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In reply to the discussion: Factual talking points on the economy (UPDATED) [View all]progree
(10,901 posts)72. Bloomberg's points out Dems lead in job creation by wide margin over Repubs
Thanks Bill_USA for posting these links from Bloomberg over at http://www.democraticunderground.com/111622439 --
here's an article from Bloomberg that points out Dems lead in job creation by wide margin over Repubs
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-05-08/private-jobs-increase-more-with-democrats-in-white-house.html
Democrats hold the edge though they occupied the Oval Office for 23 years since Kennedys inauguration, compared with 28 for the Republicans. Through April, Democratic presidents accounted for an average of 150,000 additional private-sector paychecks per month over that period, more than double the 71,000 average for Republicans.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/data?pid=avimage&iid=isqi31tjaZFo
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-05-08/private-jobs-increase-more-with-democrats-in-white-house.html
Democrats hold the edge though they occupied the Oval Office for 23 years since Kennedys inauguration, compared with 28 for the Republicans. Through April, Democratic presidents accounted for an average of 150,000 additional private-sector paychecks per month over that period, more than double the 71,000 average for Republicans.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/data?pid=avimage&iid=isqi31tjaZFo
The below, taken from http://www.democraticunderground.com/111622439 EF.1. near the bottom is another confirming view showing that -- with the tiny exception (0.02% difference) of Nixon to Kennedy -- the worst Democrat has a better record than the best Republican (all the way back to Truman). It is ranked on a percentage job increase basis to get rid of the issue that the economies and labor forces of the earlier presidents were much smaller than that of the later presidents. So for example, Truman's wimpy looking 93,570 / month average job creation is actually the 3rd best of all post-FDRoosevelt presidents on a percentage increase basis. (The labor force at the beginning of the Truman admin was only 31% the size of GW Bush's, so 93,570 jobs/month went a long way back then)
Job Creation of record of post-WWII Presidents With Completed Terms, Average Annual % Increases :
(Sorted from best to worst by average annual percentage increase in jobs. Republicans in red, Democrats in blue. Notice that -- with the tiny exception (0.02% difference) of Nixon to Kennedy -- the worst Democrat has a better record than the best Republican)
[div style="display:inline; font-size:1.37em; font-family:monospace; white-space:pre;"][font color= ] Average Average [/font]
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[div style="display:inline; font-size:1.37em; font-family:monospace; white-space:pre;"][font color= ] Jobs start of Percentage[/font]
[div style="display:inline; font-size:1.37em; font-family:monospace; white-space:pre;"][font color= ] Created Term Increase [/font]
[div style="display:inline; font-size:1.37em; font-family:monospace; white-space:pre;"][font color= ] President Per Month Millions In Jobs [/font]
[div style="display:inline; font-size:1.37em; font-family:monospace; white-space:pre;"][font color= ] ========= ========= ======== ======= [/font]
[div style="display:inline; font-size:1.37em; font-family:monospace; white-space:pre;"][font color=blue] Johnson 196,500 57.3 4.12% [/font]
[div style="display:inline; font-size:1.37em; font-family:monospace; white-space:pre;"][font color=blue] Carter 215,396 80.7 3.20% [/font]
[div style="display:inline; font-size:1.37em; font-family:monospace; white-space:pre;"][font color=blue] Truman 93,570 41.4 2.71% [/font]
[div style="display:inline; font-size:1.37em; font-family:monospace; white-space:pre;"][font color=blue] Clinton 236,875 109.7 2.59% [/font]
[div style="display:inline; font-size:1.37em; font-family:monospace; white-space:pre;"][font color=red ] Nixon 137,030 69.4 2.37% [/font]
[div style="display:inline; font-size:1.37em; font-family:monospace; white-space:pre;"][font color=blue] Kennedy 105,059 53.7 2.35% [/font]
[div style="display:inline; font-size:1.37em; font-family:monospace; white-space:pre;"][font color=red ] Reagan 167,729 91.0 2.21% [/font]
[div style="display:inline; font-size:1.37em; font-family:monospace; white-space:pre;"][font color=red ] Ford 71,483 78.6 1.09% [/font]
[div style="display:inline; font-size:1.37em; font-family:monospace; white-space:pre;"][font color=red ] Eisenhower 36,854 50.1 0.88% [/font]
[div style="display:inline; font-size:1.37em; font-family:monospace; white-space:pre;"][font color=red ] G.H. Bush 54,021 107.1 0.61% [/font]
[div style="display:inline; font-size:1.37em; font-family:monospace; white-space:pre;"][font color=red ] G.W. Bush 11,406 132.5 0.10% [/font]
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Excellent post. People need a basic lesson on the unemployment rates, too, (U3 versus U6)
NYC_SKP
Aug 2012
#2
20 of the 22 states with the highest proportion of non-federal-income-tax-payers are Repub states
progree
Sep 2012
#67
Another lesson, about the myth that those who exhaust their unemployment insurance are not counted
progree
Aug 2012
#48
Obama has signed 21 tax cuts for the middle class & proposed $4 trillion in debt reduction
CabCurious
Aug 2012
#7
I've got a BA in Econ. and believe me the Republicans got nothing but their rabid base.
xtraxritical
Aug 2012
#12
In other words, there is still huge amounts of debt being added every year :(
CabCurious
Aug 2012
#11
Democratic presidents have created jobs at a faster rate than Republicans (2m/y vs 1m/y).
CabCurious
Aug 2012
#23
The Republicans would be lying about their own commitment to the stimulus and bailouts
CabCurious
Aug 2012
#27
Defense spending is apparently around 50% of our discretionary spending, 1/3 of total spending
CabCurious
Aug 2012
#32
Outstanding work. But the defense spending is about half of fed. discretionary spending, not total
progree
Aug 2012
#33
You'll find defense spending figures of 700Bish, 900Bish, and $1.2Tish because
CabCurious
Aug 2012
#37
Is it 2 Pinocchios or 3 to indicate defense spending is over half when at most its about 1/3?
progree
Aug 2012
#53
Like I said, I agree it's about 1/3 of total spending. The chart showing more than 50% is...
CabCurious
Aug 2012
#57
And so? I have investments in probably every sizable U.S. company with marketable shares through
progree
Aug 2012
#43
"And for the record, I consider the entire dialogue about fannie/freddie... to be a red herring."
progree
Aug 2012
#51
I was just wondering the significance of the fannie/freddie mention in #42. Thank you.
progree
Aug 2012
#54
Kicking, because this thread is awesome and should be bookmarked by everybody. (nt)
apnu
Sep 2012
#63
Graph of rising productivity and stagnant wages and household incomes. Plus growing inequality stats
progree
Sep 2012
#65
Inequality - a collection of graphics - Money Masters, Created by: ForensicAccounting.net
progree
Oct 2012
#74
Some more graphics. The food price inflation one is interesting (ouch). Glad I gave up food
progree
Sep 2012
#69
EF 0. Economy facts - tons of numbers to refer to in message board wars. With official sources
progree
Oct 2012
#73