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Showing Original Post only (View all)Avg health care spend is $6,125 (working age) and $3,628 (child) but Bernie claims you only pay $466 [View all]
For a 2 parent 2 child family that's $20k on average.
https://www.cms.gov/research-statistics-data-and-systems/statistics-trends-and-reports/nationalhealthexpenddata/nhe-fact-sheet.html
But according to Bernie, you only pay $466 per family in taxes for $20k of estimated costs.
Last year, the average working family paid $4,955 in premiums and $1,318 in deductibles to private health insurance companies. Under this plan, a family of four earning $50,000 would pay just $466 per year to the single-payer program, amounting to a savings of over $5,800 for that family each year.
https://berniesanders.com/issues/medicare-for-all/
Where do the costs magically disappear to?
If a used car salesman was offering me this deal, I would walk away...
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Avg health care spend is $6,125 (working age) and $3,628 (child) but Bernie claims you only pay $466 [View all]
hill2016
Jan 2016
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Ezra Klein: Bernie Sanders’s single-payer plan isn’t a plan at all - see link
Bill USA
Jan 2016
#106
I am all for single payer. But it's not doable unless we can win BOTH House & Senate. Without
Bill USA
Jan 2016
#111
Well, many here are happy to pay twice as much as necessary for healthcare...
Human101948
Jan 2016
#23
Where do the costs magically disappear to? We eliminate the middle-man, the insurance companies
arcane1
Jan 2016
#3
And in a single-payer system, that 20% of spending goes in your pocket instead of theirs.
arcane1
Jan 2016
#15
By not wasting money on insurance companies. You know this. Why pretend otherwise?
arcane1
Jan 2016
#70
Look at the ACA Medical Loss Ratio of 15‰ and subtract out costs for admin costs that will
Hoyt
Jan 2016
#28
It pretty much the same nowadays -- same claim form, same CPT/HCPCS codes, same diagnoses codes, etc
Hoyt
Jan 2016
#67
Pretty much the same. The appeal process for most claims is resubmitting the claim form with medical
Hoyt
Jan 2016
#75
Obviously, you don't. You are just making junk up. I know the requirements are different in Canada
Hoyt
Jan 2016
#80
As much as I've tried to avoid commenting in the GD:P forum, I would like to ask you a question
R.A. Ganoush
Jan 2016
#63
Honestly, Bernie could say it would cost $20 per family and most of his fans would believe it.
DanTex
Jan 2016
#25
Is there a particular tune you like to whistle while you walk past that place where they put
cherokeeprogressive
Jan 2016
#34
RIght out of "What's the matter with Kansas" now coming from HIllarry supporters
Ferd Berfel
Jan 2016
#35
It's amazing what happens when profit is not the first concern when it comes to health.
Vinca
Jan 2016
#37
So either Hillary's oppo research team really sucks, or there is nothing to throw at Sanders..
frylock
Jan 2016
#109
Doctors in the other countries don't have giant malpractice insurance premiums to pay
Vinca
Jan 2016
#89
I guess this must be an example of that "free college free health care!" stuff that Trump, Rubio
Autumn
Jan 2016
#52
In Canada, 2013, a Canadian family of four paid $11,320 (CAD) for public health care in taxes...
Agnosticsherbet
Jan 2016
#61
I like the idea of Medicare for All, but I want to know upfront what it will cost.
Agnosticsherbet
Jan 2016
#86