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Bernie Sanders Struggles To Say Why He Doesn't Support Reparations [View all] ProudToBeLiberal Jan 2016 OP

This is the real news about the POC vote. highprincipleswork Jan 2016 #1

I await to hear how O'Malley and HRC struggle to speak to this issue. NO candidate supports them roguevalley Jan 2016 #109

I've seen you post this same link about 6 times. Are you black? Number23 Jan 2016 #141

Bernie "struggles"? LOL. Hardly. 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #2

But just like with everything else, notice that position is only an issue for Sanders whatchamacallit Jan 2016 #10

the talking point is "he is the one claiming to be a revolutionary , the others aren't" m-lekktor Jan 2016 #14

Idiotic whatchamacallit Jan 2016 #23

I agree. nt m-lekktor Jan 2016 #31

This message was self-deleted by its author Empowerer Jan 2016 #186

Reasonable position, HRC and MoM aren't proffering the improbable can get through congress uponit7771 Jan 2016 #161

Hillarians are literally 'banking' on an "ignorant electorate". It's downright insulting to voters. 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #16

I dont support it either! Nt Logical Jan 2016 #3

Lol. cali Jan 2016 #4

Neither did Obama so... draa Jan 2016 #5

He seems to do that a lot, not answer the actual question. MeNMyVolt Jan 2016 #6

And where does Hillary stand on reparations? HerbChestnut Jan 2016 #7

She's not calling for a political revolution. The onus is on Bernie Sanders. Nt ProudToBeLiberal Jan 2016 #8

Oh please. HerbChestnut Jan 2016 #18

Yes we can. nt ProudToBeLiberal Jan 2016 #20

Hillary disagrees with you. HerbChestnut Jan 2016 #24

Viva la revolucion! nt ProudToBeLiberal Jan 2016 #26

I see, because of some campaign rhetoric, only Sanders has to state positions or answer questions whatchamacallit Jan 2016 #19

Bernie Sanders is styling himself as a revolutionary. He's calling for a political revolution. nt ProudToBeLiberal Jan 2016 #30

Which means what? whatchamacallit Jan 2016 #34

It means Bernie Sanders is either a hypocrite or just another typical establishment candidate ProudToBeLiberal Jan 2016 #38

You guys are getting into Palin territory whatchamacallit Jan 2016 #42

Just like Sanders,you squirm your way out of addressing the main points to my argument. nt ProudToBeLiberal Jan 2016 #45

Bullshit whatchamacallit Jan 2016 #48

Please let it all out. Go on...nt ProudToBeLiberal Jan 2016 #49

I'm done whatchamacallit Jan 2016 #50

Nice jab. I like your comeback. Can I have your permission and use it in the future? nt ProudToBeLiberal Jan 2016 #51

And you get to call for the terms of the revolution? That's a novel idea. highprincipleswork Jan 2016 #123

Bernie platform of economic justice, social justice Autumn Jan 2016 #44

"Political revolution" for good ideas. SMC22307 Jan 2016 #43

How do you figure? cheapdate Jan 2016 #53

He's styling himself as a revolutionary. nt ProudToBeLiberal Jan 2016 #55

Yes. He's called for a political revolution. cheapdate Jan 2016 #88

Do you support the redistribution of wealth? nt ProudToBeLiberal Jan 2016 #89

Sure. cheapdate Jan 2016 #91

Do you support the Warren Buffet rule? nt ProudToBeLiberal Jan 2016 #93

I'm not a tax policy wonk. cheapdate Jan 2016 #105

Thank you for answering my questions. You are a good dude. nt ProudToBeLiberal Jan 2016 #107

So taking back control from the monied elite has to include your pet issue first? Vincardog Jan 2016 #73

Oh I get it, he needs to call for a revolution on EVERYTHING does he now? highprincipleswork Jan 2016 #121

Of course not. But knowing what he thinks is worth fighting for and what (and who) he thinks aren't Empowerer Jan 2016 #136

It's equally on all of them Ken Burch Jan 2016 #153

The OP is about SBS not answering the question, not HRC. MeNMyVolt Jan 2016 #11

Nice dodge. HerbChestnut Jan 2016 #17

Not a dodge. MeNMyVolt Jan 2016 #25

In this case it's fair. HerbChestnut Jan 2016 #27

President Obama didn't call for a political revolution in 2008. nt ProudToBeLiberal Jan 2016 #32

Keep harping on this. HerbChestnut Jan 2016 #33

si se puede! nt ProudToBeLiberal Jan 2016 #36

Again, Hillary disagrees. HerbChestnut Jan 2016 #37

u mad, bro? nt ProudToBeLiberal Jan 2016 #39

No, I'm not mad at all. HerbChestnut Jan 2016 #46

I'm glad to see you are not mad. It's bad for your health if your are constantly angry. nt ProudToBeLiberal Jan 2016 #47

Some of her supporters are still stuck in Stage 4. Fawke Em Jan 2016 #95

You are free to spam Chuck Todd with what R B Garr Jan 2016 #149

No. My post had nothing to do with Bernie. Fawke Em Jan 2016 #154

No, your spam has to do with you. R B Garr Jan 2016 #156

It's because they can't win on the issues. draa Jan 2016 #130

Because Sanders - Not Clinton - is perfectly happy to propose all kinds of baldguy Jan 2016 #182

Right kind of like this? pinebox Jan 2016 #9

All he has to say is "for the same reasons Barack Obama and Bill Clinton do." Vinca Jan 2016 #12

Which had nothing to do with revolution uponit7771 Jan 2016 #162

He's being realistic on this KingFlorez Jan 2016 #13

Or maybe he's not as "pie in the sky" as many people make him out to be. HerbChestnut Jan 2016 #28

And some black folk are asking why that line is drawn at what we are asking for? Empowerer Jan 2016 #56

okay I have a few questions frst being who is going pay these reparations? azurnoir Jan 2016 #195

This post does not deserve a response Empowerer Jan 2016 #199

IOW you do not have any answers? who will be responsible for paying reparations? azurnoir Jan 2016 #200

Of course, realistic on reparations but not on SP... not a consistent position uponit7771 Jan 2016 #163

Oh, it's pretty damn consistent with white populism for the past century+ Recursion Jan 2016 #171

Yeap, and that's why Sanders is at 21% with black and Hispanic communities... revolution with an uponit7771 Jan 2016 #172

okay I'll ask you- who exactly will be paying the reparations? azurnoir Jan 2016 #203

When will they ask Hillary why she doesn't support them? beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #15

HRC isn't calling for a revolution, that's Sanders is uponit7771 Jan 2016 #164

If you're actually concerned with reparations and not just exploiting the issue her position matters beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #170

So, because she doesn't believe Bettie Jan 2016 #188

Hey Toad. He doesn't need to, if the "Liberal bastions" Like Obama Clinton and Hillary Autumn Jan 2016 #21

The estasblishment isn't calling for a revolution against itself. Revolution with an asterisk is not uponit7771 Jan 2016 #173

There's a difference between a revolution and a political revolution. Autumn Jan 2016 #193

either one the establishment loses uponit7771 Jan 2016 #197

Then the people win and can get "free stuff" instead of just the corporations and the 1% Autumn Jan 2016 #198

This message was self-deleted by its author MeNMyVolt Jan 2016 #22

I'm against Reparations kcjohn1 Jan 2016 #29

So, you were against reparations for Japanese Americans who were put into internment camps? nt ProudToBeLiberal Jan 2016 #35

Logic would demand you ask the president these burning questions whatchamacallit Jan 2016 #40

Please do not put words into kcjohn's mouth. nt ProudToBeLiberal Jan 2016 #41

Irony. (nt) jeff47 Jan 2016 #60

whatchamacallit is a good dude. Please stop making fun of him. nt ProudToBeLiberal Jan 2016 #63

I'm making fun of you. jeff47 Jan 2016 #67

What if I told you that you've wounded my feelings. nt ProudToBeLiberal Jan 2016 #79

Enough to alert? pintobean Jan 2016 #83

Jeff is my friend. nt ProudToBeLiberal Jan 2016 #85

Those were paid to the people actually in the camps jeff47 Jan 2016 #52

Wow, you seriously are going to make that argument? Next, you're going to say we should ignore ProudToBeLiberal Jan 2016 #54

Nope. I'm pointing out there was no "Who gets the money?" problem to solve. jeff47 Jan 2016 #59

Please stop putting words in my mouth ProudToBeLiberal Jan 2016 #61

You mean like you just did to me? jeff47 Jan 2016 #65

I see you are trying to avoid responsibility for your words ProudToBeLiberal Jan 2016 #68

Do you always post to yourself? jeff47 Jan 2016 #69

I thought we had something special. Why are you giving me the cold shoulder? nt ProudToBeLiberal Jan 2016 #72

Native Americans. Chinese railroad workers. Poor white Appalachian miners. SMC22307 Jan 2016 #77

do you want to return all the land we took from them? sadoldgirl Jan 2016 #80

I never said that. nt ProudToBeLiberal Jan 2016 #81

I think the difference would be reparations were only given to people who were in the camps cherokeeprogressive Jan 2016 #82

They were actually put in internment camps and had their shit taken Travis_0004 Jan 2016 #179

The measures you point to will help some black people to a point Empowerer Jan 2016 #70

+1 gollygee Jan 2016 #202

If you can find an actual person who lived under slavery... TipTok Jan 2016 #140

What do reparations have to do with slavery? Recursion Jan 2016 #142

I was talking about the article in the OP... TipTok Jan 2016 #143

I do not recall that he limited his case to 1950-60s actions aikoaiko Jan 2016 #175

Does Clinton support reparations? mhatrw Jan 2016 #57

Bernie Sanders is styling himself as a revolutionary. He's calling for a political revolution. nt ProudToBeLiberal Jan 2016 #58

And? mhatrw Jan 2016 #64

Yes. nt ProudToBeLiberal Jan 2016 #71

LOL mhatrw Jan 2016 #78

Revolution with an asterisk is not a revolution. uponit7771 Jan 2016 #174

You've put your finger on the problem, perhaps unintentionally . . . Empowerer Jan 2016 #76

Wrong. I'm all for reparations. I'm also for a $20 minimum wage and a $200 maximum wage. mhatrw Jan 2016 #84

He needs to explain it because it completely contradicts what he says he stands for Empowerer Jan 2016 #87

You mean their positions as slave master apologists? nt mhatrw Jan 2016 #131

Wrong. It's a fairness issue. MANY groups... SMC22307 Jan 2016 #92

All of those groups are certainly welcome to advocate for reparations on their behalf Empowerer Jan 2016 #97

LOL! And that is precisely why you'll get nowhere with reparations. SMC22307 Jan 2016 #108

No one Bobbie Jo Jan 2016 #118

I'm sure the Native Americans would, disagree with you on that. Blue_In_AK Jan 2016 #126

I'm not participating in Oppression Olympics with you, or anyone. SMC22307 Jan 2016 #127

Not even close. nt Bobbie Jo Jan 2016 #128

Look, I know it must sting that Obama doesn't support reparations. SMC22307 Jan 2016 #129

You're out of your depth here. Bobbie Jo Jan 2016 #134

LOL Oh, Bobbie Jo. SMC22307 Jan 2016 #135

Anytime I see someone chime in with the term "Oppression Olympics" I IMMEDIATELY Number23 Jan 2016 #145

You mean like Bravenak? SMC22307 Jan 2016 #146

Do you literally have dreams about her? Number23 Jan 2016 #147

Anyone who shits up and down a message board I truly enjoy... SMC22307 Jan 2016 #152

Yes, we all "saw" how much you fixated, I mean "enjoyed" her Number23 Jan 2016 #155

Sounds like you're keeping tabs on me and the content of my posts. SMC22307 Jan 2016 #157

I could have the Hubble telescope and still not keep as close tabs as you do on brave Number23 Jan 2016 #158

Remember... SMC22307 Jan 2016 #159

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Jan 2016 #148

ouch. nt m-lekktor Jan 2016 #181

Funny how you think that the people and things YOU want to support with your taxes Empowerer Jan 2016 #137

I guess s/he's a bit too busy to answer this post of yours. And yes it does speak "volumes" Number23 Jan 2016 #150

+1 uponit7771 Jan 2016 #176

You are obviously confused. Bernie's political revolution is a call for a Autumn Jan 2016 #94

Well said. Zorra Jan 2016 #185

No he didn't. ypsfonos Jan 2016 #62

Next you're going to tell me that the fight for Civil Rights wasn't a struggle. nt ProudToBeLiberal Jan 2016 #66

Proud to be Iggy Knorr Jan 2016 #74

Proud to be ProudToBeLiberal Jan 2016 #75

Orwellian? mhatrw Jan 2016 #86

does Hillary or MOM? Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #90

Revolution/This is about Bernie/Start your own thread beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #96

I know, right Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #98

Best to just let it sink. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #100

. Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #101

... ProudToBeLiberal Jan 2016 #102

I'd like to see that practice return. nt cherokeeprogressive Jan 2016 #103

Me too, it's a good one. :) beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #104

Thank you for having my back. nt ProudToBeLiberal Jan 2016 #99

becaue obviously, Hillary cannot run on the issues. Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #110

Her supporters do seem to believe that, don't they? beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #112

...."it's the issue of anecdotal tales of Bernie Supporters saying nasty things on facebook!" Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #113

You know what it reminds me of? beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #114

... Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #117

More puff pieces! Polls! Celebrity endorsements! Baby kissing! beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #120

This Youtuber doesn't think it's a great idea either.......for what it's worth nc4bo Jan 2016 #106

Reparations will never happen and it's time for people who demand it to give up. JRLeft Jan 2016 #111

Gay marriage was never going to happen either. Neither was desegregation or women's suffrage or Empowerer Jan 2016 #138

Gay marriage wont bankrupt the country? Travis_0004 Jan 2016 #180

I agree that's a legitimate issue and it's reasonable, but reparations JRLeft Jan 2016 #184

Since when does a civil rights gain have to be applied to every single person before it can be Empowerer Jan 2016 #189

I understand exactly what you are saying. There's always going to be a reason not JRLeft Jan 2016 #191

Neither will SP then, the inconsistency is gob smacking uponit7771 Jan 2016 #165

I watched this live Nanjeanne Jan 2016 #115

Chuck Todd has the IQ of a turnip... and that might be too generous. InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2016 #178

Why any Democrat Red Mountain Jan 2016 #116

The subject is being used to portray Sanders to have a questionable commitment Jefferson23 Jan 2016 #119

+1,Then revolution shouldn't be part of his campaign, I'd accept that uponit7771 Jan 2016 #177

Ok. Let me please elaborate on what I agree with on this subject as the Jefferson23 Jan 2016 #192

Interesting that once again it's about "slavery" reparations Recursion Jan 2016 #122

+1 uponit7771 Jan 2016 #166

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Jan 2016 #124

Bernie has the same position on reparations as Hillary. Blue_In_AK Jan 2016 #125

Yes true mvd Jan 2016 #144

I appreciate your rational, balanced comment Empowerer Jan 2016 #160

Thanks; I appreciate your comments mvd Jan 2016 #201

So will SP!!! His inconsistency is gob smacking!!! uponit7771 Jan 2016 #167

Single payer is much more doable than reparations. Blue_In_AK Jan 2016 #194

Reparations is easier than SP by a long shot, equalize public school cost ... set a floor uponit7771 Jan 2016 #196

I think the heirs of the plantation owners NowSam Jan 2016 #132

Bernie should get reparations for being subjected to such stupid attacks. Vattel Jan 2016 #133

Reparations are a joke... TipTok Jan 2016 #139

For whom? tia uponit7771 Jan 2016 #168

In the context of the conversation... TipTok Jan 2016 #190

Wow, Bernie got owned. He was HOSTILE and R B Garr Jan 2016 #151

Yeap, Clinton & Obama aren't claiming to be revolutionaries with no congress behind them Sanders is uponit7771 Jan 2016 #169

ha ha. The fact that Sanders did not answer his guestion was so obvious, even todd picked this up... riversedge Jan 2016 #183

I'd support specific cases, such as land theft outlined here Tarc Jan 2016 #187