2016 Postmortem

Bluenorthwest

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154. Can't follow your own plot? Twice you offered links to the Stockholm thread to characterize Sanders

Wed Feb 3, 2016, 11:27 PM

Feb 2016

supporters, of which I am one, of not calling out such bigoted shit. I'm in that very thread, as are many other Bernie supporters, calling out that bigoted shit with great gusto. So it is not right of you to characterize me and others by the actions of someone you know we have castigated.

Someone had to point out that the link you posted is full of Bernie supporters like me calling out the racism and homophobia in that thread. So that's what I'm doing. Racism and homophobia, by the way. So how gay people respond to that is also pertinent and you can see how I responded as a gay Bernie supporter in your own link so I am pointing out that. Because I'm on record and your reporting of that thread is not honest about what is said in it by Bernie supporters including me a gay Bernie supporter who really mouthed off in that thread and others to that poster.

I want that to be clearly understood by all parties. Your characterization needed to be challenged and I did so. And rather than respond you insulted me for reasons of your own.

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All this shit implying Sanders supporters are racists and sexists needs to stop. [View all] Odin2005 Feb 2016 OP

Thank God Sanders supporters are behaving so well. Metric System Feb 2016 #1

No one is behaving Armstead Feb 2016 #2

Yes Depaysement Feb 2016 #31

I think you meant the 840high Feb 2016 #42

IKR? workinclasszero Feb 2016 #69

You start the shit, and we finish it off. frylock Feb 2016 #75

Hillary has been attacked on DU since before Sanders even announced. Metric System Feb 2016 #96

Hillary has been called to task for her votes and policy positions. frylock Feb 2016 #97

Is that why women are told to stop voting with their vaginas dlwickham Feb 2016 #120

Take that up with the women who say that. frylock Feb 2016 #138

It's men and women saying it dlwickham Feb 2016 #197

I'm with frylock. Take up with the women who say that. I am a woman and I AM NOT VOTING Luminous Animal Feb 2016 #149

The assertion that women vote only with their vagina is sexist and shouldn't be tolerated at DU! Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #200

NO women vote "with their vagina", LA PeaceNikki Feb 2016 #203

Which I don't get scscholar Feb 2016 #156

Well, we each have our own experiences which Glamrock Feb 2016 #173

Our best hope for what, exactly? Art_from_Ark Feb 2016 #179

Hear those crickets? TexasMommaWithAHat Feb 2016 #207

She absolutely is not. She will lose the general. She's an awful campaigner and has too much baggage cui bono Feb 2016 #182

Are you kidding? She is doing nothing to attract the 63% eridani Feb 2016 #189

agree mgmaggiemg Feb 2016 #128

Most of us on both sides are behaving fine. Its the loud few who like a dirty fight screwing it up. phleshdef Feb 2016 #81

HRC supporters need to look in a mirror. Projection is an ugly thing Feeling the Bern Feb 2016 #103

Word. jonestonesusa Feb 2016 #175

yeah we are problem is like Faux PatrynXX Feb 2016 #118

Let's not create a circular firing squad. Jenny_92808 Feb 2016 #121

great mgmaggiemg Feb 2016 #134

From the FWIW Dept Stonepounder Feb 2016 #130

It won't. hifiguy Feb 2016 #3

They would rather discuss supporters than candidates and issues. beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #9

Policy-wise there's an anvil on the Sanders side of the scale hifiguy Feb 2016 #15

Do they even realize they have a candidate? beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #19

Do they even realize they have a candidate? AlbertCat Feb 2016 #119

When they can't win on policy... Whatever It Takes!(tm) arcane1 Feb 2016 #4

It's been going on for months. HerbChestnut Feb 2016 #5

So how would you have Black people respond to ... well ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #6

Great post Gothmog Feb 2016 #8

this black person responds to individuals noiretextatique Feb 2016 #11

Good for you ... Do you call on (the few/many) Bernie supporters on DU, and elsewhere ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #29

+1 uponit7771 Feb 2016 #39

of course i call them out...i call out all racists noiretextatique Feb 2016 #40

I Must have missed you ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #46

Of course, Willy self deleted that after you posted the link to it. Dr Hobbitstein Feb 2016 #104

No doubt, WillyT did it at the insistence of those pretending the shit doesn't happen ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #107

Ah, a thread also addressing LGBT, in which I gave that poster no quarter, I am a Bernie supporter Bluenorthwest Feb 2016 #114

Whatever are you talking about ... besides, once again,making yourself into a victim? 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #136

Can't follow your own plot? Twice you offered links to the Stockholm thread to characterize Sanders Bluenorthwest Feb 2016 #154

That post had 56 recs and a couple hundred response ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #163

Who has been posting racist/sexist stuff? JDPriestly Feb 2016 #100

Come on, JD ... not you, too! "Who? What? ... I've never seen it! Can you post a link?" ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #111

I just addressed the link you posted. You should apologize to me and the other Bernie supporters in Bluenorthwest Feb 2016 #117

I'm sorry that I do not make my every post about you! Feel better? eom. 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #137

That is just evasive bullying behavior that does not impress me. Address the points I made to you. Bluenorthwest Feb 2016 #158

LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #166

Most of it has come from Hillary supporters AgingAmerican Feb 2016 #116

LOL ... I'll tell you what ... You post a thread with a HRC making a racist statement ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #142

Where's Waldo? AgingAmerican Feb 2016 #152

Commenting on the lack of diversity of Bernie's crowd is racist? Do tell. eom 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #187

The vote in Iowa among people of color was around jonestonesusa Feb 2016 #176

You are confusing genuine Bernie supporters with... Odin2005 Feb 2016 #12

Nope ...right here on du... There have been many AAs book marking post of this shit uponit7771 Feb 2016 #34

I am an AA, and I have seen all manner of racist shit here since I joined in 2002 noiretextatique Feb 2016 #44

Sorry ... seem to have fallen for the narrative ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #55

+1 uponit7771 Feb 2016 #133

So Sanders isn't racist. AlbertCat Feb 2016 #146

Strawman Alert ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #160

Most of the time being white is an absence of problems. AlbertCat Feb 2016 #164

I'm done with you ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #169

I'm done with you ... AlbertCat Feb 2016 #170

Yes they have implied it on occasion, but thankfully rarely. Kentonio Feb 2016 #192

I guess that somehow that "implies" that ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #194

Sure, I'd like to learn more. Kentonio Feb 2016 #195

Was the "white flight" a matter of racism? ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #196

I've never seen anyone in the AA forum calling Sanders a racist. Empowerer Feb 2016 #67

The first 50 times it's said it may be a mistake, but by now I think it's pretty clear it's Number23 Feb 2016 #95

"I'm done with folks that act like they can't see what's going on around here ..." NanceGreggs Feb 2016 #177

I guess the fish really don't notice the water they swim in ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #186

Or, lying. eom. 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #112

No, Empowerer, you have not seen anyone in the AA forum calling Sanders a racist... Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #204

How is one to distinguish "genuine Bernie supporters" from the non-genuine? ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #37

are you saying that all Sanders' supporter are racists and sexists? noiretextatique Feb 2016 #49

nd you know that ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #59

I'm talking about the corporate economic establishment. Odin2005 Feb 2016 #50

I know ... they are, largely, referred to as trump supporters. But ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #62

+1000 Bobbie Jo Feb 2016 #14

Like this Generic Other Feb 2016 #18

No, thank you ... I'd rather call them on their shit, than song a negro spiritual. But, thanks! eom 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #43

Are you implying that African Americans who support Sanders Generic Other Feb 2016 #87

Nope ... Not at all. And you know that. I have said it, repeatedly. ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #105

And you know that. AlbertCat Feb 2016 #150

Okay ... That has to be the absolute stupidest response I have seen in weeks ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #162

That has to be the absolute stupidest response I have seen in weeks AlbertCat Feb 2016 #165

I don't understand your point Jenny_92808 Feb 2016 #143

Beautiful!!! Jenny_92808 Feb 2016 #140

+1, They're going to ask for a link... Like they usually do uponit7771 Feb 2016 #30

Truth. nt LexVegas Feb 2016 #35

It's pretty fucked up that the demand is to stop calling out racism and sexism rather than PeaceNikki Feb 2016 #45

Nobody is demanding that people should not call out racists and sexists. Odin2005 Feb 2016 #54

You keep dancing around the truth. They are racists and sexists. PeaceNikki Feb 2016 #70

They ARE being told to STFU. Odin2005 Feb 2016 #89

Oh, I missed the thread where you told them to STFU. PeaceNikki Feb 2016 #91

I haven't run into such a post since I came back a couple weeks ago. Odin2005 Feb 2016 #101

Okay ... That explains why you posted the OP to DU ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #145

They are? With very few - and I mean VERY few - exceptions, the racist and sexist remarks not Empowerer Feb 2016 #144

A certain Dr.Martin Luther King, Jr., quote comes to mind, here. eom 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #147

+1! eom BlueMTexpat Feb 2016 #94

+1 uponit7771 Feb 2016 #129

Then, say that ... along with condemning those idiots for their racist/sexist shit ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #78

Thanks for proving my point. Odin2005 Feb 2016 #84

LOL ... Twilight - fucking - Zone ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #148

I don't agree with this at all, call it out and get slammed here on DU... Go to the AA forum and uponit7771 Feb 2016 #127

No, please don't invite him/her to the AA Group. There are enough willingfully ignorant ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #153

You noticed that, Huh? ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #66

I see that happening, too. PeaceNikki Feb 2016 #83

Another great post Gothmog Feb 2016 #151

Exactly workinclasszero Feb 2016 #72

NAILED it. Number23 Feb 2016 #99

+1 uponit7771 Feb 2016 #126

What racist shit TeddyR Feb 2016 #68

I linked to three articles in the thread with a TON of examples. PeaceNikki Feb 2016 #73

Right on cue! eom. 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #88

lol!! he said this is what the response would be uponit7771 Feb 2016 #135

Whatever it takes to "win". They've got nothing, so they make shit up. GoneFishin Feb 2016 #7

Good job. Eko Feb 2016 #92

Anything to win. plus5mace Feb 2016 #10

I'm old enough to have seen this kind of crap before. hifiguy Feb 2016 #13

I'm only 29, but she seems very much like Nixon, to me. Odin2005 Feb 2016 #17

You are right, and the similarities hifiguy Feb 2016 #22

You forgot the lengthy Enemies List that Hillary and Bill keep. kath Feb 2016 #180

I remember that, too. Ken Burch Feb 2016 #32

Some are. The campaign is trying to address it. PeaceNikki Feb 2016 #16

Hillary supporters are like Hillary herself. They are authoritarians and they play dirty AZ Progressive Feb 2016 #20

Explain the ones who were over the top anti Hillary in 2008 and OTT pro Hillary in 2016? Fumesucker Feb 2016 #24

What matters is, the Beltway wants her...and that makes anything permissible and defensible. Ken Burch Feb 2016 #28

They joined a fanclub. They're Beliebers hifiguy Feb 2016 #33

Ah, the old two wrongs make a right red herring Cary Feb 2016 #77

Has nothing to do with wrong or right and everything to do with consistency Fumesucker Feb 2016 #132

God do I agree. I spent some time reviewing 2008 threads today and some of these people Bluenorthwest Feb 2016 #171

They've already alienated many on the left beyond hope of recovery. Why stop now? pa28 Feb 2016 #21

They obviously have never heard of Molly Ivins' First Rule of Holes: hifiguy Feb 2016 #23

Drama addiction Fumesucker Feb 2016 #26

Some Sanders supporters made mistakes in tone...but the vast majority have learned. Ken Burch Feb 2016 #25

"indifference" would be a step up Bobbie Jo Feb 2016 #47

THIS is going to stop Trajan Feb 2016 #51

Sanders supporters don't dismiss the need to fight racism. Ken Burch Feb 2016 #53

Calling us "dismissive" is something bordering on slander. Odin2005 Feb 2016 #58

Sue me. Bobbie Jo Feb 2016 #76

That attitude right there. nt thereismore Feb 2016 #82

I was speaking to the "attitude." Bobbie Jo Feb 2016 #86

See for yourself: AlbertCat Feb 2016 #157

Case in point Bobbie Jo Feb 2016 #167

LOL ... Did you miss this ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #188

Naw... naw... pretty damn dismissive... pathologically so uponit7771 Feb 2016 #124

Amen an amen!!! Dismissive starting with BLM until the optics weren't favorable uponit7771 Feb 2016 #123

How many times do you need to be told that NO ONE has said that ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #155

Bernie doesn't put economic justice before social justice. He never has. Ken Burch Feb 2016 #161

Okay ... But know ... you not accepting the proof offered ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #168

You never offered any proof. Ken Burch Feb 2016 #172

I don't think Sanders or his supporters are racist or sexist mythology Feb 2016 #27

********DING DING DING******** uponit7771 Feb 2016 #125

They aren't unique to the Sanders campaign, but it's a real problem. PeaceNikki Feb 2016 #36

I'm not saying there are not asshole Bernie supporters. Odin2005 Feb 2016 #48

Not just assholes. Racist, sexist assholes. A very vocal minority. PeaceNikki Feb 2016 #52

But you'd have to admit that the words of such people don't justify opposing Bernie as a candidate Ken Burch Feb 2016 #56

People will support or oppose candidates for a lot of real or stupid reasons. PeaceNikki Feb 2016 #60

The campaign is stopping it...we get it...so it's time to move on... Ken Burch Feb 2016 #63

They're trying. They can't stop it. It's the internet. PeaceNikki Feb 2016 #64

... and some of the shit shows up right here on DU!!! uponit7771 Feb 2016 #122

Oh, don't pay them no never-mind, Odin... MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #38

They can't compete on issues, so all they have are smears, lies, and people like David Brock Dragonfli Feb 2016 #41

Meh, let em do whatever they want. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #57

Ill tides and dark clouds lurk about, nobody of either camp trusts each others. /nt JPnoodleman Feb 2016 #61

I like the human race olddots Feb 2016 #65

I usually go with "it takes one to know one" LiberalArkie Feb 2016 #71

This Berniebro disagrees, the name calling shows they have nothing else and it's self destructive Fumesucker Feb 2016 #74

Because obviously, Hillary cannot run on the issues. Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #185

The Clintons called Obama a bag boy LittleBlue Feb 2016 #79

Ignore it HassleCat Feb 2016 #80

They are on the edge of the cliff right now and are simply losing it. Hope they have parachutes. litlbilly Feb 2016 #85

Am I the only one that doesn't care bigwillq Feb 2016 #90

Funny, 'cuz zentrum Feb 2016 #93

Arent you stereotyping them Eko Feb 2016 #98

remember that the *huge* surge in militia violence came after NAFTA, and reflected Perot's MisterP Feb 2016 #102

It's easier than actually arguing the issues. Republicans do it all the time. jalan48 Feb 2016 #106

BUT-- I'm a Social Justice Warrior AND a Working Class White Man! John Poet Feb 2016 #108

Bernie dared to challenge the throne, so it's time to lob as much shit at him Feeling the Bern Feb 2016 #109

That is a great cabinet! Odin2005 Feb 2016 #110

But the problem is, I can't complete the cabinet Feeling the Bern Feb 2016 #113

Well, you could always axe the DHS entirely. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #131

Agreed, along with the ONDCP. Feeling the Bern Feb 2016 #174

YES! kath Feb 2016 #181

My 25 y.o. son has already told me he is leaving the party mmonk Feb 2016 #115

I Dont Know One Person Who Supports Hillary billhicks76 Feb 2016 #139

In this regard Hillary supporters are humbled_opinion Feb 2016 #141

Let me tell you about Sanders supporters here in Texas. Avalux Feb 2016 #159

Too late. Thinking Democrats of all races, genders, and sexual orientations will never Zorra Feb 2016 #178

Ms. "race nagging" herself speaks of integrity? seaglass Feb 2016 #191

Reality check: Lorien Feb 2016 #183

That article says what I have been wanting to say for a while, but... Odin2005 Feb 2016 #190

Good luck with that. Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #184

Their toolkit has about three tools. FlatBaroque Feb 2016 #193

It's never going away. Our side of the political spectrum created this when we decided... MadDAsHell Feb 2016 #198

No. Clinton supporters aren't pushing anything. I AM independently asserting that Bernie Sanders Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #199

That and threats are all she has Lorien Feb 2016 #201

Bernie Sanders And Hillary Clinton Are Actually Fighting About Barack Obama Gothmog Feb 2016 #202

Check out this article: kath Feb 2016 #205

Or, y'all need to stop tripping. Skinner is under your bus with Planned Parenthood and bettyellen Feb 2016 #206