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beam me up scottie

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40. What? She not only praised him she admitted she consulted him for advice when she was SOS.
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 06:23 PM
Feb 2016
Hillary Clinton Praises a Guy With Lots of Blood on His Hands

Hillary Clinton often plays the hawk card: She voted for the Iraq war, dissed President Barack Obama for not being tough enough on Syria, and compared Vladimir Putin to Adolf Hitler. This is to be expected from a politician who has angled for a certain title: the first female president of the United States. Whether her muscular views are sincerely held or not, a conventional political calculation would lead her to assume it may be difficult for many voters to elect as commander-in-chief a woman who did not project an aggressive and assertive stance on foreign policy. So her tough talk might be charitably evaluated in such a (somewhat) forgiving context. Yet what remains more puzzling and alarming is the big wet kiss she planted (rhetorically) on former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger this week, with a fawning review of his latest book, World Order.

Sure, perhaps there is secretary's privilege—an old boy and girls club, in which the ex-foreign-policy chiefs do not speak ill of each other and try to help out the person presently in the post. Nothing wrong with that. But former-Madam Secretary Clinton had no obligation to praise Kissinger and publicly participate in his decades-long mission to rehabilitate his image. In the review, she calls Kissinger a "friend" and reports, "I relied on his counsel when I served as secretary of state. He checked in with me regularly, sharing astute observations about foreign leaders and sending me written reports on his travels." She does add that she and Henry "have often seen the world and some of our challenges quite differently, and advocated different responses now and in the past." But here's the kicker: At the end of the review, she notes that Kissinger is "surprisingly idealistic":

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Kissinger, who served as secretary of state for President Richard Nixon and then President Gerald Ford, is a symbol of the worst of US foreign policy. Though he guided the United States through détente with the Soviet Union and initiated the historic opening to China, he engaged in underhanded and covert diplomacy that led to massacres around the globe, as he pursued his version of foreign policy realism. This is no secret.

Chile: Nixon and Kissinger plotted to thwart the democratic election of a socialist president. The eventual outcome: a military coup and a military dictatorship that killed thousands of Chileans.

Argentina: Kissinger gave a "green light" to the military junta's dirty war against political opponents that led to the deaths of an estimated 30,000.

East Timor: Another "green light" from Kissinger, this one for the Indonesian military dictatorship's bloody invasion of East Timor that yielded up to 200,000 deaths.

Cambodia: The secret bombing there during the Nixon phase of the Vietnam War killed between 150,000 and 500,000 civilians.


Bangladesh: Kissinger and Nixon turned a blind eye to—arguably, they tacitly approved—Pakistan's genocidal slaughter of 300,000 Bengalis, most of them Hindus.

And there's more. Kissinger's mendacity has been chronicled for years. See Gary Bass' recent and damning book on the Bangladesh tragedy, The Blood Telegram. There's Seymour Hersh's classic, The Price of Power. In The Trial of Henry Kissinger, Christopher Hitchens presented the case against Kissinger in his full polemical style. As secretary of state, Kissinger made common cause with—and encouraged—tyrants who repressed and massacred many. He did not serve the American values of democracy, free expression, and human rights. He shredded them.

http://www.salon.com/2015/04/17/the_ivy_leagues_favorite_war_criminal_why_the_atrocities_of_henry_kissinger_should_be_mandatory_reading/

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Yes, Bernie's love for the American people over any political party has been evident for decades. nt valerief Feb 2016 #1
"People before party" is a Bad Thing now, per this afternoon's last-minute memo. arcane1 Feb 2016 #4
Of course, you're talking to people who expected a coronation. beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #42
I like him more and more as I learn about him. arcane1 Feb 2016 #2
Great post. bigwillq Feb 2016 #81
Hillary Clinton is part of the problem, and the problem is corruption cali Feb 2016 #3
This is relevant, but Hillary supporting Goldwater in High School isn't? Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #5
Bwahahahaha! valerief Feb 2016 #6
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I think you're flailing. Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #8
Millenials aren't the only voters. They just think they are. n/t pnwmom Feb 2016 #10
Really? Do you have evidence that millennials think that way or are you just being ageist? Bjorn Against Feb 2016 #16
I would say that it's quite the opposite. frylock Feb 2016 #18
Keep insulting em, that's a great strategy. Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #25
GET OFF MY LAWN, MILLENIALS!!! beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #43
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Man retires, spends days yelling at clouds, children and dogs! beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #105
Not dogs. tazkcmo Feb 2016 #106
Even if they poop on the grass? beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #107
The dog or the kid? tazkcmo Feb 2016 #108
Me too! If I owned a restaurant pets would be allowed but not kids. beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #111
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Ah, you probably listen to that Nirvana on your portable CD player Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #88
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What was Hillary's feelings about Henry Kissinger when she was a at least middle aged adult? Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #13
Hillary was a Diplomat and she said something Diplomatic. Big deal. n/t pnwmom Feb 2016 #26
What? She not only praised him she admitted she consulted him for advice when she was SOS. beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #40
They think Hillary is supposed stab everyone they hate in the ass or she's a sell out or some shit. uponit7771 Feb 2016 #61
you words 'in High School" should tell you something but you are desperate to smear riversedge Feb 2016 #22
my advice? A little less "rapid response", a little more "reading comprehension". Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #24
I responded to the Goldwater content. Hard to see past that riversedge Feb 2016 #29
Fair nuff. Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #30
It's recycling day again, the op is stirring the manure pile hoping to churn up something new. beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #37
Results LiberalArkie Feb 2016 #115
Thanks! The swarm has been slipping lately. For the alerter: beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #116
I have to go with this one LiberalArkie Feb 2016 #117
That's a fantastic ad, thanks for posting it!!! beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #120
How old was Hillary?!?! Why is this even an issue?! Come on people, keep it classy uponit7771 Feb 2016 #59
It's not an issue, and neither is Bernie Sanders' reaction to a JFK speech. Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #84
Yeah, Sanders seems to have a history of bashing dems... Proffering Obama be primaried and uponit7771 Feb 2016 #86
You should slow down on all the 'profferring'. Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #90
I like the word... Sanders has "proffered" tons of shit including bashing Obama and JKF... uponit7771 Feb 2016 #91
clearly. Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #97
How old was Bernie during the period ... You acknowledged that HRC was in high school. eom. 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #128
I don't think either is relevant. Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #131
Wait ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #133
it would only be flexible standards if i had ever said any of that other stuff. Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #136
Though I responded to you ... My point was about DU:Bernie. Sorry for the confusion. eom. 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #138
Bernie has made a career out of hating democrats workinclasszero Feb 2016 #9
Yes, he has. That's why he refused to join them until now. n/t pnwmom Feb 2016 #11
It just eats you up inside that Bernie has to come in and clean up your party, doesn't it? frylock Feb 2016 #20
Bernie Sanders is not going to "clean up" anything BigGLiberal Feb 2016 #33
Right, and if your precious party goes against the will of the people.. frylock Feb 2016 #38
So you admit that this party the way you see it doesn't believe in the SYSTEM of democracy? cascadiance Feb 2016 #46
So cute. Was that you the other day that wanted to change the Party's name to reflect... Hekate Feb 2016 #57
Well, I was responding to a post that said winning a democratic vote doesn't count cascadiance Feb 2016 #112
"your party" ? Lucinda Feb 2016 #41
I'm not a registered democrat.. frylock Feb 2016 #47
"Your party"? Is that you saying you're not a Democrat any more than St. Bernie is? Hekate Feb 2016 #54
I never claimed to be a Democrat. frylock Feb 2016 #77
Yes, any form of disagreement is just based purely on hate. frylock Feb 2016 #19
And Hillary has made a career out of nichomachus Feb 2016 #44
He sees running on the Dem ticket as an opportunity pandr32 Feb 2016 #45
+1, thank you!!! Someone has to say this !!! uponit7771 Feb 2016 #62
The Kennedys weren't gods. Bernie is just as admirable as they were. virgogal Feb 2016 #83
No, but they certainly sacrificed just about everything for this country. Bernie has a sinecure ... Hekate Feb 2016 #95
If the Kennedys were still alive,and they could be, they would just virgogal Feb 2016 #101
On this one I'm in total agreement with Sanders flamingdem Feb 2016 #12
Billionaires are buying our small d "democracy" and Nanjeanne Feb 2016 #14
Per your last line: Go to the link in the OP and SCROLL DOWN THE PAGE. It's all there. Hekate Feb 2016 #80
Bernie has a long record of bashing the Democratic party DesertRat Feb 2016 #15
It will resonate with Dems that put principle over party. frylock Feb 2016 #21
Who's principles? An idealouges?! Cause that's what he's staring to look like uponit7771 Feb 2016 #63
Bernie represents traditional Democratic principles. frylock Feb 2016 #74
Yeah, except for reparations and a couple of other things he's not going to stand up to during uponit7771 Feb 2016 #76
Hillary is running on a platform of issuing reparations? frylock Feb 2016 #79
Nope, and that's fine with me seeing she's not calling for a revolution inside the DNC... uponit7771 Feb 2016 #85
Revolution = reparations? frylock Feb 2016 #92
Revolution = Single Payer?!?!! See how that works?! Revolution !!!!! (except for those people).... uponit7771 Feb 2016 #93
Enjoy your day.. frylock Feb 2016 #96
Nah, we'll see about SC... then people who don't want to be Bern Victims (tm) will be able uponit7771 Feb 2016 #98
Yes, please do put all your eggs in that South Cackalacky basket. frylock Feb 2016 #99
Clinton polls better with the poor, blacks, Hispanics, women, gays and small puppies... uponit7771 Feb 2016 #100
...Or Dems who are not Dems. Or Dems who have amnesia. Or Dems who don't understand government. Hekate Feb 2016 #67
And? Spider Jerusalem Feb 2016 #17
Et tu Brute? oasis Feb 2016 #23
Perhaps you had to be there during his too-brief term. So much was in potentia; so much left undone. Hekate Feb 2016 #64
Thank you. 840high Feb 2016 #130
Oh let's red bait. Warren Stupidity Feb 2016 #27
... Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #28
When you are in a hole, a hole dug by corporatists from both parties, guillaumeb Feb 2016 #36
Stay home, obviously. That way you'll be starving the beast. Hekate Feb 2016 #71
It is probably good that you added the sarcasm icon. guillaumeb Feb 2016 #121
Bernie knows all CorkySt.Clair Feb 2016 #31
Was JFK's supporting an attempted coup against Cuba a good idea? guillaumeb Feb 2016 #32
The next thing you know the Hillary people will say Bernie supports interment of Japanese Americans. cascadiance Feb 2016 #48
If I'd been a Bernie supporter, this little bit of news would really make me think again ... NurseJackie Feb 2016 #34
He seems to spend more time fighting Democrats treestar Feb 2016 #35
You've noticed too, eh? NurseJackie Feb 2016 #53
It's too bad I lost the link but I found a very interesting newspaper article Armstead Feb 2016 #68
Did the article state that Clinton herself floated the idea? Somehow I doubt that. Hekate Feb 2016 #75
OMG, Bernie is a complicated man who actually thinks things through instead of blindly Live and Learn Feb 2016 #39
That makes perfect sense, in historical context. Mopar151 Feb 2016 #49
It's interesting that while the rest of us were sending away for Peace Corps packets & imagining.... Hekate Feb 2016 #50
Hillary supporters love regime change and overthrowing leaders. ForgoTheConsequence Feb 2016 #51
Tell me how you feel about Che? You. cherokeeprogressive Feb 2016 #52
One time I said I thought Bradley Cooper was "hot" (for a man). When I'm 74, the OP is going to cherokeeprogressive Feb 2016 #56
Why would you want to be so deliberately offensive in your choice of terms? Hekate Feb 2016 #87
"One time"? "I thought"? cherokeeprogressive Feb 2016 #126
Is Sanders an Ideologue? tia uponit7771 Feb 2016 #58
So what? It was a fascist speech. Ken Burch Feb 2016 #60
Why does this OP Uponthegears Feb 2016 #65
It's news too me. I'm glad to know about it. NurseJackie Feb 2016 #72
are you truly fucking SERIOUS? m-lekktor Feb 2016 #66
Oh NO!! Stop the caucuses!! Look at what he did 36 years ago!! jillan Feb 2016 #69
That quote was from a much more recent interview, describing pnwmom Feb 2016 #73
Or what he did 36 months ago?! He's the one that suggested Obama be primaried... uponit7771 Feb 2016 #82
You do know, of course that Sanders led Jackson's presidential campaign in VT...don't you? Armstead Feb 2016 #70
Oh crap! We're supposed to agree with everything JFK did retrowire Feb 2016 #78
LMAO! That thread... beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #89
JFK was an imperialist Cold Warior. Odin2005 Feb 2016 #94
No he really wasn't. That's a completely false revisionist view favored by GOP propagandists ucrdem Feb 2016 #125
Whatever helps you sleep at night. Odin2005 Feb 2016 #134
I sleep better knowing Dems aren't stooges, hacks, chickenhawks or criminials. ucrdem Feb 2016 #135
It's a fact that JFK was a hawkish cold-warrior. Odin2005 Feb 2016 #137
Here's what JFK was all about. It's a UN speech pitching the first nuclear test ban treaty ucrdem Feb 2016 #141
Much as your posts nauseate me. n/t tazkcmo Feb 2016 #102
In 1776, I bet people were nauseated by talk against our revolution, too. merrily Feb 2016 #103
We spent years in denial of the right wing meme that "both sides do it" tularetom Feb 2016 #109
A lot less crazy, ignorant and destructive than campaigning for Goldwater. Smarmie Doofus Feb 2016 #114
In high school! The Evil starts so Young!!!!!111!! Then she became a mole in the Democratic Party!1! Hekate Feb 2016 #122
Too bad her foreign policy hasn't evolved much. Smarmie Doofus Feb 2016 #124
I'm physically ill that a neocon with a D after her name is in contention. Fawke Em Feb 2016 #118
I was nauseated by having to dive under desks MineralMan Feb 2016 #119
He couldn't be more wrong. He's either making it up or really misremembering. ucrdem Feb 2016 #123
To be fair, JFK's invasion of Cuba wasn't his finest hour (nt) Nye Bevan Feb 2016 #127
Wasn't his. It was Ike's, more specifically Dulles's ucrdem Feb 2016 #129
In 1960 JFK praised Fidel Castro as an heir of Bolívar ucrdem Feb 2016 #132
Honestly JFK's policy toward Cuba was nauseating Cheese Sandwich Feb 2016 #139
Lol. Arugula Latte Feb 2016 #140
Sanders didn't support JFK and Johnson's war in Vietnam either jberryhill Feb 2016 #142
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