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Lucinda (30,868 posts)

145. As of January 31

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he has raised IN TOTAL $74,369,254 - which is over 25 million LESS - than the ad buy totals for just the primary in New Hampshire.

And if you count just the Republican 80% spent, they still spent more than he has raised in total so far.
He currently does not have the financial support to run a GE campaign. They will have to raise money, tons of it, to be competitive in the GE.

https://www.opensecrets.org/pres16/candidate.php?cycle=2016&id=N00000528&type=f

Hillary has raised more in total, but not nearly enough to bankroll a GE run yet. The advantage she has over Bernie financially, is the SuperPAC money. I want the big money out of politics as much as anyone does, but as long as the Republicans are making use of it, I am glad she is too.

https://www.opensecrets.org/pres16/candidate.php?id=N00000019

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172 replies	Author	Time	Post
Hillary isn't owned by anyone. [View all]	boston bean	Feb 2016	OP
It's facile. An indication of the lack of substantive arguments against her candidacy.	DanTex	Feb 2016	#1
You mean like...	HerbChestnut	Feb 2016	#20
Non-sequitur, but I can see why you want to change the subject.	DanTex	Feb 2016	#24
I was responding to your "lack of substantive arguments against her candidacy" remark.	HerbChestnut	Feb 2016	#29
Well the OP was about the "owned by banks" nonsense.	DanTex	Feb 2016	#31
If you're talking about a position that he held 30+ years ago, then yeah, I do want to go there.	HerbChestnut	Feb 2016	#34
Of course you don't. And the guns either. At least we can agree that "owned by banks" is nonsense.	DanTex	Feb 2016	#37
I think you misread my post.	HerbChestnut	Feb 2016	#52
From bank employees. Do you know any bank employees?	DanTex	Feb 2016	#54
I live in the wrong part of the country to know any bank employees.	HerbChestnut	Feb 2016	#56
I do, I am even married to a former bank employee. Sadly I don't think any of the one's I know	A Simple Game	Feb 2016	#92
She Is Lying	billhicks76	Feb 2016	#105
No, I don't think so, the OP didn't mention banks. You just made that up.	notadmblnd	Feb 2016	#60
Nonsense. Absolute nonsense.	Old Crow	Feb 2016	#97
Hey, corporations are people!	AtomicKitten	Feb 2016	#100
LOL!	Old Crow	Feb 2016	#103
The word banks or any recerence to them is not in the op so.....	SwampG8r	Feb 2016	#146
LOL!	Rosa Luxemburg	Feb 2016	#50
What is lacking are substantive arguments FOR her candidacy.	Warren DeMontague	Feb 2016	#66
I find it weird that people who don't support her just make these wild assumptions about	DanTex	Feb 2016	#69
Its not assumptions about people who support her.	Warren DeMontague	Feb 2016	#78
^^^ so.much.this ^^^	Hiraeth	Feb 2016	#76
+1	uponit7771	Feb 2016	#112
Yes she is....corporate donors own her.	Punkingal	Feb 2016	#2
This	musiclawyer	Feb 2016	#7
He sure has a great connection with Lockheed Martin and he has maintained a relationship	Thinkingabout	Feb 2016	#57
But those corporations are Genuine and Authentic.	LuvLoogie	Feb 2016	#74
Corporations are the same, and a revolution will never	Thinkingabout	Feb 2016	#158
Bullshit...that is a blatant lie about the NRA.	Punkingal	Feb 2016	#110
Nope, it is true, the NRA donated $18,000 to defeat Sanders opponent when	Thinkingabout	Feb 2016	#159
Sanders does not take money from the NRA which is what you are inferring. That is a lie.	Punkingal	Feb 2016	#164
Go back and read my post again, I did not say he took the money, I said the NRA	Thinkingabout	Feb 2016	#165
Please list all his contributions from Lockheed Martin and the NRA.	Admiral Loinpresser	Feb 2016	#155
Did you see any place I stated he took money? He has talked about going after the defense spending	Thinkingabout	Feb 2016	#161
Bernie is honest about pork. Hillary lies like a rug about Wall Street and the IWR.	Admiral Loinpresser	Feb 2016	#162
She is, the op is in serious denial.	JRLeft	Feb 2016	#17
^^^THIS^^^	valerief	Feb 2016	#89
Kinda weird now when I see these silly threads I have to look to see if it's the Hillary section	PatrynXX	Feb 2016	#90
Sorry but she is the definition of Purchased Politician.	RiverLover	Feb 2016	#3
How would she provide that payoff?	Lucinda	Feb 2016	#6
POTUS can influence policy.	frylock	Feb 2016	#21
With a congress that people say won't work with her?	Lucinda	Feb 2016	#38
So you're saying that Obama has been ineffective?	frylock	Feb 2016	#45
Nope. He's done well with the congress he drew. But I'm told Hillary	Lucinda	Feb 2016	#49
They'll get the things done that they align with.	frylock	Feb 2016	#58
So the Republicans would help her pay off the guys that helped her take the POTUS	Lucinda	Feb 2016	#68
They're ALL payed by the same guys.	frylock	Feb 2016	#72
Not even my second. n/t	Lucinda	Feb 2016	#124
You should join the conversation over here.	frylock	Feb 2016	#130
I'm glad she is raising money. You'd better believe Bernie will need piles of it too	Lucinda	Feb 2016	#134
Try and keep up. Bernie pulled in 3.5 milly from people like me in the last two days.	frylock	Feb 2016	#136
How far do you think that would go in the GE. Tiny NH has already been hit with 100 million	Lucinda	Feb 2016	#139
Let me type this out again for you.	frylock	Feb 2016	#140
100 MILLION DOLLARS for a handful of days worth of ads in one tiny state.	Lucinda	Feb 2016	#141
Bernie is pulling more money than Hillary. Explain to me like I'm 5 years old..	frylock	Feb 2016	#144
As of January 31	Lucinda	Feb 2016	#145
POTUS leads Congress	HerbChestnut	Feb 2016	#22
They purchase both branches of government (and the SC by extebnsion)	Armstead	Feb 2016	#41
Well...there ya go then!	Lucinda	Feb 2016	#46
By ensuring the status quo is maintained via veto power if necessary	shawn703	Feb 2016	#104
Seems like a pretty bad investment if they have to wait around for congress	Lucinda	Feb 2016	#118
If you haven't noticed,	RichVRichV	Feb 2016	#114
So they are going to pass pro-business legislation that she wants passed, to pay off	Lucinda	Feb 2016	#123
Do you feel the Republicans hate Obama and try to block everything he does?	RichVRichV	Feb 2016	#135
Ya she may not be owned but she acts like she is rented to the highest bidder	awake	Feb 2016	#4
My thought exactly!	CaliforniaPeggy	Feb 2016	#30
Perfect.	bvf	Feb 2016	#39
The OP is correct. Hillary isn't owned by any one... she's owned by a LOT of people!	reformist2	Feb 2016	#5
and corporations nt	Jarqui	Feb 2016	#8
Haven't you heard?	KansDem	Feb 2016	#80
Uh huh	oregonjen	Feb 2016	#9
They made her take the money?	Jefferson23	Feb 2016	#10
During her career in elected office.	Lucinda	Feb 2016	#59
I know what it translates to and who they work for, but thanks. n/t	Jefferson23	Feb 2016	#61
I'm thinking there will be some remorse	musiclawyer	Feb 2016	#11
Lol!	beam me up scottie	Feb 2016	#16
just about all politicians are beholding to	DesertFlower	Feb 2016	#12
Her own mind	Carolina	Feb 2016	#13
I've never said she was owned.	retrowire	Feb 2016	#14
She isn't owned, it's more like a partnership.	morningfog	Feb 2016	#15
+1. n/t	Jefferson23	Feb 2016	#27
LOL!	reformist2	Feb 2016	#55
Took the post right off of my keyboard!	dflprincess	Feb 2016	#84
It's more like rented, I agree. After the proper favors are granted politically, she will be done	Dragonfli	Feb 2016	#18
That Jury Is Pretty Much In... But We DO Know She'll Say Almost Anything For Votes...	WillyT	Feb 2016	#19
Corporations don't make donations -- they make purchases	nichomachus	Feb 2016	#23
You have nailed it solid!	modestybl	Feb 2016	#138
Leased, then?	AzDar	Feb 2016	#25
she is compromised by all of the money that she has taken from the titans of industry and commerce	virtualobserver	Feb 2016	#26
Agreed. She's more of a series of a short-term leases rather than a purchase.	Attorney in Texas	Feb 2016	#28
The corporations currently have her on retainer	Deny and Shred	Feb 2016	#156
No one who gets big corporate donations EVER defies the corporations who made them.	Ken Burch	Feb 2016	#32
Denial ain't just a river in Egypt.	Odin2005	Feb 2016	#33
Let's stop acting like Citizens United doesn't exist for a reason. nt	RedCappedBandit	Feb 2016	#35
You're not being honest with yourself	EdwardBernays	Feb 2016	#36
You know what's even more insulting?	Android3.14	Feb 2016	#40
I'm sure you would agree that the republicans are "owned" by their donors,	jkbRN	Feb 2016	#42
Owned implies she is a separate entity from that which does the owning, she is not owned....	JPnoodleman	Feb 2016	#43
Precisely my thoughts as well	sammythecat	Feb 2016	#95
Seems right.	HassleCat	Feb 2016	#44
No, owned is probably not the proper analogy	tularetom	Feb 2016	#47
no - she's not owned by the establishment	Locrian	Feb 2016	#151
You didn't ask with a cherry and sugar on top.	earthside	Feb 2016	#48
So she'll have no problem returning Goldman Sachs' donations? n/t	brentspeak	Feb 2016	#51
here's the meaning	pinebox	Feb 2016	#53
That's the urban dictionary definition, not the real definition. nt	Cali_Democrat	Feb 2016	#67
Actually it is	pinebox	Feb 2016	#143
This message was self-deleted by its author	1000words	Feb 2016	#62
She's owned by her own political ambition. Whatever it takes.	Broward	Feb 2016	#63
Message auto-removed	Name removed	Feb 2016	#64
All politicians are owned by someone	bigwillq	Feb 2016	#65
Those big banks must be run by morons	DefenseLawyer	Feb 2016	#70
Of course she's not . . .	Nanjeanne	Feb 2016	#71
Thank you	mcar	Feb 2016	#73
Rented then, fine.	Motown_Johnny	Feb 2016	#75
Sure she is. And there's no climate change.	GoneOffShore	Feb 2016	#77
She courts	saltpoint	Feb 2016	#79
.	NRaleighLiberal	Feb 2016	#81
You're joking, right?	RoccoR5955	Feb 2016	#82
I agree...	DUbeornot2be	Feb 2016	#83
It's a blanket response NRA has bought and pain for the DNC	PatrynXX	Feb 2016	#85
Keep repeating that. nt	mother earth	Feb 2016	#86
Yes, it may well be insulting ... TO YOU.	DrBulldog	Feb 2016	#87
No of course not because um 911	DVRacer	Feb 2016	#88
and she's anti-pharma and anti-Wall Street and anti-war and anti-deportation	MisterP	Feb 2016	#91
Her corporate funded super PACs say otherwise...	hoosierlib	Feb 2016	#93
Oh look, another hit and run Bullshit post.	litlbilly	Feb 2016	#94
Just got a call from John Podesta.	saltpoint	Feb 2016	#96
:eyeroll:	Schema Thing	Feb 2016	#98
Right...she's not by anyone	Roland99	Feb 2016	#99
Lol	Loudestlib	Feb 2016	#101
She's Owned By Money And Ego	billhicks76	Feb 2016	#102
agree	mgmaggiemg	Feb 2016	#106
ROFLMAO!!! That's a good one!! She is bought and paid for....	bowens43	Feb 2016	#107
She is owned by entities, not actual humans	AgingAmerican	Feb 2016	#108
Thank you. What's the real stinker is she wants that for the rest of us too.	nc4bo	Feb 2016	#115
She's using those big bank SOB's! Taking $250k a speech from them.. And that's all they're getting..	raindaddy	Feb 2016	#109
This is all Sanders has right now, impugn her integrity and claim he's running a clean campaign	uponit7771	Feb 2016	#111
"It's insulting as all hell"	mindwalker_i	Feb 2016	#113
There's a lady who's sure all that glitters is gold...	Tommymac	Feb 2016	#116
Yes she is. Three SuperPAC's	Flying Phoenix	Feb 2016	#117
Bain Fucking Capital	Fuddnik	Feb 2016	#119
Yes, Bain Capital is the cherry on top of the corruption sundae.	virtualobserver	Feb 2016	#122
Well corporations aren't people so yeah, she isn't.	Fearless	Feb 2016	#120
So Where Did The Clinton's Get Their $130 Million Dollar Nest Egg?	scottie55	Feb 2016	#121
HaHaHaHa! Good One!	mckara	Feb 2016	#125
I don't believe she is owned by anyone. I respect Hillary Clinton.	californiabernin	Feb 2016	#126
lordy, sweetheart	ellennelle	Feb 2016	#127
Most wrong post of the year	Doctor_J	Feb 2016	#128
It's hard, I know. But the truth shall set you free.	azmom	Feb 2016	#129
She isn't owned by any one.	Red Oak	Feb 2016	#131
Then you should say the same about republicans	Nyan	Feb 2016	#132
No one person owns her. She is traded publicly.	Katashi_itto	Feb 2016	#133
ROFLMAO	SoapBox	Feb 2016	#137
Hillary is not owned by the 1%er club	Cassiopeia	Feb 2016	#142
She's owned and her voting record proves it. nt	Live and Learn	Feb 2016	#147
I wonder why the people saying Hillary is owned by (fill in the blank), don't show the evidence.	betsuni	Feb 2016	#148
OK here is some evidence for you	AgingAmerican	Feb 2016	#149
OMG WORDS!111!!!!!	betsuni	Feb 2016	#157
And dollar figures!	AgingAmerican	Feb 2016	#166
So what? If I give you a dollar will you do whatever I tell you to do?	betsuni	Feb 2016	#167
If you were paying $500k, plenty of people would do whatever you asked. nt	LittleBlue	Feb 2016	#170
But I wouldn't. Maybe that's why I don't understand this.	betsuni	Feb 2016	#172
"It's insulting as all hell." ... I think that's their motivation.	NurseJackie	Feb 2016	#150
Hillary merely belongs to a club that pays her to stay as a member....	islandmkl	Feb 2016	#152
Thanks for the laugh	4dsc	Feb 2016	#153
Maybe. Maybe not. She certainly has conflict of interest problems.	cali	Feb 2016	#154
Clinton is forced to take the money? Clinton is forced to take money from those she claims	Jefferson23	Feb 2016	#160
What a load of crap.	alarimer	Feb 2016	#163
She just rents herself out	SoLeftIAmRight	Feb 2016	#168
Understand the word context?	cherokeeprogressive	Feb 2016	#169
Yeah. keep telling yourself that.	kath	Feb 2016	#171

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