2016 Postmortem

DanTex

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41. The debacle were the gleeful predictions of a historic win for Bernie.

Reply to bread_and_roses (Reply #39)

Wed Feb 3, 2016, 10:57 AM

Feb 2016

When it turns out that in the closest thing to his home turf outside of VT and NH, he couldn't even manage a victory.

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Why the 2016 Democratic Nomination is Lining Up To Be The 2008 Sequel (NUMBERS) [View all] berni_mccoy Feb 2016 OP

Bernie couldn't even win a state full of white liberals. He's no Obama. DanTex Feb 2016 #1

Who were predominantly older... we get it. berni_mccoy Feb 2016 #4

Boo! That's hitting below the belt. randome Feb 2016 #6

"Bernie is saying they WILL WIN in an History Victory in Iowa." DanTex Feb 2016 #8

You brought up race, I didn't. berni_mccoy Feb 2016 #10

"Bernie is saying they WILL WIN in an History Victory in Iowa." DanTex Feb 2016 #11

Wow, like a broken fucking record. The fact was, it was Historic berni_mccoy Feb 2016 #12

Hey, if you don't want to be called on your false predictions, don't make them. DanTex Feb 2016 #13

Hey, if you had any form of reading comprehension, you'd know that wasn't MY prediction... berni_mccoy Feb 2016 #14

Even better. You were magically reading Bernie's mind, and attributing your false prediction to him. DanTex Feb 2016 #15

Lol, you are from Texas... berni_mccoy Feb 2016 #16

Funny that you didn't mention any Texas rally in your false prediction. DanTex Feb 2016 #19

Texas... berni_mccoy Feb 2016 #22

Yeah, politics are pretty bad down there. I live in NYC now, much better. DanTex Feb 2016 #27

It's nice to back a winner isn't it? MrChuck Feb 2016 #69

Ah, the coin toss conspiracy. That one died about 24 hours ago when it was reported that Sanders DanTex Feb 2016 #70

I'm not asserting any conspiracy MrChuck Feb 2016 #71

The coin tosses were necessary, because there were ties, but it didn't matter how they turned out, DanTex Feb 2016 #74

I concede the victory. MrChuck Feb 2016 #77

The margin is tiny. I'll concede that. Could hardly have been smaller. DanTex Feb 2016 #78

That's common ground. MrChuck Feb 2016 #86

Nice to meet you too. DanTex Feb 2016 #88

She is clearly a strong candidate. MrChuck Feb 2016 #90

I disagree that she is only "as strong" as Sanders right now. DanTex Feb 2016 #91

So... MrChuck Feb 2016 #93

... DanTex Feb 2016 #94

... MrChuck Feb 2016 #96

Dan, do you find the "old white ladies" remark on a progressive forum as disturbing as I do? DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #21

I find it disturbing. It's obviously meant to discount their opinions in a nasty way. DanTex Feb 2016 #25

As is saying "white liberals". berni_mccoy Feb 2016 #26

Really? Pointing out that Bernie's support is stronger with "white liberals" is ageist and sexist? DanTex Feb 2016 #29

That is not a fact. Stating it as one is dishonest and racist berni_mccoy Feb 2016 #31

Of course it's a fact. Every poll shows the same. The Iowa entrance polls showed that DanTex Feb 2016 #33

You have absolutely ZERO evidence of this (as does anyone else). berni_mccoy Feb 2016 #35

Every poll, including entrance polls in Iowa. DanTex Feb 2016 #37

Except that you didn't simply point out that Sanders was stronger with White Liberals (your words) berni_mccoy Feb 2016 #42

I never implied white liberals were the "only ones he could get." DanTex Feb 2016 #44

"Bernie couldn't even win a state full of white liberals." -DanTex berni_mccoy Feb 2016 #48

That's correct. Even in a state full of white liberals, where his demographic advantage is greatest DanTex Feb 2016 #52

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I don't think you know what either "race-baiting" or "admitting" means. DanTex Feb 2016 #57

I don't think you know what your saying berni_mccoy Feb 2016 #58

Yeah, I'm saying that Iowa was a very Bernie-favorable state demographically. DanTex Feb 2016 #59

Believing ... DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #28

Res ipsa loquitur DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #17

Oh kettle, the pot's calling... berni_mccoy Feb 2016 #20

Sir or madame... DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #23

Thanks for admitting it (and also proving my point by raising it again). berni_mccoy Feb 2016 #24

If ... DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #32

Last time she came in third yeoman6987 Feb 2016 #43

3 months ago, she led by 30 points. 6 months ago, by 60 berni_mccoy Feb 2016 #51

Maybe. Let's see how much she can do in NH yeoman6987 Feb 2016 #56

"debacle" ?????? ROFL bread_and_roses Feb 2016 #39

The debacle were the gleeful predictions of a historic win for Bernie. DanTex Feb 2016 #41

Not a debacle for Bernie, his campaign drew in $3 million in under 48 hours. berni_mccoy Feb 2016 #53

Hillary had a 30 point lead in December and spent 13 million more than Bernie. Avalux Feb 2016 #47

And she won in Iowa, one of the Bernie-friendliest demographics in the country. DanTex Feb 2016 #61

Spin it all you want. Money will NOT buy this election, won't buy the votes of minorities. n/t Avalux Feb 2016 #63

I agree, money won't buy this election. I always get a laugh when Bernie fans boast about how much DanTex Feb 2016 #64

At least he's getting it from us, and not corps and banks. Yep, all of us, together. n/t Avalux Feb 2016 #65

Hillary cannabis_flower Feb 2016 #60

No, she's not. She's a Hillary. In 2008 that was almost enough to beat Obama. DanTex Feb 2016 #62

Good point. And the youth are coming out. morningfog Feb 2016 #2

Uh no, bernie did not get the turnout Obama did and never will. BigGLiberal Feb 2016 #3

Of course he won't. But Hillary will always be Hillary. nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #30

They certainly did underestimate the youth vote. in_cog_ni_to Feb 2016 #5

I would rather lose standing with our diverse base than... JaneyVee Feb 2016 #7

The Youth is what makes the base Diverse. That's what Clinton (and her supporters) don't get. berni_mccoy Feb 2016 #9

white liberals Roy Ellefson Feb 2016 #18

The muddle is not that diverse noiretextatique Feb 2016 #38

This message was self-deleted by its author CobaltBlue Feb 2016 #34

Compare Barack and Bernie: Could they be more different in every way possible? CajunBlazer Feb 2016 #36

The rw constantly accuses Obama of offering "freebies" noiretextatique Feb 2016 #40

You conveniently ignored the main points of my post CajunBlazer Feb 2016 #68

here is another more frightening way it could be similar restorefreedom Feb 2016 #45

I agree that is a real possibility here. And if they do that, I hope Hillary and DWS realize berni_mccoy Feb 2016 #50

and worse than that, if a repub antiestablishment wins on their side, restorefreedom Feb 2016 #55

Well, I probably still would, since the prospect of a President Cruz, Trump or Rubio scares KingCharlemagne Feb 2016 #85

You need to worry about something that is more likely to happen CajunBlazer Feb 2016 #72

as we have seen, msm polls are underestimating bernie restorefreedom Feb 2016 #76

No way CajunBlazer Feb 2016 #81

you say tomato, i say tomaaaaaato, restorefreedom Feb 2016 #83

Dude, Bernie is behind 20% to 53% in the upcoming primaries which have polling... CajunBlazer Feb 2016 #84

what i am saying is that i don't believe the polls restorefreedom Feb 2016 #92

Ahhh... the old "the polls must be wrong because I don't like what they say" conspiracy CajunBlazer Feb 2016 #95

i am well grounded in reality restorefreedom Feb 2016 #97

Well grounded in reality? - I guess that's open to debate CajunBlazer Feb 2016 #98

bookmark away, dude! (dudette) restorefreedom Feb 2016 #99

Hillary is still Hillary SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #46

Hillary IS still Hillary. SoapBox Feb 2016 #49

I'd prefer that, too, and I've stated it many times. randome Feb 2016 #80

BERNIE!! AzDar Feb 2016 #66

For weeks (maybe months) we were told that the Iowa Caucuses would be a rerun of..... George II Feb 2016 #67

Oh my! Still on this, are we? How amusing! NurseJackie Feb 2016 #73

Bernie tied Hillary because the youth turnout was low WhaTHellsgoingonhere Feb 2016 #75

Interesting. blackspade Feb 2016 #79

Numbers are not matching up at all. Amimnoch Feb 2016 #82

Where is that polling data you cite coming from? I'd be interested to dig a little KingCharlemagne Feb 2016 #87

Most of it is from Real clear politics. Amimnoch Feb 2016 #89