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In reply to the discussion: Why did Mrs. Greenspan Automatically Think of Hillary When She Saw This Ad? [View all]Rosa Luxemburg
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Why did Mrs. Greenspan Automatically Think of Hillary When She Saw This Ad? [View all]
sabrina 1
Jan 2016
OP
It is wrong. I love that poster but i disagree with using that term to describe her.
hrmjustin
Jan 2016
#19
She IS Mrs Greenspan, why would that be considered a smear other than the fact that Mr Greenspan
Dont call me Shirley
Jan 2016
#215
What about the OP and trying to turn the ad into a negative attack against Clinton? nt.
polly7
Jan 2016
#40
Awww ....... thank you. You too. Maybe after you get some rest you can find it. nt.
polly7
Jan 2016
#70
Polly is a woman who epitomizes strong women, never allowing anyone to emotionally
sabrina 1
Jan 2016
#190
Feminists all over the country have been calling out this 'faux feminism' USING women for political
sabrina 1
Jan 2016
#184
How sexist it is to try to protect a 'poor little woman' from full disclosure of possible biases,
sabrina 1
Jan 2016
#107
Lol! Sorry didn't get the sarcasm. But no harm done, it needs to be repeated as often as possible
sabrina 1
Jan 2016
#110
Exactly. I see "Mrs Greenspan" as a snarky way of pointing out the obvious biases she won't reveal
JonLeibowitz
Jan 2016
#111
The ties between Ms. Mitchell and her husband are important and although this bumps up against
Bonobo
Jan 2016
#56
Then spell it out with out the demeaning shorthand. Andrea Mitchell is odious in her own right.
Luminous Animal
Jan 2016
#67
Here's some more womansplaining, to say it is demeaning to address a woman as 'mrs.whoever' is to
sabrina 1
Jan 2016
#195
That's your experience and others are different, most of my married friends, all of them very strong
sabrina 1
Jan 2016
#229
And she is not Mrs. Greenspan. She is Andrea Mitchell, asshole in her own right. She will always
Luminous Animal
Jan 2016
#231
Of course it would be okay to use a simple and commonly understand word to identify any biases
sabrina 1
Jan 2016
#233
Yeah. And is so difficult to type… Andrea Mitchell wife of Alan Greenspan.
Luminous Animal
Jan 2016
#235
I expected exactly this polly, lol. Mission accomplished as they say. Thread got kicked, people
sabrina 1
Jan 2016
#244
Why is it demeaning? I do not feel demeaned when people call me Mrs. and my husband's last
JDPriestly
Jan 2016
#115
Which woman is being demeaned? And please, women are sick to death of the 'poor me, I'm a female,
sabrina 1
Jan 2016
#13
While trashing another human being you could at least use the name she goes by.
hrmjustin
Jan 2016
#27
How is it trashing a woman to address her by her husband's name? I have never been ashamed or
sabrina 1
Jan 2016
#38
Right. She is a journalist and her husband is Greenspan, I have no problem reminding
Autumn
Jan 2016
#57
For the same reason as I addressed Mitchell by her husband's name, it not be sexist. IT would inform
sabrina 1
Jan 2016
#230
I did say that. But in a much shorter way. So what is your objection to identifying her possible
sabrina 1
Jan 2016
#234
if I am not an asshole and my husband is not an asshole, I would prefer to be recognized by my own
Luminous Animal
Jan 2016
#79
As a woman, i have to say that if my husband was an asshole, there IS a way out, I would divorce him
sabrina 1
Jan 2016
#92
She is an asshole in her OWN RIGHT. No need to diminish her own assholeness by erasing her name.
Luminous Animal
Jan 2016
#98
Her name is Andrea Mitchell. Calling her Mrs. Greenspan presumes she is a mere extension of the MAN
Luminous Animal
Jan 2016
#32
During the 2008 campaign, I found myself in the embarrassing position of defending
Luminous Animal
Jan 2016
#44
Mr and Mrs Greenspan are public figures. The connection between Wall St and our so-called 'news'
sabrina 1
Jan 2016
#47
No woman is referred to Mrs. (husbands last name) unless that is THEIR CHOICE. NOBODY.
Luminous Animal
Jan 2016
#62
It's been a long, long time, but I think you are right because my Social Security card has my
JDPriestly
Jan 2016
#188
Would I be demeaning call Hillary Mrs. Clinton? I like Hillary and would not want to offend.
The Wielding Truth
Jan 2016
#73
Hillary Diane Rodham Clinton uses Clinton in her full name, so no, it would not be demeaning. n/t
JTFrog
Jan 2016
#167
If we call her Mrs. Greenspan just how are we forcing her ("must") to change her name?
aspirant
Jan 2016
#177
No, she did NOT take his name when she got married - she only did it later, when she thought it
kath
Jan 2016
#224
The charge made that it was 'sexist and demeaning' to address women by their husband's name, The
sabrina 1
Jan 2016
#232
'pseudo feminist outrage'! exactly that nonsense has been rejected by a majority of feminists, many
sabrina 1
Jan 2016
#136
Not really. She demeaned herself when she married "Grand Nagus Greenspan."
TrollBuster9090
Jan 2016
#101
Thanks! Grand Nagus Greenspan works almost as well as Roger "Baron Harkonnen" Ailes.
TrollBuster9090
Jan 2016
#225
It seems as if Clinton is suggesting, she can take their money and it's meaningless.
Jefferson23
Jan 2016
#7
She revealed herself. How cosy the relationship between our so-called 'news' media and Big Money.
sabrina 1
Jan 2016
#23
Shameless and I recall she did the same with Eliot Spitzer, who unfortunately was
Jefferson23
Jan 2016
#43
Yes, hypocrisy at its best, as Andrea tries to hide her connection to the now notorious
sabrina 1
Jan 2016
#54
Lol, many people don't know that Andrea is the wife of the notorious Alan Greenspan. As a woman who
sabrina 1
Jan 2016
#75
It sure makes it all more understandable for me, and yes ... you probably would have been!
polly7
Jan 2016
#82
No, you are fine. I actually am thrilled with the response frankly. To see people on DU actually
sabrina 1
Jan 2016
#100
If I hadn't seen 'Greenspan' in your post and then that strange first reaction to it,
polly7
Jan 2016
#181
What this is has now been identified by women all over the country as 'faux feminism'
sabrina 1
Jan 2016
#185
Mrs Greenspan? I suppose I can see both sides of how that is used to mock her and
Jefferson23
Jan 2016
#77
She and he are public figures. She has reported on people like Elliot Spitzer, the Sherriff of
sabrina 1
Jan 2016
#87
People are entitled to their own opinions. I am of the opinion that language is for the purpose
sabrina 1
Jan 2016
#132
Mrs Greenspan (my free choice) is free to call herself Andrea Mitchell anytime.
aspirant
Jan 2016
#173
Is she or is she not married to Alan Greenspan? I don't CARE whether she has adapted the name
sabrina 1
Jan 2016
#183
No you don't get it. My priorities are to see the best possible Representative of the People
sabrina 1
Jan 2016
#193
Well, normally if a woman wants to go by her own name, I'm fine with that. But when a woman
sabrina 1
Jan 2016
#61
Most people now think "Wall Street sycophant" when they see the name Hillary.
reformist2
Jan 2016
#29
Bernie's new ad is apparently hitting a nerve. It didn't even need to mention Hillary
99th_Monkey
Jan 2016
#64
I don't think it's fair to single out how they are using women for political purposes.
Bonobo
Jan 2016
#138
Absolutely full disclosure when you are in a position of trust. I wonder why people think
sabrina 1
Jan 2016
#108
I like that Mrs Greenspan actually made the connection for anyone who didn't make it
sabrina 1
Jan 2016
#112
If you don't understand the disrespect then you are incapable of understanding my argument.
Motown_Johnny
Jan 2016
#154
The reason you can't explain is because it is not demeaning to use the word Mrs, nor has it
sabrina 1
Jan 2016
#226
sabrina, do you have a link to that clip, please? I saw a snippet of it on the evening "news" and
kath
Jan 2016
#93
I saw it on the news too, and haven't seen a clip yet, but I'm sure someone will put it up on
sabrina 1
Jan 2016
#97
Thanks so much. bernie handled himself very well (like he always does with the media assholes)
kath
Jan 2016
#223
Yes,and Mrs Greenspan inadvertently filled in the blanks that Bernie left out! Lol!
sabrina 1
Jan 2016
#102
It is a brilliant ad, never mentioned Hillary or her campaign. Mrs Greenspan did though
sabrina 1
Jan 2016
#105
I love the ad. Mrs. Greenspan may have a point of view. Anyway, Bernie has dressed her
JDPriestly
Jan 2016
#114
Lol, well, this is why I believe in full disclosure when someone is in her position as a 'trusted'
sabrina 1
Jan 2016
#116
It mentions "Goldman Sachs" and "Speaking Fees" so that's obviously Hillary....
Spitfire of ATJ
Jan 2016
#118
Well, yes, it did. But if Hillary were the ONLY one doing it, it wouldn't be a problem.
sabrina 1
Jan 2016
#120
In Mrs. Greenspan's circle it's no big deal to get a six figure fee for flapping your gums.
Spitfire of ATJ
Jan 2016
#128
Lol, it did actually. She actually did for Bernie, connected Hillary to Wall St, what he didn't do
sabrina 1
Jan 2016
#194
I consider it sexist and demeaning to all the women who are ALSO women in their right, like me and
sabrina 1
Jan 2016
#206
But Andrea Mitchell didn't choose to use her husband's name. It's about her choice.
cui bono
Jan 2016
#207
And many of us women did and have just been insulted and again NOT LISTENED TO here on DU
sabrina 1
Jan 2016
#209
Hey, Sid how are you doing?? Haven't seen you for a long time. Thanks for kicking my thread and
sabrina 1
Jan 2016
#210
Most people already know that Andrea Mitchell is married Alan Greenspan. She's never...
George II
Jan 2016
#218
I have a problem with our Corporate Media and all the Wall St connections that control
sabrina 1
Jan 2016
#228
Brother Sid! So good to see you here. You're back, I'm back, we're all back.
DisgustipatedinCA
Jan 2016
#243
Andrea Mitchell goes by her OWN name, why do you refer to her as "Mrs. Greenspan"?
George II
Jan 2016
#217
Lol! I love how people defend these people under the pretect that they are defending women.
sabrina 1
Feb 2016
#248