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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Can we all agree that Hillary should release the transcripts of her Goldman speech? [View all]CincyDem
(7,298 posts)38. I've seen a lot of these speeches - there will be nothing of interest in the transcripts.
These speeches are typically keynotes at conferences for either high dollar investors and/or their advisors. For a number of years, I had a chance to attend some of these - NOT Goldman conferences but the equivalent with another well known name.
I got to hear:
Condi Rice: Putin is a thug. Russia is 100% dependent on oil prices and god help us if the price of oil collapses (said when oil was $110 a barrel vs $30 today).
Bob Gates: Here's how you think about defense policy in a world where the threats are changing. When asked some convoluted question by an audience member during the Q&A that included what seemed to be a lot of code words, his response...'Sir, the fact that you can even formulate that question tells me that you know I can not answer it in a crowded room so rather than try to dance around it, I'll just say I can not legally respond to that question". He was the most impressive of the group.
Barney Frank: the Dodd-Frank regs were designed to reconnect taking financial risk and generating financial reward - a connection that has been broken since Glass-Steagal was repealed. ( and by the way - if he had spent even 5 minutes preparing, he might have been good. Instead, at 9:30 in the morning he presented himself like a deshelved old drunk).
Mitt Romney: Running for president is no fun. Glad I did it. Sorry I lost...and the Republican's will rise again.
Jeb Bush: Look at all I did for education in Florida.
Michael Hayden: The biggest security threats in the world are the "ungoverned areas"...and the largest ungoverned area in the world is actually in northwestern Mexico. Be afraid.
James Caravelle: Amazing to hear him assess the 2012 election (this was in Summer 2012). Great speaker, good stories, learned a lot.
Mary Maitlin: Waste of time. Did a 45 minute Faux News rant with all the snide racist comments about BHO.
My point with this litany - these speeches are benign. My guess is that HRC said absolutely NOTHING to the Goldman crowd that she hasn't said to dozens and dozens of other groups. IF the transcripts are ever released I am sure most readers will fall asleep in the first 4-5 paragraphs. They're just not that interesting.
There's always this question floating around "but what will Goldman expect from Hillary for their $675k payment". The answer - absolutely nothing...they already got their payout. They headlined her at a conference that made them look important to their clients/advisors. She was window dressing. They got to put her name on the invite.
I'm not saying lobbying money isn't a problem but focus on Goldman's lobbying budget...not their conference/advertising budget.
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Can we all agree that Hillary should release the transcripts of her Goldman speech? [View all]
LittleBlue
Feb 2016
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Goldman will say that they payed for the speech so it was a work for hire and therefore
awake
Feb 2016
#8
Well, if she uses THAT excuse, that her speech is Goldman-Sachs proprietary info....
Peace Patriot
Feb 2016
#46
Well then I guess production of the speakers agreement would be necessary then
Purveyor
Feb 2016
#34
It IS Up To CORPORATE PRESS To Push The Release... Not Bernie! THIS Was A YES or NO Question!
CorporatistNation
Feb 2016
#23
I find it EXTREMELY hard to believe there were transcripts. And it is more than Goldman Sachs. n/t
Skwmom
Feb 2016
#5
Apparently, NBC news has confirmed that all her talks were transcribed.That implies audio recordings
hedda_foil
Feb 2016
#16
The fact that it wasn't is evidence our system is broken. Answer the question
LittleBlue
Feb 2016
#10
Maybe she said one thing behind closed doors at Goldman and another to the public.
pa28
Feb 2016
#11
Actually, her contracts required Goldman Sachs and others to pay for a transcriptor to
askew
Feb 2016
#21
Neither Hillary nor Podesta are stupid and aren't going to get trapped before they have the facts
Empowerer
Feb 2016
#31
I've seen a lot of these speeches - there will be nothing of interest in the transcripts.
CincyDem
Feb 2016
#38
Ari Rabin-Havt TOTALLY agreed with your assessment this morning! For those
bullwinkle428
Feb 2016
#77
She was up here speaking across Canada and getting paid mostly by the two big banks
polly7
Feb 2016
#79
And reveal her diabolical Illuminati world domination plot and secret Rosicrucian handshake?
betsuni
Feb 2016
#40
It would be a SERIOUS nail in the coffin of her campaign if those speeches go public.
Old Crow
Feb 2016
#45
In any case, it is the intellectual property of someone -- not the Internet. n/t
pnwmom
Feb 2016
#90
It's a fishing expedition in hopes of finding a "47% moment". (They're getting desperate.)
NurseJackie
Feb 2016
#75
So after reading all the replies to this question, the answer is "NO, we cannot agree"
Binkie The Clown
Feb 2016
#66
I'm wondering why they couldn't just rewrite the speech and release it as the transcript.
stillwaiting
Feb 2016
#74