2016 Postmortem

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34. Funny i was just watching her on MSNBC...A lot of arm waving and shouting going on

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If Hillary is a fighter and gets things done, why isn't she still fighting for universal healthcare? [View all] Avalux Jan 2016 OP

Because, NO, WE CAN'T. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2016 #1

Damn - beat me to it Ferd Berfel Jan 2016 #3

Your autocheck seems to have messed that up, it put in W for SH HereSince1628 Jan 2016 #29

Her "Mean Scream" moment. appal_jack Feb 2016 #83

She only fights for things that have monetary returns Rosa Luxemburg Jan 2016 #2

She can't make money off of it? nt Live and Learn Jan 2016 #4

The Clintons fight for the Clintons Skwmom Jan 2016 #5

She'll get things done... TCJ70 Jan 2016 #6

+1 daleanime Jan 2016 #7

She is. The best route now is a little different -- expanding/improving the ACA. Hoyt Jan 2016 #8

That's working within the current incredibly flawed high-profit system. Avalux Jan 2016 #9

Universal Healthcare has a better chance than single payer. Add public option to ACA and let all Hoyt Jan 2016 #12

Um, the public option has been sent under the bus by your friends Armstead Jan 2016 #21

At that time, too much was required to get it part of ACA. Now it's a paragraph or two, Hoyt Jan 2016 #25

I'm not talking about 6 years ago...talking about now Armstead Jan 2016 #33

I'm talking now too. It is much easier adding a public option to legislation already enacted. Hoyt Jan 2016 #37

Let me know when they actually attempt it and commit to it Armstead Jan 2016 #38

And yet, nowhere in Hillary's policy positions... ljm2002 Feb 2016 #54

Seriously? Fast Walker 52 Jan 2016 #10

She just doesn't wave her arms around like Sanders and expect people to believe she can Hoyt Jan 2016 #13

Funny i was just watching her on MSNBC...A lot of arm waving and shouting going on Armstead Jan 2016 #34

LMFAO! JRLeft Jan 2016 #36

You care as much about universal health care as your candidate, delrem Jan 2016 #15

Obviously, you don't understand the difference between universal health care and single payer. Hoyt Jan 2016 #26

It's a serious problem everywhere dreamnightwind Feb 2016 #85

Expanding shit just makes more shit. Odin2005 Feb 2016 #98

She will work with Republicans to get things done mindwalker_i Jan 2016 #11

First of all ... NanceGreggs Jan 2016 #14

Hillary Clinton said that universal health care won't ever, ever come to pass. delrem Jan 2016 #17

You're free to believe what you want to believe. NanceGreggs Jan 2016 #20

It's what she said, Nance. Geez. delrem Jan 2016 #24

Link and quote? tia uponit7771 Jan 2016 #31

here pinebox Feb 2016 #40

...and as usual, no quote... cause she didn't say that uponit7771 Feb 2016 #65

Here is the quote from the link: Vincardog Feb 2016 #93

Again, no quote FROM HILLARY with CONTEXT... cause she didn't say that even in context uponit7771 Feb 2016 #95

Believe anything you want to. The reality will not change Vincardog Feb 2016 #99

It took me less than a minute to find her statement via Google. Old Crow Feb 2016 #43

I didn't dispute the quote. NanceGreggs Feb 2016 #47

Really? Old Crow Feb 2016 #48

Nah, no need for no context and stuff.. they just expect people to take their word for it uponit7771 Feb 2016 #67

... and no context either, theoretical idea doesn't equal single payer uponit7771 Feb 2016 #66

You want context? Old Crow Feb 2016 #72

Sigh, I'm talkin about her words alone... I trust my eyes and brain more than I trust whomever uponit7771 Feb 2016 #73

Allow me to turn your question back at you... Old Crow Feb 2016 #75

No, she said single payer. There's a big difference between single payer, and universahealth care Hoyt Jan 2016 #28

Explain Lage Nom Ai Feb 2016 #51

she said exactly that and its on video tk2kewl Jan 2016 #19

Yes, yes, of course. NanceGreggs Jan 2016 #23

The "video" has been posted here ... NanceGreggs Jan 2016 #35

Interesting that you can't find it. tk2kewl Feb 2016 #79

Here is the quote: ljm2002 Feb 2016 #55

Reading is fundamental. NanceGreggs Feb 2016 #58

Yes, reading is fundamental... ljm2002 Feb 2016 #61

I LOVE my healthcare ... NanceGreggs Feb 2016 #64

Glad you like your health care... ljm2002 Feb 2016 #70

If you consider ... NanceGreggs Feb 2016 #74

Yes we do need to see what comes before it, I'm not trusting Sanders camp understanding of Hillary uponit7771 Feb 2016 #69

Because it's republican things she's getting done. onecaliberal Jan 2016 #16

She was never for single payer thesquanderer Jan 2016 #18

K&R jwirr Jan 2016 #22

Hasn't she say we need to build on ACA? She isn't for repealing ACA Thinkingabout Jan 2016 #27

Neither is Sanders Armstead Jan 2016 #39

So he wants his plan along side ACA?! Again, how are they BOTH supposed to exist?! tia uponit7771 Feb 2016 #71

Stop lying. ljm2002 Feb 2016 #57

We, the people, are no longer a priority 840high Jan 2016 #30

She's a fighter, yes. Get things done like (1) health care reform in the 1990s - nope, (2) stability Attorney in Texas Jan 2016 #32

You haven't learned the new song--No We Can't! No We Can't! nt valerief Feb 2016 #41

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ SoapBox Feb 2016 #42

Does Hillary REALLY believe in anything? JDPriestly Feb 2016 #44

that faction also says "SCOTUS SCOTUS" after giving us Thomas MisterP Feb 2016 #45

Universal health care Nonhlanhla Feb 2016 #46

So what? ljm2002 Feb 2016 #59

What is Bernie's plan? Nonhlanhla Feb 2016 #62

She doesn't even promote a public option... ljm2002 Feb 2016 #68

Bernie does not have any realistic plan at all Nonhlanhla Feb 2016 #77

I am most certainly not demonizing her... ljm2002 Feb 2016 #81

You are quite rude Nonhlanhla Feb 2016 #82

She fought for harsher prison sentencing, chaos in middle east, and bankers whereisjustice Feb 2016 #49

Hillary firmly believes in Univ. Health Care but believes it has to be achieved in riversedge Feb 2016 #50

Tip toe, tip toe... ljm2002 Feb 2016 #60

Because. She's a fighter who's getting things done CoffeeCat Feb 2016 #52

If we could pay her $2.8 million for 13 speeches she may yet come around to Bernblu Feb 2016 #53

haha, I'd rather just vote for Bernie Fast Walker 52 Feb 2016 #78

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #56

She's not good at getting healthcare done jfern Feb 2016 #63

The fighter part is just a myth. nt silvershadow Feb 2016 #76

Good question. nt kristopher Feb 2016 #80

Because it's just TOO HARD. Would you STOP?! We CAN'T DO IT. closeupready Feb 2016 #84

I rec'd despite the ambiguous term universal in the title dreamnightwind Feb 2016 #86

Hillary fought for universal health care in the 90s. Avalux Feb 2016 #89

Thanks, still not clear to me though dreamnightwind Feb 2016 #92

She wanted "medicare 2.0" in 2008. Avalux Feb 2016 #94

SHe's being paid NOT TO. Ferd Berfel Feb 2016 #87

With all due respect, if anyone deserves to be reprimanded on giving up; it's Howard Dean... Earth_First Feb 2016 #88

Bernie hasn't given up - that's why I support him. n/t Avalux Feb 2016 #90

Likewise. n/t Earth_First Feb 2016 #91

Right now she's too busy fighting For Hillary John Poet Feb 2016 #96

Because she "gets things done" for the 1%. Odin2005 Feb 2016 #97