Vt. several times. JDPriestly Jan 2016 #96
He been vetied over decades AND people just ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #167
He doesnt have to be reinvestigated over and over AgingAmerican Jan 2016 #173
Such steaming hot horseshit. nm floriduck Jan 2016 #29
No absolutely true: Crossroad bought ads to attack Hillary;using lewebley3 Jan 2016 #36
Your logic sucks. If Rove had an ad attacking Bernie, could others claim that Clinton was Akamai Jan 2016 #50
Rove is helping Sanders: Sanders has a besmich rep he is not a Dem lewebley3 Jan 2016 #60
Wow! I had thought previously that you are a strong supporter, but I did not know that you are Akamai Jan 2016 #68
+1 stonecutter357 Jan 2016 #143
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Sad Kall Jan 2016 #86
Not a superpac for Bernie. JDPriestly Jan 2016 #98
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lew, Do you work for the don? saidsimplesimon Jan 2016 #37
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^^^^^THIS^^^^^ Blus4u Jan 2016 #59
Strange that words are often mispelled and sentences broken. I wonder rhett o rick Jan 2016 #149
I've pondered that too Plucketeer Jan 2016 #153
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and a better post writer dorkzilla Jan 2016 #99
Might I ask which country you post from? nm rhett o rick Jan 2016 #150
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Stephanie Miller reported it on her show lewebley3 Jan 2016 #61
She 'reported' it? AgingAmerican Jan 2016 #169
I know you are pulling this stuff out of thin air DJ13 Jan 2016 #131
Link or slink. merrily Jan 2016 #55
What???? PatrickforO Jan 2016 #57
Do you have evidence for that rather serious charge? Jack Rabbit Jan 2016 #66
Please provide a link for your claim that Sanders is funded by a GOP JDPriestly Jan 2016 #94
"free stuff" dflprincess Jan 2016 #117
You've exposed yourself. "Giving out free stuff" is right wing talking points. rhett o rick Jan 2016 #123
Results... Major Nikon Jan 2016 #134
I never had a chance to ask you if i am on your list? stonecutter357 Jan 2016 #144
You are certainly not on my Christmas list. nm rhett o rick Jan 2016 #152
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'' wants to give out free stuff without anyway to play for it.'' Shadowflash Jan 2016 #148
Please don't lie like that RoccoR5955 Jan 2016 #27
Sorry it is just the truth: He makes promises like Trump: they have no way lewebley3 Jan 2016 #38
Like I said RoccoR5955 Jan 2016 #40
Just the truth lewebley3 Jan 2016 #42
You wouldn't know the truth if it hit you in the face Duckfan Jan 2016 #54
FYI: Smply repeating "link or slink" usually works with this poster in that merrily Jan 2016 #56
Yes I do: I Sanders is Mcgovern repeating History: as wells Mondale, Dukkis etc lewebley3 Jan 2016 #65
Who is this Dukkis you speak of? shawn703 Jan 2016 #102
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Who the hell is Dukkis? Nt tex-wyo-dem Jan 2016 #103
lewebley3, an ardent Hillary Clinton supporter sasquuatch55 Jan 2016 #145
I guess you have to keep telling yourself that lie. RoccoR5955 Jan 2016 #119
Latest senate bill was filed in 2013. Warren Stupidity Jan 2016 #35
So socialism is bad? kristopher Jan 2016 #67
This your problem: you are confused with where you live: lewebley3 Jan 2016 #69
No, I just didn't go all the way down to #22 on the list. kristopher Jan 2016 #70
The American people that live in American don't want European socialism. lewebley3 Jan 2016 #71
A mixed economy is what Sanders proposes kristopher Jan 2016 #81
If sanders is proposing nothing more than a mixed economy . ... reACTIONary Jan 2016 #106
Must be horrible to suffer from such self-induced confusion. kristopher Jan 2016 #110
Actually, we have mixed economies here in Europe too TubbersUK Jan 2016 #101
We do here in america also.... reACTIONary Jan 2016 #104
I know TubbersUK Jan 2016 #105
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If what you want is... reACTIONary Jan 2016 #162
That is gibberish. kristopher Jan 2016 #166
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The dishonesty is calling Bernie a Socialist instead of Democratic Socialist. Dustlawyer Jan 2016 #107
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K&R! stonecutter357 Jan 2016 #141
Unfortunately Hillary Has Thousands Of Trough Feeders scottie55 Jan 2016 #3
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