2016 Postmortem

brooklynite

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38. Not a chance...

Reply to Dawson Leery (Reply #1)

Tue Jan 26, 2016, 10:02 AM

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How Iowa Hijacked Our Democracy [View all] Beacool Jan 2016 OP

Iowa may lose it's first status. Dawson Leery Jan 2016 #1

Says who exactly? Kentonio Jan 2016 #33

Not a chance... brooklynite Jan 2016 #38

I think it is time to review IA and NH being first. hrmjustin Jan 2016 #2

In my state the voters decided against a primary. sadoldgirl Jan 2016 #3

yea I just love a system where those in the military defending our rights can't vote dsc Jan 2016 #23

Personally, I've never understood this "First-in-the-Nation" voting... KansDem Jan 2016 #4

Wouldn't work. NCTraveler Jan 2016 #6

That's exactly right. draa Jan 2016 #8

I believe the current system is extremely flawed. NCTraveler Jan 2016 #10

Of course it is but that wasn't what was being discussed. draa Jan 2016 #11

It's what the op is about. Nt NCTraveler Jan 2016 #14

True, but the discussion you were having was draa Jan 2016 #16

You and all the other Hillary supporters who are watching the 'flawed' system defeat your candidate. Kentonio Jan 2016 #34

I have no idea what your point is. NCTraveler Jan 2016 #41

I'm saying it's very amusing that the people lining up to insult the Iowa caucus system Kentonio Jan 2016 #44

I have posts on this very board from well before Sanders put his hat in the ring.... NCTraveler Jan 2016 #46

You also call yourself a progressive despite not supporting the progressive candidate in the race Kentonio Jan 2016 #48

There is simply nothing to disagree with when it comes to the primary process. NCTraveler Jan 2016 #49

It is not 'provably oppressive', that is nonsense. Kentonio Jan 2016 #51

Did you forget the sarcasm smilie? MoonRiver Jan 2016 #36

No. NCTraveler Jan 2016 #42

Other countries do it. Beacool Jan 2016 #12

"Other countries" rarely let ordinary voters select candidates for the General Election. brooklynite Jan 2016 #39

Really? Beacool Jan 2016 #53

I agree for the most part. NCTraveler Jan 2016 #43

I've been saying it for a long time. NCTraveler Jan 2016 #5

That and electoral. Popular votes should be the ticket. Iliyah Jan 2016 #7

Caucuses are weird, it's true. MineralMan Jan 2016 #9

Yes, but that worked in another era. Beacool Jan 2016 #13

People have always had to work. MineralMan Jan 2016 #17

Not a bad analysis. The caucus system isn't a model system that we should advocate everywhere... cascadiance Jan 2016 #15

Good post! eom Frustratedlady Jan 2016 #18

All good points. Beacool Jan 2016 #22

great post - I think of it as Iowa and NH really vetting the candidates karynnj Jan 2016 #31

I agree. Missouri switched to a primary system and I miss the caucuses. wilsonbooks Jan 2016 #19

There's also the issue of access for the disabled. MoonRiver Jan 2016 #40

You may have a point. In Minnesota, however, all caucus locations MineralMan Jan 2016 #50

completely disagree karynnj Jan 2016 #20

I see your point. Beacool Jan 2016 #25

I was suspicious of the caucuses until I watched the CSPAN coverage that focused on two districts karynnj Jan 2016 #28

As a political exercise it is fascinating. Beacool Jan 2016 #30

Perhaps its actually a more accurate reflection of the current state of politics. DaGimpster Jan 2016 #56

That's great that you are able and willing to participate. Beacool Jan 2016 #57

I don't necessarily disagree with you. DaGimpster Jan 2016 #58

I see caucuses as an exercise in democracy cali Jan 2016 #21

yea the military members who can't vote because they are deployed on our behalf dsc Jan 2016 #24

Exactly and not a representative democracy but the real true thing nt karynnj Jan 2016 #29

Pssst. Your subject line describes DWS to a "T". cherokeeprogressive Jan 2016 #26

Shouldn't we have known better? You know, like Homeowners??? Motown_Johnny Jan 2016 #27

I'm sure that you also believe superdelegates are undemocratic. Flying Squirrel Jan 2016 #32

And they should all be held on the same day treestar Jan 2016 #35

I think phased primaries are good on some level. Perhaps, though... Armstead Jan 2016 #47

What rubbish. Caucuses are just as 'democratic' as primaries. Caucuses may not have KingCharlemagne Jan 2016 #37

And if somehow Clinton runs into trouble in South Carolina, we'll be hearing.... Armstead Jan 2016 #45

This is not about this election or the 2008 election either. Beacool Jan 2016 #54

I tend to agree Armstead Jan 2016 #59

Caucuses were a large part of Obama winning the election in 2008 artislife Jan 2016 #52

Every time a group's candidate doesn't get their way, people cast stones down on my state. EOM DaGimpster Jan 2016 #55