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MADem

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23. He obviously does NOT know if he suggests that shi'a, Persian - Speaking, southwest
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 12:38 PM
Feb 2016

Asian Iran "team up" with sunni, Arabic speaking, Middle Eastern Saudi Arabia to "solve" the Syrian problem--as though they're good pals with no differences who just didn't think of that, themselves and needed the Wise Old American to clue them in. And more to the point, he spoke, with startlingly incorrect certainty, as though they've been sitting on the sidelines observing without putting their beak in to this point.

He's absolutely without any portfolio on this issue. He is beyond naive to the point of clueless on the matters at hand. He should read a newspaper before he shoots off his mouth.

When he made those unhinged remarks, it was a very frightening thing to behold--it reminded me of the way George Bush used to yammer on as a candidate about his simplistic foreign policy goals. People said "Don't worry--he'll get good advisors." We saw what he ended up with. It's not something you can take a crash course in--it's clear to me he doesn't understand the issues on the ground today and he sure as heck doesn't understand the history of the region.

And--by all accounts--he is entirely UNINTERESTED in learning.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/nov/17/bernie-sanders-foreign-policy-platform-lacking


It’s clear that Sanders would rather focus on his longtime hobby horse: political revolution and class-based economics. “I understand there are some who think that because of this attack we no longer have the capability to address the collapse of the American middle class. I disagree,” Sanders said in a speech in Cleveland on Monday night. “Our country and the world can and will defeat Isis and at the same time, we will rebuild our disappearing middle class.”

The speech, in which he called for an international effort to “eliminate the stain of Isis from this world”, was Sanders’s first in-depth effort to address the issues surrounding Paris. During the Democratic debate, just 24 hours after the attacks, Sanders spent minimal time talking about the tragedy in his opening statement before abruptly segueing to his usual campaign talking points on domestic economic populism. What’s more, a Sanders aide had actively argued with the network hosting the debate, CBS, when the moderators signaled they would lead with a discussion of the terrorist strikes.


http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/bernie-sanders-foreign-policy-deficit-218431

When asked whether Sanders has a full-time campaign staffer who handles foreign policy issues, his campaign did not respond. And several people whom the Sanders campaign has cited as sources of national security advice tell POLITICO they barely know the socialist firebrand.
“Apparently I had a conversation with him last August,” said Tamara Cofman Wittes, a Brookings Institution Middle East scholar, after checking her calendar upon hearing that her name was on a list of people the Sanders campaign said he had consulted in recent months. “My vague recollection is that it was about (the Islamic State) but I don't really remember any of the details.” Wittes added that she backs Clinton.
“I don’t know how I got on Bernie Sanders’ list,” said Ray Takeyh, an Iran scholar at the Council on Foreign Relations who says he spoke to Sanders once or twice about the Iran nuclear deal at Sanders’ request in mid-2015.
With a recent NBC poll showing that only 16 percent of Democratic primary voters call foreign policy or terrorism the most important issue to them, it may be that Sanders can afford to put off the task of building his national security profile until a potential nomination — and the higher expectations of a general election — comes within closer reach. But it is an axiom of presidential politics is that candidates must pass the proverbial “commander in chief test” if they hope to be elected.


Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/bernie-sanders-foreign-policy-deficit-218431#ixzz3zDYkCsJw


There's a REASON the GOP hasn't tried to ding him on these issues. And it's not because he's a powerhouse of knowledge, either--they're holding their fire in the event they need it for a general election. And he'll be annihilated.
Probably better than a one-note wonder who doesn't know that Iran and Saudi Arabia are MADem Feb 2016 #1
Yes Saudi Arabia is that adversary we provide billions of $ in weapons systems each year. Cheese Sandwich Feb 2016 #3
And telling them to team up with their adversary is the way to roll! MADem Feb 2016 #19
Whew...you missed the point all together. George II Feb 2016 #56
Would Obama call Iran our adversary now? nt grasswire Feb 2016 #5
Of course ProgressiveCentrist Feb 2016 #10
Of course. JaneyVee Feb 2016 #17
Obama's not the King of Saudi Arabia. MADem Feb 2016 #18
Save the day MADem! elias49 Feb 2016 #39
I lived there for many years, but I never had the expertise of dozens of country desks at my MADem Feb 2016 #54
He appears to certainly know more than the person who thinks ISIS was caused by climate change. George II Feb 2016 #60
I believe the comment was that Iran and Saudi Arabia are adversaries, no mention of the US. George II Feb 2016 #58
Bernie knows. He just isn't a fatalist Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #15
He obviously does NOT know if he suggests that shi'a, Persian - Speaking, southwest MADem Feb 2016 #23
So what? Egypt and Israel have been at peace for over 36 years. Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #25
What does that have to do with what I just said? MADem Feb 2016 #29
It is about your conclusion and my ability to question it. Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #30
No. You just completely changed the subject and expected me to not say anything about that. MADem Feb 2016 #35
It was an example of people being wrong about enemies in the middle east. Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #37
I think you need to study that agreement closely. It had EVERYTHING to do with MADem Feb 2016 #46
No s**t right? workinclasszero Feb 2016 #24
Hillary does only Neo-Conservative foreign policy. Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #26
DITTO. Hillary is a neoconservative HAWK on foreign policy, John Poet Feb 2016 #33
It scares the shit out of me. MADem Feb 2016 #31
Fear, the real reason to support Hillary. Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #34
NAILED IT! beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #36
No--be afraid of Bush With Messy Hair, hiring maniacs with no portfolio like Comic Book King Weaver MADem Feb 2016 #38
What foreign policy vote has Bernie gotten wrong? Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #41
And she can even do it walking backwards in heels. nt Chezboo Feb 2016 #40
Sorry if I offend supporters of said weathervane oh08dem Feb 2016 #2
She's dynamic. applegrove Feb 2016 #4
She'll win by confusing the hell out of them. nt Live and Learn Feb 2016 #6
If by "weathervane" ... NanceGreggs Feb 2016 #7
Polls do not equal "on the ground events". Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Feb 2016 #8
It is very scary. tecelote Feb 2016 #9
Well what if we had done that in Afghanistan loyalsister Feb 2016 #11
I totally agree! tecelote Feb 2016 #12
She is always in favor of military action. Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #13
Ummm...foreign policy is a fluid situation. JaneyVee Feb 2016 #16
She has a lot of experience with being on the wrong side of history Betty Karlson Feb 2016 #20
She has no genuine foreign policy instincts of her own. TwilightGardener Feb 2016 #21
A weathervane can help you figure out where the bombs will land. (n/t) thesquanderer Feb 2016 #22
Quite simple - wait for Israel's stated position FlatBaroque Feb 2016 #27
War..... daleanime Feb 2016 #28
Does Bernie know the Soviet Union isn't around any more? Renew Deal Feb 2016 #32
Haha, Bernie Sanders is no Sarah Palin! nt thereismore Feb 2016 #42
Does Hillary know Turkey is in NATO? Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #43
Please stop digging a hole too deep to get out of. That's just the most absurd statement I've seen MADem Feb 2016 #47
I know she knows that. My point being that the no fly zone is nuts. Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #48
No fly zones work beautifully if all the players cooperate. MADem Feb 2016 #49
But you are the one who argues that adversaries can't work together! Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #50
Russia and the USA are superpowers, not regional actors. MADem Feb 2016 #51
Which is why I mentioned Turkey, who already shot down a Russian plane. n/t Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #52
That encroached in THEIR air space. Back in NOVEMBER. MADem Feb 2016 #53
But a no fly zone would be asking for more of these incidents. Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #55
Excruciatingly simply. VulgarPoet Feb 2016 #44
Not just weathervane .... Myrina Feb 2016 #45
Just who are you talking about? George II Feb 2016 #57
Circular reasoning treestar Feb 2016 #59
Perched on rooftop and well-lubricated. AtomicKitten Feb 2016 #61
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