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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Washington Post: "How Cornel West Hurts Bernie Sanders" [View all]Gothmog
(174,482 posts)35. Cornel West is a bad surrogate for Sanders
And Sanders is still not polling well with African American or Latino voters and so maybe he needs to change what he is doing http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/01/poll-sanders-gains-stop-short-of-minorities.html#
Team Sanders is certainly focused on the problem, with a variety of campaign efforts focused on minority voters in the works. The talking points they are putting out there, however, are less than convincing, as I learned as a guest on the public radio show "To the Point" yesterday, when I heard a Sanders supporter argue that an Iowa win would greatly boost Bernie's African-American support just like it did for Obama in South Carolina in 2008. The idea that Sanders's potential to win the black vote in South Carolina is analogous to that of the first African-American president does not pass the laugh test. Still, any early-state win for Sanders, even in exceptionally honkified Iowa and New Hampshire, will likely create some sort of generalized bounce. The question is how high, and how loyal minority voters prove to be to Hillary Clinton, her husband, and her implicit ally Barack Obama. It's worth remembering that she defeated Barack Obama handily among Latinos in 2008, and that Bill Clinton enjoyed robust support in both communities.
Monmouth University has a new national poll out that casts some fascinating, if very preliminary, light on this subject. Compared to its poll in December, Monmouth shows Sanders making pretty big gains: Clinton was up 59-to-26 last month, and only 52-to-37 now. But among black and Latino voters, Clinton has actually expanded her lead from 61-to-18 to 71-to-21. In other words, a legitimate "Sanders surge" nationally has coincided with a deterioration of his standing with the voters he will most need for a breakthrough after the first two contests of the primary season.
Sanders is actually losing ground with African American voters and Sanders' current tactics are not evidently working.
Sanders will not be the nominee unless he can expand his base of supporters. Super Tuesday will be a long day for Sanders. Vermont is one of the last states with 90+% white voting populations
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Funny that you say HRC's surrogates are irrelevant - and then you light into them, so they must
Empowerer
Jan 2016
#9
Don't you know Hillary is responsible for anything said and done by those even tangentially related
Metric System
Jan 2016
#13
So, you think it's smart for the Sanders campaign to send out a man with whom black people
Empowerer
Jan 2016
#27
Why do you keep saying what Black people "should" do? Do you really think that we haven't thought
Empowerer
Jan 2016
#48
I have seen the Tampa Bay Times stir the same shit pot in Florida. I hope people see through this.
ViseGrip
Jan 2016
#7
Wash Post? Please. The only ones reading posts like these are worried Bernie fans.
dinkytron
Jan 2016
#17
The fact that he takes a position that you don't agree with makes him a "f--king clown?"
Empowerer
Jan 2016
#28
Capehard didn't present West as a liability because he doesn't agree with him
Empowerer
Jan 2016
#34
So tired of hearing Hillary fans lecturing on how the Bernie campaign should be run
Kentonio
Jan 2016
#58
You think he hurts Sanders more than Debbie "millennials suck, put pot smokers in prison" Wasserman
Warren DeMontague
Jan 2016
#42
Clinton hasn't designated Wasserman-Shultz as her surrogate and sent her out to campaign on her
Empowerer
Jan 2016
#43
Sometimes, I bid a poster good night. Sometimes, I prefer to bid a poster "link or slink."
merrily
Jan 2016
#51
I've been saying this a while. Cornel West is not a good surrogate, there are many better.
highprincipleswork
Jan 2016
#57
Not a chance Bernie would cut loose someone who has worked hard for him like that.
Kentonio
Jan 2016
#59
He doesn't need to "cut him loose"- just use him for something else besides outreach to black folk
Empowerer
Jan 2016
#62