2016 Postmortem

leftynyc

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211. Agree

Thu Feb 4, 2016, 02:34 PM

Feb 2016

Until they change the 2nd, we're going to be a gun culture. I don't understand the fetish some people have - I'm not talking about hunters or those who have a gun to protect their home - I'm talking about the ones that have arsenals and search for the black helicopters - I think they're lunatics.

If you asked me my top 10 issues - the supreme court would take up spaces 1-5 - that's how seriously I take it . So either Hillary or Bernie will be fine on that front but I've watched the republicans for decades and they will destroy Bernie - between the socialist label (most Americans couldn't tell you the difference between a communist or socialist to save their lives) and his promise to raise taxes, I really think he would get creamed. He's also too old and far too angry. That's why I'm supporting Hillary.

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BOOM! Barbara Boxer: Hillary is a progressive EVERY day. Bernie is a Democrat "some days." [View all] riversedge Feb 2016 OP

True or false: Admiral Loinpresser Feb 2016 #1

the Clinton fan club rejects reality and creates its own version. hobbit709 Feb 2016 #9

Crickets, crickets, crickets. n/t Admiral Loinpresser Feb 2016 #15

what a disgusting thing for her to say. I just lost a lot of roguevalley Feb 2016 #99

Not sure who you mean pandr32 Feb 2016 #169

Barbara boxer knows both candidates more then all of us yeoman6987 Feb 2016 #132

And she's a Democrat "some days" too. hobbit709 Feb 2016 #133

Maybe true depending on issue. yeoman6987 Feb 2016 #136

Like Bernie? BlueCaliDem Feb 2016 #178

Her opinion is wrong in this case Bradical79 Feb 2016 #145

Honestly, the India suing us is making me question my vote yeoman6987 Feb 2016 #152

Welcome to WTO world. n/t Admiral Loinpresser Feb 2016 #233

As much as I admire Barbara Boxer, she's a party loyalist. frylock Feb 2016 #147

Ms Boxer knows A LOT of things we peons aren't privvy to. Plucketeer Feb 2016 #162

Thank you for pointing that out pandr32 Feb 2016 #170

True. yeoman6987 Feb 2016 #174

The most fundamental part of progressive is “progress”. She effects progress. PeaceNikki Feb 2016 #155

Good read mikehiggins Feb 2016 #191

Read it again, it doesn't talk about financial help, but help with resources, guidance, connections. PeaceNikki Feb 2016 #194

I strongly disagree. Admiral Loinpresser Feb 2016 #225

Bernie should not have started this stupid meme. We have be two things or labels at once. riversedge Feb 2016 #33

Can't answer my question? Admiral Loinpresser Feb 2016 #37

Of course not. Talking points of the day come down, they don't sway. Fuddnik Feb 2016 #67

Oh, he's not afraid to debate. He's just horrible at it. BlueCaliDem Feb 2016 #182

Bernie Sanders is a conservative when it comes to guns. MoonRiver Feb 2016 #78

if hrc were 10% I would dislike her less roguevalley Feb 2016 #101

I answered your question with my post. Try some reading comprehension please. Thanks. riversedge Feb 2016 #88

No you didn't. Admiral Loinpresser Feb 2016 #151

I'm not sure what you meant either Bradical79 Feb 2016 #156

I think your "boom" fizzled before it even happened. Bubzer Feb 2016 #64

Hmmm. No response. jhart3333 Feb 2016 #79

Boxer voted no on the war and is soft on gun control (she sounds more like Bernie to me) Omaha Steve Feb 2016 #100

Maybe because Senator Boxer is a Democrat and Bernie is only one out of political expediency? BlueCaliDem Feb 2016 #187

Bernie's running although he doesn't want to-- Admiral Loinpresser Feb 2016 #237

Even better angrychair Feb 2016 #38

What exactly has she gotten "done" in the face of Repub opposition? blackspade Feb 2016 #65

True or false: I-VT became D-VT when it was convenient for his Presidential run? Algernon Moncrieff Feb 2016 #73

He became a Democrat because zalinda Feb 2016 #91

If he didn't like the party as-is, he should have run as an independent Algernon Moncrieff Feb 2016 #216

And then you would be whining that he is a spoiler. zalinda Feb 2016 #235

Boom goes the dynamite! Admiral Loinpresser Feb 2016 #238

DU has been filled with complaints about Republicans who became Democrats Algernon Moncrieff Feb 2016 #241

Only when Bernie started to rise zalinda Feb 2016 #247

He became a Democrat to fix your broken party. frylock Feb 2016 #154

My party was fine - thanks. Algernon Moncrieff Feb 2016 #215

Bill Clinton hasn't been in office for 15 years. frylock Feb 2016 #218

...and think about it -- Bernie Sanders was old then Algernon Moncrieff Feb 2016 #223

Ah good. More ageist bullshit. You should be proud. frylock Feb 2016 #224

umm. "your broken party"--Aren't you a Democrat? Just asking. riversedge Feb 2016 #220

Nope. frylock Feb 2016 #221

False. Admiral Loinpresser Feb 2016 #168

So it wasn't "responsible" of him to be a member of the Democratic party as Senator from Vermont Algernon Moncrieff Feb 2016 #217

+1 eom BlueMTexpat Feb 2016 #227

You have no idea what you're talking about. Admiral Loinpresser Feb 2016 #232

Mr "progressive" Bernie Sanders carries water for the NRA workinclasszero Feb 2016 #75

They love him so much they failed him with a D-. Fawke Em Feb 2016 #83

How the National Rifle Association helped get Bernie Sanders elected workinclasszero Feb 2016 #106

Hillary Clinton is responsible for more weapons of war being unleashed upon the world than Ikonoklast Feb 2016 #171

30000 plus americans die from totally unregulated guns in america..year after year workinclasszero Feb 2016 #176

And yet, Wayne LaPierre told his members to vote for Bernie workinclasszero Feb 2016 #189

With a D- rating from the NRA. eom zalinda Feb 2016 #87

Hillary carries water for the MIC Cassiopeia Feb 2016 #90

Yeah...a D- rated watercarrier... tex-wyo-dem Feb 2016 #96

Apparently he carries the water Goblinmonger Feb 2016 #150

Absolutely false. Admiral Loinpresser Feb 2016 #183

Yes, dpatbrown Feb 2016 #81

True Go Vols Feb 2016 #122

SHE'S A MODERATE, BECAUSE HER POSITIONS ARE HELD BY MOST AMERICANS! CSStrowbridge Feb 2016 #141

TRUE! in_cog_ni_to Feb 2016 #166

Bernie is a Democrat only when he needs to be liberal N proud Feb 2016 #2

who has Bernie Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #13

It really comes down to too much emphasis on labels, hollysmom Feb 2016 #22

It's about principals. tecelote Feb 2016 #45

Only when he needs something from the Democrats liberal N proud Feb 2016 #48

If he goes third party the Democrats zalinda Feb 2016 #97

I need something from the Democrats, and once again will probably be let down and disappointed. nt Snotcicles Feb 2016 #127

He's consistently acted and voted more like a Democrat... tex-wyo-dem Feb 2016 #138

But we're not supposed to point that out, remember? VulgarPoet Feb 2016 #198

Touche, twd Carolina Feb 2016 #242

Interesting! Explains a lot.... tex-wyo-dem Feb 2016 #245

Right...that explains her speaking payments from goldman sachs... Bubzer Feb 2016 #66

And 'beyond'? Are you sure you want to stick with that? blackspade Feb 2016 #70

Oh jesus help me.. !! pangaia Feb 2016 #112

Some people stick with their party, some don't. mwooldri Feb 2016 #146

Silly and if Clinton wanted to be referred to as a progressive she would not have Jefferson23 Feb 2016 #3

couldn't you say the same thing re Bernie and being a Dem? DrDan Feb 2016 #19

How are they equivalent when for one, the DNC has no issue with Bernie running, do they? Jefferson23 Feb 2016 #26

simple - Bernie did not label himself a Dem, then switched when he thought he could DrDan Feb 2016 #104

He is an Independent and transparently was accepted by the DNC to run on our ticket. Jefferson23 Feb 2016 #111

he WAS an independent - then HE changed DrDan Feb 2016 #114

Yea, I guess you missed the way he did that TRANSPARENTLY...to the DNC and they're Jefferson23 Feb 2016 #125

I don't think he is a phony at all - why try to put words in my mouth? DrDan Feb 2016 #129

I didn't put any words in your mouth, I asked you a question. Jefferson23 Feb 2016 #135

as Bernie gave himself two labels - Indy and Dem DrDan Feb 2016 #181

lol enjoy your obtuse sandwich. n/t Jefferson23 Feb 2016 #185

enjoy your denial. n/t DrDan Feb 2016 #190

you absolutely did - "you evidently feel he is a phony" DrDan Feb 2016 #188

My post#125, of which I will remind you, you did not post my quote in full. Jefferson23 Feb 2016 #192

There's only 30% of you out there, and maybe 5% give a shit about that "issue" frylock Feb 2016 #157

read my post #114 DrDan Feb 2016 #180

I agree. frylock Feb 2016 #193

That's something about Bernie that's always made me uncomfortable. NurseJackie Feb 2016 #4

I guess hearing the truth makes you uncomfortable. hobbit709 Feb 2016 #6

he could have caucused with Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #18

+1 stonecutter357 Feb 2016 #31

Is Barbara Boxer calling Hillary, the self-described moderate, a liar? Broward Feb 2016 #5

Yes. Ed Suspicious Feb 2016 #46

Then Hillary is a liar Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #7

Bullshit leftynyc Feb 2016 #40

Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2016 #58

Get lost newbie leftynyc Feb 2016 #59

I really have a hard time understanding your position on the gun manufacturers. A Simple Game Feb 2016 #63

Thank you! Fawke Em Feb 2016 #89

The fact is, each candidate is progressive on some issues and moderate on others ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #68

Beats the shit out of me leftynyc Feb 2016 #85

I think it a mistake for Bernie's campaign to get into the who is more progressive ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #110

And very divisive leftynyc Feb 2016 #126

Yep. But I get the sense that ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #161

It's what happens leftynyc Feb 2016 #173

Beats the shit out of me, too. I'm a Bernie supporter and no Nay Feb 2016 #200

Agree leftynyc Feb 2016 #211

Oh, no problem. We don't have to agree on who to vote for. I Nay Feb 2016 #213

Same here leftynyc Feb 2016 #214

She called herself a moderate. Was that a lie or not? Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #117

Did you NOT read what I just wrote leftynyc Feb 2016 #130

Yes I did. Now answer the question. Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #134

I did answer the question leftynyc Feb 2016 #142

I am not asking your opinion on if she is a progressive or moderate. Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #144

LOL - what utter crap leftynyc Feb 2016 #148

I am questioning her honesty. Nothing else. Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #175

K&R betsuni Feb 2016 #8

Sanders is right, the anti-gun nuts are wrong. Odin2005 Feb 2016 #10

the 'Democrat' that Boxer refers to is not the 'Democrat' of 30 years ago, either... islandmkl Feb 2016 #11

Thread win! Does anyone really think Abraham Lincoln or Teddy Roosevelt would have KingCharlemagne Feb 2016 #39

Party loyalty to a near-right wing tribe of neoliberals VulgarPoet Feb 2016 #12

Thank you! ejbr Feb 2016 #53

Massive win. ucrdem Feb 2016 #14

If believing delusional crap is your thing... MattSh Feb 2016 #16

Nice! DCBob Feb 2016 #17

Being a global lobbyist for Big Business as Sec of State was anything but progressive RiverLover Feb 2016 #20

You do know that is kind of one of State's job? My husband worked with an all american girl Feb 2016 #74

Actually, RiverLover Feb 2016 #115

I'm not sure, but I do know that our ambassador was fostering relationships with all american girl Feb 2016 #158

That has always bothered me about the State Department. Cleita Feb 2016 #201

I'm not sure what you mean by securty. all american girl Feb 2016 #205

Look at the American journalists kidnapped and beheaded for Cleita Feb 2016 #210

My wife has duty every other month or so Recursion Feb 2016 #240

The same Barbara Boxer who took Hillary to task over her Iraq war vote? pinebox Feb 2016 #21

Hillary helped push the coup in Honduras that sent many of those children KingCharlemagne Feb 2016 #42

Excellent! Puglover Feb 2016 #153

Brace yourself for accusations of vicious attacks On Sen Boxer. frylock Feb 2016 #163

lol pinebox Feb 2016 #164

More like whimper than boom. Hill and Barb are related through cali Feb 2016 #23

I'm cool . . . Gamecock Lefty Feb 2016 #24

I'm glad your beliefs are so strong that some posters on a message boards can sway you Armstead Feb 2016 #35

I know - that always makes me LOL bread_and_roses Feb 2016 #62

Way to hold true to core principles. Ed Suspicious Feb 2016 #50

Clinton ought not push this theme because it calls attention to her proud claim to be a moderate on Vote2016 Feb 2016 #25

Here are the videos~ RiverLover Feb 2016 #28

OUCH! Vote2016 Feb 2016 #34

except when shes a moderate Go Vols Feb 2016 #118

Says noted Corporatist Blue-Dog DLC DINO Conservadem Barbara Boxer Freddie Stubbs Feb 2016 #27

well said. And under the bus Boxer goes ericson00 Feb 2016 #29

After making that statement, she belongs there. Fawke Em Feb 2016 #44

K&R! stonecutter357 Feb 2016 #30

Neither Hillary or Barbara are progressive everyday. Both are funded by JRLeft Feb 2016 #32

Bernie is a bigger Democrat than any member of the party. alarimer Feb 2016 #36

BOOM: would Boxer prefer he caucus with the Rpublicans on some days Nanjeanne Feb 2016 #41

Wow. Barb's gone over to the dark side. Fawke Em Feb 2016 #43

K&R mcar Feb 2016 #47

Bernie doesn't take brides Geronimoe Feb 2016 #49

Yeah, cuz he's already married. lol. nt Nay Feb 2016 #199

Barbara knows where her bread is buttered. roody Feb 2016 #51

"Boom"? Don't you mean "splat"? The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2016 #52

WRONG. Bernie is a Progressive. Hillary is a DLC/Third Way corporate lackey, always. Roland99 Feb 2016 #54

Boom! Hillary did fund raisers for Boxer when she was in jeopardy of LOSING Omaha Steve Feb 2016 #55

+1 Bubzer Feb 2016 #177

+10000000 azmom Feb 2016 #234

Did Boxer look in the mirror when she said "some days" hobbit709 Feb 2016 #56

Hillary has called herself a moderate Bjornsdotter Feb 2016 #57

Well, if you redefine 'progressive' to mean maintaining the status quo..... blackspade Feb 2016 #60

Well, at least she's discussing issues for a change nxylas Feb 2016 #61

And Boxer only wants to fix things when dems have no power to do anything 2pooped2pop Feb 2016 #69

Even on the days she REFERS to HERSELF as MODERATE? (yeah, didn't think so) AzDar Feb 2016 #71

She was a progressive on the day she Voted for the Iraq War? Bread and Circus Feb 2016 #72

Didn't she campaign for Joe Lieberman? Nedsdag Feb 2016 #76

Democrat, Progressive, Independent, Progressive monicaangela Feb 2016 #77

Didn't her daughter marry Hillary's brother? Fawke Em Feb 2016 #80

Probably more toddler type Sander fans comments. Those comments are NOT progressive. Shameful riversedge Feb 2016 #98

You didn't even look at the comments, did you? frylock Feb 2016 #167

...... daleanime Feb 2016 #82

How is Hillary a progressive, exactly? MynameisBlarney Feb 2016 #84

This is the very same logic randr Feb 2016 #86

Burn. nt LexVegas Feb 2016 #92

Under the bus with you, babs! wyldwolf Feb 2016 #93

Remember the room full of red roses? OxQQme Feb 2016 #105

k&r DesertRat Feb 2016 #94

She says she is a mushy 'moderate' centrist AgingAmerican Feb 2016 #95

Barbara Boxer is right on most days. Not sure about some days like yesterday. nt thereismore Feb 2016 #102

For whom is the government going to work? Rebkeh Feb 2016 #103

K&R DesertRat Feb 2016 #107

Is that why she started off as a RepubliCON? RoccoR5955 Feb 2016 #108

Boxer is part of the Washington establishment left-of-center2012 Feb 2016 #109

I Don't Care yellowwoodII Feb 2016 #113

Boxer is the best. Bleacher Creature Feb 2016 #116

Barbary is apparently a liar Trajan Feb 2016 #119

total balderdash amborin Feb 2016 #120

What's in a name? retrowire Feb 2016 #121

And because Hillary takes corporate campaign donations--she's a slave to the corporations EVERYDAY CoffeeCat Feb 2016 #123

How awful of Boxer to call Hillary a liar. merrily Feb 2016 #124

DU rec for...nt SidDithers Feb 2016 #128

So. Divide and conquer. If this doesn't stop now we are in for a GOP President. Lint Head Feb 2016 #131

Wow: another Third Way democrat attacking Bernie Sanders? Betty Karlson Feb 2016 #137

Oh Barb... tex-wyo-dem Feb 2016 #139

Hillary being a progressive "every day" is pretty hyperbolic Bradical79 Feb 2016 #140

Just what I was going to say. He's been very honest about his actions, Nay Feb 2016 #203

FIZZLE! No, she's not. Good try, though. (N/T) Old Crow Feb 2016 #143

Wow. So two votes on one polarizing issue, and that makes Hillary a progressive every day? frylock Feb 2016 #149

The most fundamental part of progressive is “progress”. She effects progress. PeaceNikki Feb 2016 #159

What Barbara Boxer fails to understand is that him not siding with the democrats on every issue basselope Feb 2016 #160

There are many times where Sanders voted conservatively than progressive pandr32 Feb 2016 #165

Barbara Boxer has joined the trolls? Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2016 #172

And your mother wears combat boots hueymahl Feb 2016 #179

K&R! LOVE my Senator - the only one who stood with the CBC in 2004 to protest BlueCaliDem Feb 2016 #184

Moderate/Middle.....then Bernie started showing up and bkkyosemite Feb 2016 #186

F*ck you back. mmonk Feb 2016 #195

I stand with and agree with Senator Boxer Gothmog Feb 2016 #196

Typical third way shortsightedness dragonfly301 Feb 2016 #197

Petition to ban threads that start with the word BOOM Cheese Sandwich Feb 2016 #202

I don't care. Primary season is silly season. katsy Feb 2016 #204

She's a gem! NurseJackie Feb 2016 #206

Moreno's politics are far more attractive than Beltway Boxer's. mhatrw Feb 2016 #208

Great one liner, especially if written for Bob Hope! mhatrw Feb 2016 #207

How one person chooses to define the words "progressive" and "Democrat" doesn't matter. cui bono Feb 2016 #209

Well, Bernie is more old-school Dem and Clinton more Third Way "Dem" so... polichick Feb 2016 #212

IWR, TPP, Iran negotiations, Keystone, Single Payer, Wall St....yeah, she's a real progressive. EndElectoral Feb 2016 #219

Senator Boxer should be grateful Bernie is running as a Democrat. Vinca Feb 2016 #222

Women Stick Together SoCalMusicLover Feb 2016 #226

All congressional legislation is complicated. intheflow Feb 2016 #228

This message was self-deleted by its author stopbush Feb 2016 #229

"Boom" indeed Number23 Feb 2016 #230

Except the days she's voting for the IWR or saying "marriage is a sacred bond between Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #231

Suck it up Bernie you chose to leave the safety of vanilla independents. great white snark Feb 2016 #236

I don't get the Boom Dems2002 Feb 2016 #239

Boom means Riversedge thinks what Barbara Boxer says is a big deal. m-lekktor Feb 2016 #246

Seth Myers observed something similar. aikoaiko Feb 2016 #243

I hear some booms alright. n/t Aerows Feb 2016 #244