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Recursion

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70. That's not how the exchanges work
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 11:26 PM
Feb 2016

(I'm taking it as a pretty safe bet that somebody earning minimum wage also has been dumped onto the exchange by their employer; I may be wrong of course.)

In the exchange the insurance company must clear its premiums with either the state or Federal HHS (depending on who runs the marketplace). The Federal government then subsidizes the purchase based on your income (this then got royally fucked by states refusing to expand Medicaid, which was how people slightly above the poverty level were supposed to get insurance; the subsidy formula doesn't make a silver plan affordable for someone who would have received Medicaid had it been expanded). Oddly enough, on DU we saw a lot of kvetching about the cost of bronze plans compared to their stingy benefits; this was intentional -- in many cases a silver plan with the subsidies will wind up being cheaper out of pocket.

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Hey, at least they wouldn't be able to portray him as a crook. cali Feb 2016 #1
Reich said it best kristopher Feb 2016 #3
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2016 #26
Don't be so sure. The truth hasn't stopped them yet. Alfresco Feb 2016 #7
actually Icracked up I saw something the other day hollysmom Feb 2016 #22
Who knows what they'll try. Like the article says, they'll dig through his trash, go through legal DanTex Feb 2016 #8
You talk like Hillary's trained monkey, David Brock, isn't already doing that. frylock Feb 2016 #81
Ooh boogeyman! JRLeft Feb 2016 #89
Or a weathervane Matariki Feb 2016 #33
Of COURSE they would. Where have you been Hortensis Feb 2016 #47
You do not know the GOP or the Kochs? Gothmog Feb 2016 #59
They will portray Sanders as Osama Bin Laden, they did that to a War Hero... what the hell do you uponit7771 Feb 2016 #80
Nah, just a draft dodger, socialist, rape essay author who wants to raise your taxes. JaneyVee Feb 2016 #87
Yes, because they won't attack Hillary. dogman Feb 2016 #2
Sure they will. They already have, and those attacks are already in her poll numbers. DanTex Feb 2016 #9
If he wins the Primary it is unlikely to have any different effect. dogman Feb 2016 #25
The Clinton campaign has handled Bernie with kid gloves. comradebillyboy Feb 2016 #43
Mean? I sure never said that. dogman Feb 2016 #50
The Clinton campaign has not been attacking Sanders Gothmog Feb 2016 #60
Go read in the HRC group. dogman Feb 2016 #76
Well Goblinmonger Feb 2016 #4
Vox=center/right garbage. I won't even click their links. nt Romulox Feb 2016 #5
This Sanders wants to raise taxes is getting old. bkkyosemite Feb 2016 #6
I'm sure the GOP will make that clear in their attack ads. DanTex Feb 2016 #10
I could care less Tex. bkkyosemite Feb 2016 #13
You're not an uncommitted, independent voter, though. LonePirate Feb 2016 #23
The target audience for these negative ads will not care Gothmog Feb 2016 #62
The GOP calls all democrats socialists, Obama, Clinton, ALL of them. immoderate Feb 2016 #35
Not everyone pays premiums to insurance companies Recursion Feb 2016 #19
Is that ultimately worse than being forced to pay whatever the insurance decide to charge? Armstead Feb 2016 #41
That's not how the exchanges work Recursion Feb 2016 #70
You just explained the problem Armstead Feb 2016 #71
Sounds like the FQHC program and global budgeting Recursion Feb 2016 #72
We can build something new Armstead Feb 2016 #73
Well we'll get right back to you David right after the gop wackos have their next hearing on jillan Feb 2016 #11
And they've have a yuuuge head start.... daleanime Feb 2016 #14
If you want a preview.... daleanime Feb 2016 #12
The article covers that too. The fact that Bernie's campaign and his fans are perpetually outraged DanTex Feb 2016 #15
We love you too! daleanime Feb 2016 #17
GOP lying isn't an excuse for HRC to lie kristopher Feb 2016 #20
DanTex, it is really getting tiresome. 7wo7rees Feb 2016 #29
+1. The attacks on her, and the intense voting backlash vs her from Rethugs - is going to be JudyM Feb 2016 #37
I know we aren't prepared for it at all. Here in the Bush 7wo7rees Feb 2016 #44
Exactly. And the anti-socialism meme is way simpler for most casual voters to see through, as JudyM Feb 2016 #46
Where did DanT go? 7wo7rees Feb 2016 #48
Dunno. JudyM Feb 2016 #51
Ouch. Hate that. :) 7wo7rees Feb 2016 #54
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2016 #30
Funny that you mention 'perpetual outrage.' immoderate Feb 2016 #36
Yes, I would have to agree about the outrage. Relentless! nt 7wo7rees Feb 2016 #49
I have been shocked at the outrage by the Sanders supporters to these so-called attacks Gothmog Feb 2016 #63
Shockingly disappointing. frylock Feb 2016 #82
The sad outrage by Sanders supporters to kids glove treatment of Sanders has been amusing to watch Gothmog Feb 2016 #86
Ah, kid gloves. There it is again. frylock Feb 2016 #92
Too true! GoneOffShore Feb 2016 #16
See below HERVEPA Feb 2016 #18
They used all those arguments against President Obama as well so? Todays_Illusion Feb 2016 #21
Did President Obama ever call himself a socialist? Gothmog Feb 2016 #65
Nothing we haven't seen in the primaries. mmonk Feb 2016 #24
Lol SheenaR Feb 2016 #27
Oh noes! Let's take a moment to worry about what the Republicans are going to do! beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #28
As opposed to slamming her for mishandling classified information? AtomicKitten Feb 2016 #31
And another OP hits a nerve-- JohnnyLib2 Feb 2016 #32
Pushed some buttons with this one! BigGLiberal Feb 2016 #34
NOw give a thought to the apathy that Hillary will produce in Democrats and Ferd Berfel Feb 2016 #38
I think you aren't giving credit towards Bernie's ground game and the weakening of MSM vs. Internet PyaarRevolution Feb 2016 #39
What ground game-the turnout in Iowa was lower than in 2008 Gothmog Feb 2016 #68
Right, when the FBI gets done with him.... oh, wait. n/t lumberjack_jeff Feb 2016 #40
They will do the same to Hillary... JPnoodleman Feb 2016 #42
Funny ... The comments for the defense of Bernie, reflect the exact points ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #45
I'm sure they must have "overlooked" that. NurseJackie Feb 2016 #57
A state of perpetual umbrage...facing even mild attacks from Clinton's camp... PatrickforO Feb 2016 #52
He'll get trounced! Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #53
Please notice- left lowrider Feb 2016 #55
And yet, she is winning, so I guess she hasn't lost any support at all. leftofcool Feb 2016 #56
Great article-Sanders has not been attacked yet in the primary process Gothmog Feb 2016 #58
The Dem candidate is going to be called a Communist no matter who it is. Odin2005 Feb 2016 #61
It would Sort of look like what the Hillary Campaign is currently trying to do. Katashi_itto Feb 2016 #64
The Clinton campaign has been treating Sanders with kid gloves Gothmog Feb 2016 #67
Oh...yeah.....snicker Katashi_itto Feb 2016 #74
You will not like what the GOP and the Kochs will do if Sanders is the nominee Gothmog Feb 2016 #85
Gosh..you mean it will be differnt if your oligarch runs? Katashi_itto Feb 2016 #90
The term kid gloves sure is being used a lot throughout this thread. frylock Feb 2016 #83
Denial is not just a river in Africa Gothmog Feb 2016 #84
The denial is that Hillary's trained monkey, David Brock, is treating Bernie with kid gloves. frylock Feb 2016 #91
"Sanders supporters do not give the impression that they are cognizant of Sander's vulnerabilities" Number23 Feb 2016 #66
Denial is not just a river in Africa Gothmog Feb 2016 #69
Oh, I can imagine it...and it's not pretty. Kang Colby Feb 2016 #75
He does much better in general election poll jfern Feb 2016 #77
Too true........ Beacool Feb 2016 #78
If Sanders can withstand the ruthless Clinton Machine, he'll survive the GOP. SMC22307 Feb 2016 #79
YET ANOTHER article where you only need find/replace GOP with Hillary and it STILL works! Kind of Vote2016 Feb 2016 #88
Are you kidding me? workinclasszero Feb 2016 #93
Since when do the Republicans choose the Democratic candidate? AgingAmerican Feb 2016 #94
And then give a little thought to how Sanders would campaign against the GOP. Betty Karlson Feb 2016 #95
The negatives on Sanders may start to come into play Gothmog Apr 2016 #96
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