2016 Postmortem

RufusTFirefly

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35. Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!

Sun Jan 31, 2016, 05:37 PM

Jan 2016

Personally, I'm supporting Bernie not because I find Hillary to be disingenuous and unlikeable. I'm supporting Bernie because I admire his record, his ethics, his courage, and his consistency and am largely in agreement with his goals and policy proposals. Although Hillary and I see eye to eye on some issues, we have basic disagreements on many others. I find her votes on key issues (e.g. Iraq war, PATRIOT Act) deeply disappointing, her hawkish record as Secretary of State deeply disturbing, and her tendency to flip-flop (e.g. Keystone, TPP, and marriage equality) very disorienting.

A well-done commercial or a good performance in a debate is highly unlikely to change that.

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Yo! Clinton supporters! Let's talk issues. [View all] Matariki Jan 2016 OP

We've been doing this for the past year Blue_Adept Jan 2016 #1

issues don't matter Matariki Jan 2016 #5

not here and not now Blue_Adept Jan 2016 #6

If you use the word "issues" in the HRC group you will be instantly banned, so... Binkie The Clown Jan 2016 #53

Don't forget those that got marketplace ins and are not renewing.... tokenlib Jan 2016 #2

Why won't people talk the issues here? Matariki Jan 2016 #3

They don't talk issues ypsfonos Jan 2016 #4

no, sometimes they say you're a bigot and that your denial only serves to prove them right MisterP Jan 2016 #8

"Keep us in chains"? WTF is that for a discussion point? What are we, the Soviet Empire? Hekate Jan 2016 #29

What about a handle ? TheFarS1de Jan 2016 #50

Eleusinian Mysteries. Triple Goddess, along with Persephone and Demeter.... Hekate Jan 2016 #52

I only now the name from my Black metal days TheFarS1de Jan 2016 #55

I got mine from this drunken monkey puppet in a wrestling helmet Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #58

Here you go. Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #57

Lolz. That is pretty much what I figured. Guess the Secret Decoder Ring led him wrong. nt Hekate Jan 2016 #60

Does Clinton have a plan for those shortcomings in the ACA? Matariki Jan 2016 #7

Here's an overview: Lucinda Jan 2016 #9

Thanks for the link Matariki Jan 2016 #10

She is more specific in her stump speeches, and I think I saw a policy paper link a while back. Lucinda Jan 2016 #13

Truly hilarious... ljm2002 Jan 2016 #15

I have no idea what you mean? A web page overview is not remotely as in depth Lucinda Jan 2016 #16

That is not what we have been hearing over the last several weeks... ljm2002 Jan 2016 #17

She didn't say she would "try" - She has been very specific about her plans. Lucinda Jan 2016 #21

Here is her healthcare "plan"... ljm2002 Jan 2016 #23

That is just an overview - she is more specific in her stump speeches and here: Lucinda Jan 2016 #26

As you note--she has laid out many of her plans in sections during her speeches, along with funding riversedge Jan 2016 #38

Oh look Uponthegears Jan 2016 #40

Yep. The same process she used during her Senate run. She is a public servant Lucinda Jan 2016 #56

as per Chelsea, millions and millions of Americans would have no health care... libdem4life Jan 2016 #28

That's not fair...She is trying to make a good faith effort Armstead Jan 2016 #18

Who are you talking about... ljm2002 Jan 2016 #19

the poster Armstead Jan 2016 #24

Thank you. Matariki Jan 2016 #22

This one was handy, but not the one I was thinking of: Lucinda Jan 2016 #27

Again, thanks. Lots of info at that link. Matariki Jan 2016 #47

Health care is a biggie for me too. I am fairly lucky that my only real issue Lucinda Jan 2016 #54

I do appreciate the link Matariki Jan 2016 #12

Policy discussions don't happen here. Not In GDP. Not often anyway. Lucinda Jan 2016 #20

What is Clinton's plan for Social Security? Matariki Jan 2016 #11

What plan for Social Security? ChairmanAgnostic Jan 2016 #30

You have a link to that? Hoyt Jan 2016 #37

Why not do your own work and do some research instead of just asking others to do the riversedge Jan 2016 #32

Because I would like to see DU discuss policy, not just toss snark Matariki Jan 2016 #41

Nothing they should pull themselves up by their bootstraps. JRLeft Jan 2016 #14

Why bother? Every time any of us has tried for the past many months, we get shouted down Hekate Jan 2016 #25

That is true--and note the vile RW name calling of Clinton supporters in the OP riversedge Jan 2016 #31

And note Uponthegears Jan 2016 #34

Calling Hilllary supporters a RW vile name call is NOT respect. riversedge Jan 2016 #39

You start your OP with "Clintonistas" and you want to talk issues? BigGLiberal Jan 2016 #33

See #34 Uponthegears Jan 2016 #36

I wasn't aware that was a problematic term Matariki Jan 2016 #42

Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! RufusTFirefly Jan 2016 #35

I'm standing in pretty much the same place you are. Matariki Jan 2016 #44

Yes. It is a colossal embarrassment that we've gone this long... RufusTFirefly Jan 2016 #49

While we're here, I'll be happy to tell you O'Malley's Recursion Jan 2016 #43

+1 Matariki Jan 2016 #45

It is an unfortunate legacy of our Federal system; Obama alluded to this in 2009 Recursion Jan 2016 #46

That's a very good provision Matariki Jan 2016 #48

The ACA tripled FQHC funding Recursion Jan 2016 #51

I respect HRC's stated intent to leave Marijuana policy to the states, but in that case she should Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #59