2016 Postmortem

thereismore

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42. What's this nonsense about finding if they were classified at the time?

Reply to ChisolmTrailDem (Original post)

Fri Jan 29, 2016, 05:42 PM

Jan 2016

I was told, and I believe, that it does not matter how it's labeled. All that matters is: Is it classified. And we got the answer to that today.

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BREAKING: State classifying 7 email chains as "Top Secret" ... Hmmmm... Emails strike again... [View all] ChisolmTrailDem Jan 2016 OP

And there you have it folks. floriduck Jan 2016 #1

Too sloppy to be president Voice for Peace Jan 2016 #98

K&R Arazi Jan 2016 #2

It was supposed to come out completely today jfern Jan 2016 #35

how fucking convenient. retrowire Jan 2016 #96

That would have unintended consequences. AtheistCrusader Jan 2016 #102

Agreed. MrChuck Jan 2016 #106

NO ONE should seek any elected position while under investigation, not even dog catcher. Hiraeth Jan 2016 #163

This is why I don't trust her with security. Health Wagon Jan 2016 #3

CBS: 22 "top secret" Hillary Clinton emails won't be released Jarqui Jan 2016 #4

Are the Republicans in control of the Obama Administration? Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #9

This explains why he had to have a private mano-a-mano with Bernie a couple days ago. Bernie... ChisolmTrailDem Jan 2016 #10

Bernie said they talked some about politics but I have no idea what that entailed. n/t Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #11

Apparently, the meeting was scheduled when they saw each other Jarqui Jan 2016 #13

My bad, Jarqui. You're right, I forgot about that. But, yes, it probably came up. nt ChisolmTrailDem Jan 2016 #16

That seems likely. I think Bernie knew this yesterday from the President. I think Hillary was thereismore Jan 2016 #48

i do find it interesting that it could not be handled in a phone call restorefreedom Jan 2016 #14

Oh yeah, that meeting was not about exchanging pot roast recipes CoffeeCat Jan 2016 #160

The FOIA court case dictated Friday release of emails Jarqui Jan 2016 #12

Apparently there is no dispute that they were top secret or higher as the Obama Administration Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #17

I never understood why Obama let her do it. senz Jan 2016 #26

I'm not sure Obama knew Jarqui Jan 2016 #29

I do not think that Obama knew that she was using a home server awake Jan 2016 #34

Would you want someone like that on your cabinet? senz Jan 2016 #57

I really don't think there was anything sneaky or insubordinate about it passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #101

She "didn't have access to a secure email server?" senz Jan 2016 #107

The Secretary of state has never been set up with secure e-mail server access. passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #109

Secretary Kerry exclusively uses .gov email and uses government issued equipment to do askew Jan 2016 #112

Do you have any links to back this up? senz Jan 2016 #113

What? That's just not true. askew Jan 2016 #111

Thank you, it was getting a bit strange senz Jan 2016 #116

Yeah, I have no idea if they really support Bernie or not,but they definitely have their facts wrong askew Jan 2016 #129

I'm, uh, interesting. cui bono Jan 2016 #151

Well, yeah. senz Jan 2016 #155

I'm not sure where you are getting your information passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #153

I don't agree with you. 840high Jan 2016 #148

Perfectly fine with me. n/t passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #154

Home server with files "in the cloud" peacebird Jan 2016 #65

State makes the claim that the info wasn't classified at the time... TipTok Jan 2016 #39

Actually they're investigating that aspect per the OP. Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #41

That defense is no defense in legal sense, I hear. Classified is classified. This is getting really thereismore Jan 2016 #51

Even if they weren't classified at the time she received them draa Jan 2016 #86

I don't get it farleftlib Jan 2016 #20

There was a FOIA request for all 55,000- pages Jarqui Jan 2016 #27

Thank you for the explanation farleftlib Jan 2016 #32

I'm reliant on media like everybody and they're not the greatest Jarqui Jan 2016 #43

So you're saying 1300 emails are deemed to have contained classified info, and 22 of them thereismore Jan 2016 #54

22 in this batch of 2,000 pages were deemed to be top secret Jarqui Jan 2016 #60

So one IC guy said there was TOP SECRET information in her emails back in August. The second IC guy thereismore Jan 2016 #64

I have doubts it's done Jarqui Jan 2016 #66

Agreed. She will be lucky to get out of this without an indictment. She should suspend her campaign thereismore Jan 2016 #68

Unless she's in really really hot hot water, suspension is not in her DNA Jarqui Jan 2016 #83

She will never, ever suspend her campaign. cui bono Jan 2016 #152

It doesn't matter if it wasn't marked classified. askew Jan 2016 #114

I mostly agree Jarqui Jan 2016 #141

Here's a little more that came out today from the State Department Jarqui Jan 2016 #156

Thank you so much for that clarity of understanding. Paka Jan 2016 #133

So let's say there can be confusion about whether or not something is classified. thesquanderer Jan 2016 #162

additionally, there is the email found where Sullivan couldn't send her something over secure fax magical thyme Jan 2016 #99

My Question Too... n/t ChiciB1 Jan 2016 #135

They were supposed to release all by today jfern Jan 2016 #37

They went to court to asked for an extension of a month Jarqui Jan 2016 #45

Obama would sabotage Hillary's first primary?? senz Jan 2016 #24

The slow blade penetrates the shield. Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #33

Ah, maybe so. senz Jan 2016 #44

There are so many apt quotes MuseRider Jan 2016 #72

IF This Information Is Going To Be Something That Can ChiciB1 Jan 2016 #134

Short answer "yes". glinda Jan 2016 #56

The administration doesn't control what the intelligence agencies classify. napi21 Jan 2016 #63

I didn't know Obama was Republican. 840high Jan 2016 #147

It's 22 pinebox Jan 2016 #5

yup, they are trying to hold until after the first few states restorefreedom Jan 2016 #18

HRC (7/25/15) - "I did not send or get classified emails in private account" leveymg Jan 2016 #6

It depends on what your definition of the word is is. Ed Suspicious Jan 2016 #52

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #7

My pleasure. Hillary can't win against rethugs if she's not trustworthy or is preceived as such. nt ChisolmTrailDem Jan 2016 #8

especially for Commander in Chief Rosa Luxemburg Jan 2016 #19

Bernie won't be able to protect her now. nt ChisolmTrailDem Jan 2016 #23

Be sensible, woodchuck Fairgo Jan 2016 #15

Why is Obama picking on Hillary? Autumn Jan 2016 #21

Good grief..... in_cog_ni_to Jan 2016 #22

All I can thin about is Bill and his issues.....both of them. Geese! glinda Jan 2016 #59

Isn't this all Bernie's fault Nanjeanne Jan 2016 #25

Thanks, Susan Sarandon. frylock Jan 2016 #28

LOL!! DAMMIT, JANET! dorkzilla Jan 2016 #115

I think the Obama-Hillary relationship never really changed. She got SOS and I think libdem4life Jan 2016 #30

Either a deal or a shrewed acknowlegement by Pres. O that she would actually be good at that job... ChisolmTrailDem Jan 2016 #36

There were a number of people who would have been good at that job. libdem4life Jan 2016 #50

That may be true rpannier Jan 2016 #100

And that may be true as they had not been up front and center in the US. Too bad she ruined it. libdem4life Jan 2016 #104

She got the job in large part because the Dems in the Senate didn't want her back. askew Jan 2016 #117

Best theory I've seen yet. frylock Jan 2016 #138

She was not a good SOS. senz Jan 2016 #136

Better judgement on other things, too. 840high Jan 2016 #149

I am sure it was a deal for supporting him at the Convention the way she did. thereismore Jan 2016 #38

Two phrases come to mind Fumesucker Jan 2016 #40

Pretty much covers it, IMO, also. libdem4life Jan 2016 #53

The SOS thing was just to avoid a floor fight at the 08 convention tularetom Jan 2016 #89

I remember a bit about that...and yes, she would have gladly torpedoed the Democrats then libdem4life Jan 2016 #93

Judgement is more important than experience....also bkkyosemite Jan 2016 #31

What's this nonsense about finding if they were classified at the time? thereismore Jan 2016 #42

You've twiced posted that you've been told or heard that it doesn't matter that the documents onenote Jan 2016 #87

Why release emails when the top secret ones are so top secret they can't be released? thereismore Jan 2016 #46

"It is like a drip-drip-drip"... PoliticAverse Jan 2016 #47

And she bitches about Snowden? Helen Borg Jan 2016 #49

Boom goes the dynamite. nt thereismore Jan 2016 #69

There is one set of rules for Hillary, and another for everyone else. Maedhros Jan 2016 #91

Imagine!!!!! 840high Jan 2016 #150

Here's a conspiracy theory: MondoCane Jan 2016 #55

She could shoot someone an email on 5th avenue and not lose any supporters. Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #58

As Secretary of State she was the ultimate authority on whether a State document pnwmom Jan 2016 #61

I remember when there was a document dump of emails and dispatches under Bush... Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #67

The director of the National Archives has said that in his opinion pnwmom Jan 2016 #70

If the documents are declassified then why can't they be released? Fumesucker Jan 2016 #71

Because it is SOP, apparently, to review every FOIA release. pnwmom Jan 2016 #74

But they aren't classified, Hillary declassified them.. Fumesucker Jan 2016 #77

Exactly. So this is, as the one writer said, a pile of bullcrap. What else is new? n/t pnwmom Jan 2016 #79

So why aren't they being released? Fumesucker Jan 2016 #81

Because that is standard operating procedure for FOIA request, out of an abundance of caution pnwmom Jan 2016 #85

Hillary doesn't have the authority to declassify them. This person doesn't know what they are askew Jan 2016 #119

There has been no proof offered at all that any of the documents pnwmom Jan 2016 #123

I give up. You are so woefully uninformed that there is no point to arguing with you. askew Jan 2016 #125

"which is what is supposed to be on one of the emails." Yeah and she "supposedly" pnwmom Jan 2016 #144

Not necessarily. noamnety Jan 2016 #95

She still has ultimate authority for applying the guide. Only the President pnwmom Jan 2016 #120

Sorry, that's an incorrect blanket assumption. noamnety Jan 2016 #157

A foreign intelligence agency would have sent any classified communication pnwmom Jan 2016 #158

I'm sure they wouldn't have sent it to her bathroom. noamnety Jan 2016 #159

Im confused Separation Jan 2016 #73

What is your conflict? The Rethug lie is that pnwmom Jan 2016 #78

What matters is where the information originated. cherokeeprogressive Jan 2016 #88

No one has ever publicly claimed that there were any documents pnwmom Jan 2016 #97

Sigh, again you have no idea what you are talking about. askew Jan 2016 #121

Link please. I've heard of rumors. I'm talking about links to people pnwmom Jan 2016 #124

THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RETROACTIVE CLASSIFICATION. askew Jan 2016 #128

Foreign govt information is presumed classified -- that is not the same pnwmom Jan 2016 #130

Sigh, so you didn't read the executive order. askew Jan 2016 #140

Once again Separation Jan 2016 #94

No one has ever said publicly that any of these documents were classified at the time pnwmom Jan 2016 #127

Yes Separation Jan 2016 #131

Then you know that Hillary, as the head of State, was the one with the authority pnwmom Jan 2016 #132

What are your credentials, please? frylock Jan 2016 #142

What are yours? I posted the Federal regulations governing the documents. pnwmom Jan 2016 #143

16 years as a sys admin, 10 of those within the healthcare industry.. frylock Jan 2016 #145

There are also rules Separation Jan 2016 #146

Do we know that they're all 'state documents' though? brett_jv Jan 2016 #75

I've never heard that any involved the CIA or were marked classified -- as a CIA pnwmom Jan 2016 #80

Here's my problem Kelvin Mace Jan 2016 #110

Yeah, that's not true. askew Jan 2016 #118

! frylock Jan 2016 #139

She could also have her IT guy plead the 5th amendment and not lose any supporters. (n/t) thesquanderer Jan 2016 #161

Thanks for posting this. K&R Purveyor Jan 2016 #62

Please stop posting ejbr Jan 2016 #76

Somebody explain to me the 'benefit' to HRC of having stored these emails on her home server? brett_jv Jan 2016 #82

There was kind of a glaring clue. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jan 2016 #90

The most popular rationalization I have seen from Hillary supporters is that the White House Maedhros Jan 2016 #92

From her emails she couldn't even figure out how to use a fax machine or an iPad. askew Jan 2016 #122

K & R AzDar Jan 2016 #84

Sadly, whether she did or didn't, Clinton will be facing massive right wing attacks PatrickforO Jan 2016 #103

All going according to plan...... FrenchieCat Jan 2016 #105

I'm still not seeing a serious issue here. I would like to, but I don't. Vattel Jan 2016 #108

Much ado about nothing. DCBob Jan 2016 #126

The facts still remain the same, none of the emails were classified top secret when she received B Calm Jan 2016 #137