2016 Postmortem

Hoyt

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113. He's been a good Prez and he was supported by good Democrats. Unfortunately, some Democrats feel

Fri Jan 22, 2016, 04:03 PM

Jan 2016

like Obama "just wasn't good enough."

Clinton will be a good Prez too because I don't believe all the Democrats that have supported her over they years are as out of touch as some here seem to believe.

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WTF is this crap Hillary? Shopping around a doc saying Bernie is pro-Communist? [View all] pinebox Jan 2016 OP

I don't doubt this is true, but... HerbChestnut Jan 2016 #1

Time to talk about the Clinton Foundation. azmom Jan 2016 #2

the pay for play scam they have going? Okay. :D:D:D roguevalley Jan 2016 #123

Not much different than branding Clinton a Third Way, Neo-Liberal, Oligarch, or some such. Hoyt Jan 2016 #3

because she is pinebox Jan 2016 #8

so, you believe everything you read on Kos. got it. riversedge Jan 2016 #28

So you can't debunk anything? pinebox Jan 2016 #44

An hour has passed and nothing. retrowire Jan 2016 #70

yup. they're on it. restorefreedom Jan 2016 #77

What I hate about the lies her group is telling draa Jan 2016 #90

Some...a very small/few supported her...there are others that still post against Hillary on Benghazi Sheepshank Jan 2016 #103

Bullshit. Benghazi was bullshit and we all know it. blackspade Jan 2016 #114

Then perhaps you can tell your "brothers in arms" to drop that crappola next time it comeS N/T up Sheepshank Jan 2016 #122

"brothers in arms"....Interesting that you would use that term. blackspade Jan 2016 #149

I will let you know next time I see a Benghazi post used to slam Hillary Sheepshank Jan 2016 #151

Some of you need to stop conflating an unsecured server with Benghazi. Fawke Em Jan 2016 #157

what makes you think you are in any position to tell anyone to learn anything? Sheepshank Jan 2016 #160

Hillary and her supporters are burning a lot of bridges. JDPriestly Jan 2016 #120

This: AlbertCat Jan 2016 #143

HillBill Is A Sinkin Fast... And It Is ENTIRELY HER DOING! CorporatistNation Jan 2016 #166

I agree! n/t cui bono Jan 2016 #170

a very small/few supported her. AlbertCat Jan 2016 #140

your post appear to be the very epitome of everything you complained about haa haa haaa n/t Sheepshank Jan 2016 #152

Link? merrily Jan 2016 #154

Where? Links to DUers using Benghazi against Hillary? cui bono Jan 2016 #169

I just will not waste my time on sillyness. bye riversedge Jan 2016 #159

lol [x] Wrecked. [ ] Not wrecked. pinebox Jan 2016 #161

I believe what I see with my own two eyes! n/t RoccoR5955 Jan 2016 #66

Those who use insult where retort would excell use insult because they are bereft of better argument Bluenorthwest Jan 2016 #68

No, because we can watch her in action. Fawke Em Jan 2016 #156

Absolutely MissDeeds Jan 2016 #136

Which means that you want to stay away from Hillary.... daleanime Jan 2016 #11

Those are true statements hobbit709 Jan 2016 #15

Sanders will easily get that... CoffeeCat Jan 2016 #17

I'm concerned about the general election. Hoyt Jan 2016 #38

Me too. tecelote Jan 2016 #55

I am too, seriously. navarth Jan 2016 #60

As I said, I don't think Sanders is a commie, nor does in matter. I don't think Clinton called him Hoyt Jan 2016 #82

I just don't see much good in exaggeration. navarth Jan 2016 #111

Egg-jazz-err-a-shun. ChairmanAgnostic Jan 2016 #131

Don't be. tazkcmo Jan 2016 #182

Yeah Kall Jan 2016 #184

This Communist bullshit is beyond the pale... Punkingal Jan 2016 #21

Difference being Hillary is all those things AgingAmerican Jan 2016 #27

uh....she *is* DLC/Third Way Roland99 Jan 2016 #63

Well, I guess all those Democratic third wayers in New York were wrong electing her. Obama was wrong Hoyt Jan 2016 #79

Many things Obama has done wrong or forgotten about or done a 180 on from his original campaign. Roland99 Jan 2016 #98

He's been a good Prez and he was supported by good Democrats. Unfortunately, some Democrats feel Hoyt Jan 2016 #113

He wasn't good enough. We can do much, much better. cui bono Jan 2016 #172

Did you see the price of oil? We must have war with Iran. Oil would be over $100/barrel next day. Enthusiast Jan 2016 #190

Obama was wrong tapping her for Secretary of State Kalidurga Jan 2016 #189

And it is the DLC and its remnants that are MORE tied to Stalin than Bernie ever was... cascadiance Jan 2016 #138

The difference is Old Codger Jan 2016 #88

Well, since her husband, whatsisname... gregcrawford Jan 2016 #125

Geebus. Are you kidding? It's very different. Those things are true. merrily Jan 2016 #153

Truth is hard. cui bono Jan 2016 #173

Truth is hard; false equivalencies are easy. merrily Jan 2016 #186

Either it's true or it isn't and if it isn't... why are they saying so? sibelian Jan 2016 #193

Slimy and they've been shopping around crap cali Jan 2016 #4

This says it all passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #84

Who needs guess-work? Wilms Jan 2016 #5

It's worse than stupid pet tricks Duckfan Jan 2016 #59

Stupid humor or stupid human? cui bono Jan 2016 #174

While Snopes denies it, there's always that issue of the 45 dead people known to them. nt TheBlackAdder Jan 2016 #6

Considering the pretty consistant -- Hell Hath No Fury Jan 2016 #7

ok. n/t zappaman Jan 2016 #9

He also allowed fluoridation of the water while mayor of Burlington DefenseLawyer Jan 2016 #10

. JonLeibowitz Jan 2016 #37

They are tryng to poison my precious bodily fluids. pangaia Jan 2016 #96

Post removed Post removed Jan 2016 #12

Are you now or have you ever been, courtesty of the Hillary campaign. CharlotteVale Jan 2016 #13

Those turbine blades must be hitting 100,000 rpm again. hobbit709 Jan 2016 #14

next up, a scary image of the South under RED OCCUPATION MisterP Jan 2016 #16

Remember Marty McGraw Jan 2016 #48

Brock: "oh no, McCain's a commie now!" MisterP Jan 2016 #50

That would be fitting Mnpaul Jan 2016 #162

hence-a their outrageous accents! MisterP Jan 2016 #163

LMFAO.. Love it Fumesucker Jan 2016 #180

Is This The "Joseph McCarthy" Era Again? WTF? fredamae Jan 2016 #18

what do you think Karl rove and his kind will do to Sanders, should by riversedge Jan 2016 #25

So Hillary is like a Rove shit slinging test bed? AgingAmerican Jan 2016 #30

No i did not say that. You did and shame on you for saying it. riversedge Jan 2016 #33

That is essentially what you are saying AgingAmerican Jan 2016 #42

Stop making stuff up -what you imagine I said. Enough bye riversedge Jan 2016 #52

You implied it Bradical79 Jan 2016 #117

Oh, come on... take your own advice and buck up. cui bono Jan 2016 #177

Might have well said it because cannabis_flower Jan 2016 #69

Hillary is worse. She does it to her own party members. morningfog Jan 2016 #53

Which is really short-sighted beltanefauve Jan 2016 #86

What do you think Karl Rove and his kind will fredamae Jan 2016 #32

So we should be thanking Clinton TM99 Jan 2016 #46

only in my mind could that crap what you just said be conjured up. riversedge Jan 2016 #54

Ok then, we should criticize TM99 Jan 2016 #81

Hill supporters beltanefauve Jan 2016 #91

Yeah, me too. TM99 Jan 2016 #95

Rove's got nothing on HIllary. She's ten times worse. morningfog Jan 2016 #51

Why give the Republicans ammo? Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #57

'cos no Bernie supporter has done that to Hillary....what a crock of shit. n/t Sheepshank Jan 2016 #118

It's okay to be evil because you see the other side as evil? Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #121

This close to elections, is don't serve anyone to act as a door mat. n/t Sheepshank Jan 2016 #124

I don't do this often but: WTF? Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #127

So you agree with her red baiting? You like McCarthyism? cui bono Jan 2016 #179

First of all, this is what Hillary herself is doing, not a supporter. cui bono Jan 2016 #181

Let fucking Rove do what he will. pangaia Jan 2016 #99

Sounds like Hilary's kind are already at it. GeorgeGist Jan 2016 #107

what do you think Karl rove and his kind will do to Sanders, AlbertCat Jan 2016 #144

So you're rationalizing Hillary using disgusting right wing tactics that Rove would use? cui bono Jan 2016 #175

Well, *one* of the two candidates supported Barry Goldwater. EOM The Green Manalishi Jan 2016 #94

Except Barry was too smart for today's GOP ChairmanAgnostic Jan 2016 #137

Poor Bernie supporters! Can't stand even the slightest criticism of Bernie. beaglelover Jan 2016 #19

Did you notice that this OP and the replies are posted in GDP, hardly a safe place. Autumn Jan 2016 #29

Calling him a communist sympathizer is hardly "slight criticism" and you know it. arcane1 Jan 2016 #36

So you are fine with 50s style right wing McCarthyism from your candidate? AgingAmerican Jan 2016 #39

I won't. beaglelover Jan 2016 #40

Stop making stuff up and looking foolish. It is not from Hillary and you know it. bye riversedge Jan 2016 #58

It's brock, no doubt Voice for Peace Jan 2016 #85

its her surrogates AgingAmerican Jan 2016 #167

One year from today... 99Forever Jan 2016 #47

Watching the guys with the big butterfly nets will be even better. Fuddnik Jan 2016 #75

Run fast... 99Forever Jan 2016 #106

ah.. because Marty McGraw Jan 2016 #49

There's only one safe place here, and we're not allowed in it. Fuddnik Jan 2016 #71

Bernie says it, it gets pointed out and his supporters go insane. Dawson Leery Jan 2016 #126

How do you stand looking in a mirror? ChairmanAgnostic Jan 2016 #133

Jury results: merrily Jan 2016 #147

Keep lovin' your Koch brothers' commie money funded DLC roots why don't ya! cascadiance Jan 2016 #139

No, we're just tired of the lies your candidate MissDeeds Jan 2016 #142

Red baiting and McCarthyism are hardly slight criticisms. cui bono Jan 2016 #176

You think this is a "slightest" criticism. mikehiggins Jan 2016 #183

It's not a criticism. It's just bollocks. sibelian Jan 2016 #194

We knew it was coming, folks! beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #20

It will backfire spectacularly Mufaddal Jan 2016 #22

It will backfire spectacularly AlbertCat Jan 2016 #146

Yeah I've seen Bernie's Soviet flag pulled out several times this week Autumn Jan 2016 #23

HRC has gone off the rails. glinda Jan 2016 #24

Hillary slinging mud. May be her only chance at this point. Broward Jan 2016 #26

Has she hit bottom, yet? last1standing Jan 2016 #31

Hell no. cali Jan 2016 #34

She did, but then she found a shovel. (nt) jeff47 Jan 2016 #112

Like the ones she gave Iowans in 2008? Fawke Em Jan 2016 #158

RED BAITING Shrillary? That's what you got now? Still In Wisconsin Jan 2016 #35

Just a head's up: If you want to stay here for awhile -- Hell Hath No Fury Jan 2016 #41

I fully expect to be banned, and probably today. Still In Wisconsin Jan 2016 #45

yeah, I detest her politics & behavior but let's leave "shrill" and "pantsuit" out of it zazen Jan 2016 #76

There's plenty of valid criticism beltanefauve Jan 2016 #93

Zero connection to Clinton. NCTraveler Jan 2016 #43

Every day I like her even less Ferd Berfel Jan 2016 #56

Her internal polling must be something to see. Bernie must be winning by more than we think he is. Vinca Jan 2016 #61

Since the gloves are off Truprogressive85 Jan 2016 #62

They must be petrified they will lose Iowa. . Peregrine Took Jan 2016 #64

Fuck her Campaign of Lies! SoapBox Jan 2016 #65

They must be VERY worried that they will lose. RoccoR5955 Jan 2016 #67

this typical hilary smear machine. imagine if we allow her the power desires bowens43 Jan 2016 #72

People with shady buddies ought to be very careful about starting guilt by association. JoeyT Jan 2016 #73

Hillary will NEVER EVER get my vote !!! urbuddha Jan 2016 #74

Lots of people feel the way 840high Jan 2016 #104

I was withholding that decision about holding my nose, but this crap doesn't make it easier EndElectoral Jan 2016 #109

Your post needed this ... JoePhilly Jan 2016 #119

They really want to go there? sarge43 Jan 2016 #78

definitely fan hitting time restorefreedom Jan 2016 #97

And the sad thing about this is INdemo Jan 2016 #80

Whatever It Takes(tm) arcane1 Jan 2016 #92

its ON,clintons restorefreedom Jan 2016 #83

and she don't understand why Bernie's numbers are rising. . . B Calm Jan 2016 #87

Did she object when Walmart was sourcing some of its goods from China closeupready Jan 2016 #89

I suppose it's only fair to sling mud back..... I would not vote for a doormat Sheepshank Jan 2016 #100

prefer Hillary to be a doormat AlbertCat Jan 2016 #148

of course the mysoginistic crowd would love all women to be doormats n/t Sheepshank Jan 2016 #150

Ugly. A preview zentrum Jan 2016 #101

Bernie is a socialist? Pro-communist? abelenkpe Jan 2016 #102

Who else visited the USSR in 1988? Reagan; 125,000 American citizens; 20 major corporations spedtr90 Jan 2016 #105

I went and studied there in 76. I ended up teaching there after the USSR fell. ChairmanAgnostic Jan 2016 #135

Shades of McCarthyism... EndElectoral Jan 2016 #108

I would say that is unbelievable from a Democrat..... blackspade Jan 2016 #110

Next they'll claim he's Nader. Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #115

I got news for ya: november3rd Jan 2016 #116

K & R !!! WillyT Jan 2016 #128

Sanders “sympathized with the USSR during the Cold War” AlbertCat Jan 2016 #129

Keep it up, Hillary MissDeeds Jan 2016 #130

"passed on to the Guardian by a source who would only agree to be identified as “a Democrat”" JTFrog Jan 2016 #132

Of course, how else to keep the money flowing in? Also, is oppo research news to these guys? synergie Jan 2016 #185

If she gets the nomination, who will vote for her? emsimon33 Jan 2016 #134

Deja vu Truprogressive85 Jan 2016 #141

meet me at the book burning! Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #145

her transparent campaign gets worse every day. my friend supports her but she hates her campaign. ViseGrip Jan 2016 #155

All respect now gone.... glinda Jan 2016 #164

The more they red-bait they more Millennials will flock to Bernie. Odin2005 Jan 2016 #165

Well if there is an actual doc, LeatherSofa Jan 2016 #168

Doubtful pinebox Jan 2016 #187

Really? > a source who would only agree to be identified as “a Democrat” Lucinda Jan 2016 #171

The guy just got off vacation for constantly dumping right wing shit in this forum. JTFrog Jan 2016 #192

I've been away from DU for a while and it's amazing how much has changed. Lucinda Jan 2016 #195

Here's a Clinton statement about Red-baiting (blast from the past): " A pathetic ploy by a desperate kath Jan 2016 #178

She's been seeing her polling amongst older voters start to slip Kentonio Jan 2016 #188

Funny, given the pro-Putin stance of the other side! Helen Borg Jan 2016 #197

Kicked and recommended! I am sick of this bullshit. Enthusiast Jan 2016 #191

Perhaps we all are Democratic Communists after all... Helen Borg Jan 2016 #196