2016 Postmortem

polly7

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111. I hadn't thought about it so in depth,

Tue Jan 26, 2016, 10:39 AM

Jan 2016

great point merrily, you're right .... the headlines would be very damaging. Of course I'd think "why put myself through the potential trouble and loss". It does make you wonder why any woman stand by and allow these claims to be made in the first place.

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Hillary seems manic [View all] CoffeeCat Jan 2016 OP

You're right! Loud. elias49 Jan 2016 #1

Well, she's behind the eight ball CoffeeCat Jan 2016 #4

Now she's shouting again elias49 Jan 2016 #16

Manic doesn't mean loud AgingAmerican Jan 2016 #110

It means inauthentic. Go Bernie... the real deal! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2016 #115

It's just Hillary trying to discover her inner-Bernie! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2016 #114

Strident. DiehardLiberal Jan 2016 #22

noooooooo--you're kidding, right? she's passionate & revved up & her policies are wrong zazen Jan 2016 #45

I just thought she wasn't acting like herself. It seemed weird. Punkingal Jan 2016 #58

ikr... and what was up with all that weird arm-waving? It was like she was on the deck of an aircraft carrier directing F-16's. InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2016 #116

Animated and passionate? LOL! She's come across as decidedly unpleasant in 2 primaries now. merrily Jan 2016 #76

"strident" and "powerful woman" are dangerous to use in same sentence zazen Jan 2016 #88

I did not use those words, and I don't see her as "high-spirited" AT ALL. merrily Jan 2016 #91

poster #22 did, not you, to whom I was originally responding zazen Jan 2016 #94

"People need to be quiet about her tone." Sanders' tone gets criticized every time! merrily Jan 2016 #96

If women want to be viewed as having the same strengths and capabilities as men polly7 Jan 2016 #98

I agree, polly, but think the damage is greater than your post suggests. merrily Jan 2016 #106

I hadn't thought about it so in depth, polly7 Jan 2016 #111

I've never owned a big business but I served as part of a hiring committee in a big merrily Jan 2016 #112

I imagine there are a lot of things considered during the hiring stage. polly7 Jan 2016 #119

In fairness to my former employer, I should add that we tried FOR diversity. merrily Jan 2016 #127

I'm glad there are people like you and your employer that did value diversity and made it happen. polly7 Jan 2016 #129

Couldn't have said it better Polly... what is more sexist than holding women to a different standard than men? InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2016 #118

Hey, you DID say that better. polly7 Jan 2016 #122

You are mis-using the concept of double standards and minimizing women's reality zazen Jan 2016 #131

No, I've not done anything you've accused me of, and you are doing women no favors. merrily Jan 2016 #132

What cause? Portraying women as not able to be held to the same standards? polly7 Jan 2016 #133

Yeah, me and a scholarly tradition on gendered expectations. It's a conspiracy. zazen Jan 2016 #138

No, not a conspiracy at all, just the reality of not holding her to the same standards polly7 Jan 2016 #140

Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2016 #141

THAT I can agree with--however, I think it might have been natural nervousness zazen Jan 2016 #145

Hmmmm - I don't see "strident" as being a sexist term applied to women. "Shrill" yes, "strident" no. kath Jan 2016 #144

long history of "strident" being used disproportionately against strong women zazen Jan 2016 #146

She sure is waving her arms around a lot. cherokeeprogressive Jan 2016 #2

She stole the arm-waving from Bernie, John Poet Jan 2016 #68

Okay... now THAT was funny! Gotta love Bernie... often imitated...but neva duplicated! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2016 #121

Very. Purveyor Jan 2016 #3

She's defensive as hell! Awknid Jan 2016 #5

I guess the softballs aren't soft enough. winter is coming Jan 2016 #10

O'Malley was pretty hyper too. cwydro Jan 2016 #6

That kinda creeped me out too. PyaarRevolution Jan 2016 #43

She seems angry and desperate (nt) CoffeeCat Jan 2016 #7

Sexist crap. Sanders was authoritative though, right? KittyWampus Jan 2016 #12

I'm a female, I assure you I'm not sexist. CoffeeCat Jan 2016 #14

Your sex has nothing to do with your spouting sexist crap. She sounds perfectly normal KittyWampus Jan 2016 #30

Saying that someone is being/acting CoffeeCat Jan 2016 #39

Remember the one where someone said Hillary John Poet Jan 2016 #69

No worries CoffeeCat, crying "sexism" is the last refuge for those on a sinking ship... the U.S.S. Hillary. InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2016 #123

Really, I think Clinton and O'Malley both sounded like they were snorting Red Bull Matariki Jan 2016 #70

Bingo DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #85

You certainly aren't commenting on anything substantive. BainsBane Jan 2016 #75

+1 ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #77

+1 eom BlueMTexpat Jan 2016 #78

This. Starry Messenger Jan 2016 #81

+1 betsuni Jan 2016 #83

Your nemeses won't touch you or your argument. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #86

This, indeed �� Empowerer Jan 2016 #89

good post treestar Jan 2016 #117

She's invited every 'well-earned' criticism upon herself. polly7 Jan 2016 #126

This message was self-deleted by its author Awknid Jan 2016 #15

Very plastic and hollow.....scripted cliche! Segami Jan 2016 #29

she doesn't know how to do it any other way....short of crying.... virtualobserver Jan 2016 #35

She's saving that for later in the week. n/t winter is coming Jan 2016 #55

ikr... can't wait for the coming tear-fest. InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2016 #124

Wow Empowerer Jan 2016 #90

This will feed into people's (already) negative impression of her. Bonobo Jan 2016 #8

Dave the Handler at town hall rehearsal: Dial it back. Divernan Jan 2016 #72

It's phony showmanship. n/t Avalux Jan 2016 #9

Delusional. She appears normal as did O'malley & Sanders KittyWampus Jan 2016 #11

She DOES seem a little delusional elias49 Jan 2016 #18

She's toned it down now CoffeeCat Jan 2016 #21

Hillary is not yelling, they are making stuff up trueblue2007 Jan 2016 #22

She's doing great. All our candidates are doing great. MariaThinks Jan 2016 #24

The fake laugh and wiggling are OTT berni_mccoy Jan 2016 #13

Like her,yes, the long & hardy laugh & who ever coached her to 'open your eyes!', those should go. Sunlei Jan 2016 #62

What was with the yelling and arm waving?? Autumn Jan 2016 #17

Too much coffee? elias49 Jan 2016 #20

She was excited for sure. Autumn Jan 2016 #27

LOL! Segami Jan 2016 #49

Yeah,it's not like Sanders doesn't point constantly KittyWampus Jan 2016 #33

Oh he does it all the time, I find it endearing. Hillary doesn't do that Autumn Jan 2016 #38

Showing us her PASSION! n/t winter is coming Jan 2016 #34

you didn't say that when BERNIE WAS YELLING !!!! trueblue2007 Jan 2016 #19

It was normal for Bernie Awknid Jan 2016 #25

bull shit. your comment seems SEXIST to me. trueblue2007 Jan 2016 #50

When he does it, it's passion. When she does it, she's manic. Empowerer Jan 2016 #26

Funny how that works, huh? 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #79

And they insist it is not BlueMTexpat Jan 2016 #80

+1/nt DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #87

Agreed: I'm embarrassed of some of my candidate's supporters right now zazen Jan 2016 #134

The word "Energized" did well in focus groups n/t arcane1 Jan 2016 #28

Was there a big bass drum on stage? Paulie Jan 2016 #32

Man silenttigersong Jan 2016 #31

its what stark raving panic looks like. nt restorefreedom Jan 2016 #36

Take a fucking BREATH, Hillary. My goodness. cherokeeprogressive Jan 2016 #37

At first I thought she was on something but now marlakay Jan 2016 #40

That's probably right CoffeeCat Jan 2016 #47

Looked like it. Nyan Jan 2016 #52

I just want to point out that CNN retrowire Jan 2016 #41

She had to sit there for 45 mins drinking red bull Ferd Berfel Jan 2016 #42

:>)))))))))))))))))))))))) pangaia Jan 2016 #48

Turn this into an OP please. draa Jan 2016 #53

BWHAHAHAHAHA..... Segami Jan 2016 #54

One more Red Bull and she was ready for launch... Segami Jan 2016 #57

Heeheheheh!!!!! 840high Jan 2016 #65

That's what the congress will be saying to Bernie Sanders... FrenchieCat Jan 2016 #63

Is that the new slogan? "No we can't"? I thought it was "It's my turn or else" Betty Karlson Jan 2016 #71

They aren't mutually exclusive Ferd Berfel Jan 2016 #149

Hillary Clinton is not only Presidential asuhornets Jan 2016 #44

Pray tell - how is one presidential? What 840high Jan 2016 #66

+1! eom BlueMTexpat Jan 2016 #82

Staged? well of course but you know. retrowire Jan 2016 #46

Ok. n/t zappaman Jan 2016 #51

Yes, thank you! It was bizarre. Punkingal Jan 2016 #56

She was assertive and in good spirits..... FrenchieCat Jan 2016 #59

That's how I saw it too. lovemydog Jan 2016 #61

Shes ready and focused. We're so used to Obamas 'style', I'm going to miss him! Sunlei Jan 2016 #60

Hilary seems magic quickesst Jan 2016 #64

Oh yes - especially when she 840high Jan 2016 #67

Oooooh... quickesst Jan 2016 #84

I don't think she looked manic. Kentonio Jan 2016 #73

Ah, yes, another "policy" disagreement BainsBane Jan 2016 #74

This thread is a sure sign that Hillary did a good job Empowerer Jan 2016 #92

So the lady is manic and needs to calm down. NCTraveler Jan 2016 #93

"By their fruit you will recognize them..."/nt DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #95

Please explain Armstead Jan 2016 #120

Why should she "calm down." MineralMan Jan 2016 #97

What's good for the gander should be good for the goose, no? polly7 Jan 2016 #99

I haven't criticized Sanders' demeanor. MineralMan Jan 2016 #100

Maybe you haven't ............ there have been hundreds of posts on here of others doing so. polly7 Jan 2016 #102

I do not read every post on DU. Nobody does. MineralMan Jan 2016 #105

Yeah whatever. nt. polly7 Jan 2016 #107

Thank you. MineralMan Jan 2016 #108

Oh, come on, now. No one has to read every post on DU to know that Sanders has been criticized for merrily Jan 2016 #136

Not by me. I like energy from candidates. MineralMan Jan 2016 #137

Your reply has nothing to do with my post. I'll take that as indicating you agree with my post, merrily Jan 2016 #139

All sorts of people are making all sorts of statements MineralMan Jan 2016 #142

My post was indeed about you, though you chose to reply about candidates. merrily Jan 2016 #143

Silly Polly. The charge of "sexism" means that no woman could ever be referred to as Bonobo Jan 2016 #101

Heck, I feel most of those things at least once a week, not sure what other terms polly7 Jan 2016 #104

Hillary doesn't sound normal is how I would describe her... like she's taking acting classes or something... doesn't sound genuine, like Bernie. InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2016 #130

I felt like I was scolded, commercial free, for 45 minutes FlatBaroque Jan 2016 #103

"Scolded"? Bonobo Jan 2016 #109

PC Principal!! FlatBaroque Jan 2016 #113

Seriously... I'm gettin tired of being talked down to by Hillary. InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2016 #128

Syracuse online poll.... I know, I know, but it does show inclincation libdem4life Jan 2016 #125

She was squawking at her questioners last night Rosa Luxemburg Jan 2016 #135

Sanders seems shrill and hysterical. LanternWaste Jan 2016 #147

kick! Segami Jan 2016 #148