2016 Postmortem

DemocratSinceBirth

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135. To suggest I oppose equal rights or helping folks in need. That's an ugly accusation.

Reply to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #134)

Thu Jan 21, 2016, 04:42 PM

Jan 2016

You have to some serious stirrings in your own soul to accuse a stranger of that.

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I am not afraid to stand with the Democratic Party Establishment. [View all] DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 OP

Today's type of Democraric Party Est. can't really mmonk Jan 2016 #1

Tell it! n/t RoccoR5955 Jan 2016 #16

Exactly! Skwmom Jan 2016 #22

Many would vote against that list. Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #25

Amazing how many DUers now DESPISE Obamacare... Hortensis Jan 2016 #108

It's not a choice between "love it or hate it". Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #117

It should not be. But Bernie wants to replace it, and Hortensis Jan 2016 #118

The wonderful thing about the ACA is it made healthcare a government responsibility.... Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #119

You sound balanced enough, maybe go tell THEM? Hortensis Jan 2016 #120

I just did. Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #127

Too bad he doesn't have any actual plan to acheive that goal. synergie Jan 2016 #121

Who told you that? Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #126

I don't despise it. Fawke Em Jan 2016 #146

Yeah, like comparing nowadays Republicans ... Helen Borg Jan 2016 #26

Here's what they can take credit for berni_mccoy Jan 2016 #37

Good list winterwar Jan 2016 #61

I agree. Today's Democratic Establishment are more like today's Republicans -- they Cal33 Jan 2016 #65

they sold out our legacy for 30 pieces of silver. that list is seventy years old roguevalley Jan 2016 #89

They did. I also have the impression that the Republicans (unlike many free and Cal33 Jan 2016 #106

Some of those are liberal myths... JohnnyRingo Jan 2016 #100

It can't take credit for almost ANY of it. pangaia Jan 2016 #69

None but the last two Armstead Jan 2016 #93

And this includes Bernie himself, who has been around long enough to be considered part of that synergie Jan 2016 #122

Being around does not make one part of the establishment Armstead Jan 2016 #123

" It might not be sexy, it might not be chic, it might not be avante-garde" darkangel218 Jan 2016 #2

a lot of the things the op posts DonCoquixote Jan 2016 #4

Excellent point Depaysement Jan 2016 #102

DU rec...nt SidDithers Jan 2016 #3

Today's Democratic Establishment are more like Republicans than Democrats. That's why Cal33 Jan 2016 #73

I stand with the Democratic Party William769 Jan 2016 #5

We don't want to tear apart the party any more than fellow socialist FDR did then... cascadiance Jan 2016 #6

My parents were FDR Democrats and I can assure you Socialists had nothing to do with it. William769 Jan 2016 #7

+1 stonecutter357 Jan 2016 #15

That's why they called FDR a socialist. RoccoR5955 Jan 2016 #17

My parents didn't, Im pretty sure the republicans did though which isn't say much. nt William769 Jan 2016 #18

The corporate Dems called him a socialist as well. n/t RoccoR5955 Jan 2016 #20

And the socialists called him a bank-loving fascist Recursion Jan 2016 #116

I am sure that you are for socialist programs, like social security, unemployment insurance, Akamai Jan 2016 #56

I think you need to learn what a socialist program actually is. nt William769 Jan 2016 #58

Tell us William. Help us Sanders folk out. elias49 Jan 2016 #60

A "socialist program" is anything that is not in 150% support of HRC and her $pon$or$ hobbit709 Jan 2016 #68

Thanks hobbit709.. elias49 Jan 2016 #72

Yup. Shadowflash Jan 2016 #83

we are still waiting ish of the hammer Jan 2016 #91

Crickets. elias49 Jan 2016 #97

I am a capitalist-socialist. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #105

Go talk to the banks. And Wall St. Tell them to "Cut it out!" elias49 Jan 2016 #111

Still waiting, more than 10 hrs later. Educate us, William - what is a "socialist program"?? kath Jan 2016 #147

Reply #147 has a good question. What is a socialist program William? GummyBearz Jan 2016 #153

This message was self-deleted by its author sammythecat Jan 2016 #113

Oh sure. He was into selfish individualism. Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #35

whatever they want to say daybranch Jan 2016 #39

That's utter nonsense. Socialist ideas had *everything* to do with FDR's success! reformist2 Jan 2016 #151

What a joke of a response hueymahl Jan 2016 #33

I am a Democratic-Socialist-----------I have to ask what has my political affiliation done to the turbinetree Jan 2016 #84

K&R betsuni Jan 2016 #8

Right. If I need to pick the "establishment" such as PP then I choose them over Bernie. That was seaglass Jan 2016 #9

you should have used this video.not as radical,like the Socialists!!! wendylaroux Jan 2016 #10

I have been a Democrat all my life. Peacetrain Jan 2016 #11

This ... BlueMTexpat Jan 2016 #29

+1 uponit7771 Jan 2016 #51

Same here. Nature made me a liberal, and Hortensis Jan 2016 #110

You're not afraid to settle for the status quo ... Martin Eden Jan 2016 #12

My thoughts too. daybranch Jan 2016 #53

No Bravery Required Martin Eden Jan 2016 #95

K&R nt NCTraveler Jan 2016 #13

FDR had to fight establishment, wall street Dems to enact his New Deal. RiverLover Jan 2016 #14

That's correct RoccoR5955 Jan 2016 #19

Precisely. leftupnorth Jan 2016 #28

My response DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #85

According to your definition, about 80 percent of the people on DU to some degree Armstead Jan 2016 #94

In all honesty today's Democrats are split between the late 20th and early 21st century.... Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #50

Amen. hueymahl Jan 2016 #36

Excellent post, RiverLover! eom Kermitt Gribble Jan 2016 #124

I never stood with an "Establishment" that would rather suck up to Wall St. than stand up to them. hobbit709 Jan 2016 #21

Hmmm. Looks like a roster filled with socialist policies, doesn't it? Vinca Jan 2016 #23

It certainly does. R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2016 #48

LMAO! Blind and rabid party loyalty is no virtue. leftupnorth Jan 2016 #24

I find it kind of creepy myself. zeemike Jan 2016 #46

It's the "My country, right or wrong...love it or leave it" zombie shuffle. R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2016 #52

You know, I actually thought that authoritarian followers leftupnorth Jan 2016 #55

It's a tell that some personality cultists reveal when their beliefs are challenged. R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2016 #63

This is kind of silly. morningfog Jan 2016 #27

I Agree, that's why I'm a Democrat, however aintitfunny Jan 2016 #30

And how many of today's Democrats in the establishment... vi5 Jan 2016 #31

I stand with New Deal Democrats, not DINOs, Blue Dogs or Third Way DLC "Democrats." Feeling the Bern Jan 2016 #32

More revisionist bullshit from the "Establishment" hahaha. draa Jan 2016 #34

What an absolutely bizarre post hueymahl Jan 2016 #38

Yes winterwar Jan 2016 #67

Who was the Commander In Chief during WW l and WW ll DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #152

A vapid lackey to a party that no longer represents the values you list, nor those accomplishments Katashi_itto Jan 2016 #40

My response DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #79

I would say the same thing in person. Katashi_itto Jan 2016 #87

May I infer from that you take pride in casually disrespecting people who disagree with you? DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #92

Only when someone expounds blind loyalty and obedience to and organziation that long ago stopped Katashi_itto Jan 2016 #96

It still represents me. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #98

They throw us a few social crumbs and steal us blind. Katashi_itto Jan 2016 #99

No group is a monolith DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #101

Whatever. The party doesn't represent anything anymore, except money. Katashi_itto Jan 2016 #103

One is forced to wonder how much they pay people to post crap like this leftupnorth Jan 2016 #41

My response DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #74

That was then. This is now. Then does not equal now. NRaleighLiberal Jan 2016 #42

P.S. IF YOU were honest with yourself NorthCarolina Jan 2016 #43

It ain't your fathers Democratic Party establishment tularetom Jan 2016 #44

How many, within the Democratic Party Establishment, would be willing to slash or cut R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2016 #45

Standing with Ghosts Fuddnik Jan 2016 #47

+1, imperfect but can be worked with. uponit7771 Jan 2016 #49

People! Participate in the Party Purity Parade! cherokeeprogressive Jan 2016 #54

What a great list of accomplishments Uponthegears Jan 2016 #57

There are more but If I edit my thread I get the red edit icon which makes my post... DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #62

Well Uponthegears Jan 2016 #71

I don't think there's anyone who would argue with traditional FDR Populist Democratic party values.. raindaddy Jan 2016 #59

I am not afraid to reject a Democratic Party Establishment that lost it's way 35 years ago. Indepatriot Jan 2016 #64

My response DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #88

I don't believe either party is more than remotely connected to their platforms in JFKs time. Indepatriot Jan 2016 #115

What have they done lately? Armstead Jan 2016 #66

mo' like MisterP Jan 2016 #70

A video clip right to the point. earthside Jan 2016 #78

I live in a red state and I am working hard to turn my state blue Gothmog Jan 2016 #75

Except the 'Establishment" now is favoring Wall St behind the scenes Roland99 Jan 2016 #76

I'm not afraid to, either...I just don't. Punkingal Jan 2016 #77

LOL @ "fear" and "standing with the establishment". jalan48 Jan 2016 #80

Most of those things were NOT instituted by New Democrats, who have been helping Republicans merrily Jan 2016 #81

Marriage equality and the ACA, sulphurdunn Jan 2016 #82

Title of this thread is a strawman argument. Old Crow Jan 2016 #86

No surprise there. blackspade Jan 2016 #90

I stand with the Democratic Party. cheapdate Jan 2016 #104

I see no reason to stand with the Democratic Party Establishment. Autumn Jan 2016 #107

The exciting world of corporate nothingness! AgingAmerican Jan 2016 #109

You don't even know... MellowDem Jan 2016 #112

Then you stand with drastic levels of wealth disparity and income equality. Broward Jan 2016 #114

Modern Third Way Democrats would actively fight about 80% of that list. Romulox Jan 2016 #125

Here is my list DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #128

YOU would fight against every item on that list, if Hillary opposed it. nt Romulox Jan 2016 #129

" YOU would fight against every item on that list, if Hillary opposed it. nt/" DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #131

That poster, clearly, doesn't know you, or anything about you ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #132

It seems our friend made an assertion. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #133

I know ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #134

To suggest I oppose equal rights or helping folks in need. That's an ugly accusation. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #135

Well ... Sadly, it's fairly consistent with their world view, i.e., their projections ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #136

I don't believe a Manichean view of the world is productive, for anybody. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #137

LOL ...Had to look that up ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #140

It betrays more than a smidgen of paternalism and authoritarianism DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #142

Remember: your claim is that you're an O'Malley supporter! Romulox Jan 2016 #138

Yes ... very well ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #143

What does his choice of candidate have to do with his posts? DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #150

Your autobiography is of no interest to me. Romulox Jan 2016 #139

I am glad DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #149

I am laughing at you because most, nearly all, of that stuff you listed is not from.... Bread and Circus Jan 2016 #130

Um, the DLC doesn't exist anymore. Time to update that VERY dead DLC line. RBInMaine Jan 2016 #144

Third Way, whatever euphemism they use. Doesn't matter. The point is the same. Bread and Circus Jan 2016 #145

Great List Except Nanjeanne Jan 2016 #141

+1000 Warren Stupidity Jan 2016 #148