2016 Postmortem

NRaleighLiberal

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16. agreed - and it is curious to me why Marshall doesn't seem to see this at all.

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Fri Feb 5, 2016, 12:51 AM

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always worth reading - Josh Marshall's take on things - his debate wrap from tonight [View all] NRaleighLiberal Feb 2016 OP

I think Sanders could hold his own against the Republicans. pacalo Feb 2016 #1

Did he explain SusanCalvin Feb 2016 #2

No - hence my shrug. I think he has tended to favor Hillary, but reading between his lines. NRaleighLiberal Feb 2016 #4

I will probably do that, but SusanCalvin Feb 2016 #7

She's electable in some climates, but not the present one. winter is coming Feb 2016 #12

agreed - and it is curious to me why Marshall doesn't seem to see this at all. NRaleighLiberal Feb 2016 #16

Seems like a lot of pundit thought is still constrained by conventional thinking. winter is coming Feb 2016 #21

A lot of us have been spinning our wheels and going nowhere for 35 years. Manifestor_of_Light Feb 2016 #82

the thing that I find most amazing is that people imagine that Bernie is vulnerable in the GE virtualobserver Feb 2016 #3

i've noticed Bernie going negative on Trump with regularity demwing Feb 2016 #6

None of the Republicans would be a match for him virtualobserver Feb 2016 #11

I've always been most alarmed by Cruz demwing Feb 2016 #25

I am alarmed by him too, but he is too creepy to be elected President virtualobserver Feb 2016 #27

Bernie does not back down. If he is attacked he sharpens his claws & goes for the jugular. jillan Feb 2016 #62

Interesting that he does not think Hillary will be cut to pieces. Because she will. Luminous Animal Feb 2016 #5

Hillary is most vulnerable to Trump virtualobserver Feb 2016 #15

Hillary and Trump are friends. senz Feb 2016 #23

Interesting that he imagines the Republicans will come up with something winter is coming Feb 2016 #18

Exactly. Luminous Animal Feb 2016 #19

Yep if there was something there Hillary would have found it. JRLeft Feb 2016 #24

She cut him with ... RobertEarl Feb 2016 #32

It's an interesting question. snot Feb 2016 #8

agree. well stated. NRaleighLiberal Feb 2016 #9

thx! :) snot Feb 2016 #20

BERNIE WANTS IT TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE while Hillary wants it to be first snowy owl Feb 2016 #34

Agree... KoKo Feb 2016 #95

This is so so good. Please consider making it an OP so its gets more snagglepuss Feb 2016 #40

gosh, thanks! snot Feb 2016 #44

I had exactly the same reaction about Sanders being cut to pieces DavidDvorkin Feb 2016 #10

Why doesn't anyone ever talk about how much the republicans loathe Hillary onecaliberal Feb 2016 #13

Go anywhere on line musiclawyer Feb 2016 #17

Bingo. SusanCalvin Feb 2016 #22

and I would add... kenn3d Feb 2016 #31

There will be a massive Republican voter turnout this year... MelSC Feb 2016 #56

Because of their hatred of slimeballs, there will also be a massive Independent voter turn-out. sorechasm Feb 2016 #84

Delusional MelSC Feb 2016 #85

Thanks for your well-reasoned response... Human101948 Feb 2016 #88

The person I was replying to MelSC Feb 2016 #90

Same reason no one talks of Bernie's liabilities FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #28

This is true though most younger black people aren't all that religious. JRLeft Feb 2016 #42

Plus at least 1/2 of young Latinos are quite religious... FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #45

Even younger Latinos aren't that religious either, it's the older generation. JRLeft Feb 2016 #49

I disagree on Latino youth.... FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #59

Not the ones I grew up with. Not the ones in my neighborhood or my job. JRLeft Feb 2016 #64

Well, go with that then. FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #65

It's generational, but Bernie will have to win over both groups including Asians. JRLeft Feb 2016 #67

Yep.... FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #70

He doesn't believe he can do it by itself, he wants public pressure. JRLeft Feb 2016 #92

Bernie gained the respect of Liberty University students senz Feb 2016 #71

Take your chances with that..... FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #73

Yes, I've seen that you're in the bag for Hillary. senz Feb 2016 #77

All the polling shows Bernie beating each possible GOP candidate... grasswire Feb 2016 #46

McCain was beating Obama at this point in the '08 game....6+ to 12+ points, FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #50

you haven't been watching much TV yet, eh? nt grasswire Feb 2016 #51

Whatever he is getting now is nothing.... FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #54

I used the Google and found much different results in early Feb 2008. rufus dog Feb 2016 #68

This was right before Iowa, in 2008.... FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #72

Take a look rufus dog Feb 2016 #76

I think you are wrong on the spirtuality issue. mikehiggins Feb 2016 #53

I'm not concerned about him being Jewish so much.... FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #55

There are millions of voting americans workinclasszero Feb 2016 #91

no Jarqui Feb 2016 #14

Interesting. I don't think that these media people and the politician have a clue as to how fed Autumn Feb 2016 #26

Sanders would fare better than HRC in the GE. He's a populist who will give voters a fair deal. He's amborin Feb 2016 #29

Calm, Cool, Collected and Smart snowy owl Feb 2016 #30

Bernie's perceived pacifist nature will cause voters in the GE to think oasis Feb 2016 #33

Yeah, except, remember, he's a defender of the 2nd Amendment �� snot Feb 2016 #38

Tell me what candidate running for president doesn't support the oasis Feb 2016 #43

Except it's not. Fawke Em Feb 2016 #39

I hear plenty talk about ISIS and international terrorism. Each oasis Feb 2016 #47

Conscientious objector of the Vietnam war? FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #57

It's important for our Commander-in-Chief to have the respect oasis Feb 2016 #83

Fuck the military fetish too many people have TransitJohn Feb 2016 #93

imagine Bernie trying to sell that. nt oasis Feb 2016 #94

It's true. TransitJohn Feb 2016 #98

I agree with Josh...sort of... GainesT1958 Feb 2016 #35

I agree with you Dem2 Feb 2016 #61

What attacks have there been....? FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #69

A tax, tax, spend, spend self declared socialist kennetha Feb 2016 #36

This... and much more. Just barely scratching the surface. There are, you know, many ... NurseJackie Feb 2016 #87

Bernie's strengths in the primaries would be redstateblues Feb 2016 #37

We need to revel in this moment of Bernie momentum, when will we ever see this again flamingdem Feb 2016 #41

I say he loses 60% of the Black vote and 70% of the Latino vote to Hillary, FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #48

I didn't tune into the issue of religion, how interesting that it could make or break him flamingdem Feb 2016 #58

Hey there... FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #60

He believes in God. He went into a rant about it last night. jillan Feb 2016 #63

Nope....I'm not confused.... FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #66

You obviously did not read what he said jillan Feb 2016 #74

Page not found..... FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #75

Right because Donald is sooo religious & the entire RW platform is about taking away healthcare, jillan Feb 2016 #96

You seem to know an awful lot about Bernie senz Feb 2016 #78

Bernie can still have his revolution.... FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #52

Marshall has been posting the same thing over and over cali Feb 2016 #79

Hillary is the candidate that would get cut to pieces in the general election. w4rma Feb 2016 #80

Very well said. senz Feb 2016 #81

This message was self-deleted by its author olddots Feb 2016 #86

To be very honest, I'm worried about the general with either candidate. Vinca Feb 2016 #89

This paragraph might explain Josh's thinking... KoKo Feb 2016 #97