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Truth-telling is truly a danger. cherokeeprogressive Feb 2016 #1
Eighty five percent to pay for Sanders agenda, my health care premiums are lower. Thinkingabout Feb 2016 #26
Yes, tell us how life is just.... daleanime Feb 2016 #31
What is this 85% you're talking about? I don't know what that figure refers to. (n/t) thesquanderer Feb 2016 #43
Eighty five percent paid in taxes to cover the cost of Sanders agenda. Thinkingabout Feb 2016 #47
So why use a figure you know is wrong? thesquanderer Feb 2016 #48
Yes, I wondered why Sanders used a figure which was wrong. Thinkingabout Feb 2016 #49
What figure, and when did he use it? (n/t) thesquanderer Feb 2016 #50
Here Thinkingabout Feb 2016 #52
I don't follow you. When did Sanders use a figure inconsistent with that document? (n/t) thesquanderer Feb 2016 #55
You're either buying McCaskill's laughable insinuations or thinking of Eisenhower, or both. merrily Feb 2016 #58
You ought to be embarrassed about that claim. To the extent that you had any credibility, Ed Suspicious Feb 2016 #76
Do you think Sanders is embarrased about his figures? Credibility about his figures? Thinkingabout Feb 2016 #78
Sanders' figures are fine, and credible. Your figure is apparently fictional. (n/t) thesquanderer Feb 2016 #80
So is Sanders figures, with Sanders figures the debt will increase. Thinkingabout Feb 2016 #82
taxfoundation.org is a right-leaning group thesquanderer Feb 2016 #83
FEAR - The Clinton people are Selling FEAR every chance they get Ferd Berfel Feb 2016 #39
more like telling hard truths ericson00 Feb 2016 #88
"THe Power of Nightmares" Selling Fear through delusion Ferd Berfel Feb 2016 #89
fear, feaR, feAR, fEAR, FEAR! Kip Humphrey Feb 2016 #2
A lot of people are AFRAID of higher taxes. MADem Feb 2016 #22
Wow. Fearing taxes and welfare queens? I've only ever heard such comments from republicons. Kip Humphrey Feb 2016 #28
Maybe you should--since you apparently know so much about the place. MADem Feb 2016 #34
I will gladly pay an increase in taxes that is less than my health care costs Goblinmonger Feb 2016 #29
Eighty five percent is much higher than my health insurance. Thinkingabout Feb 2016 #32
But it won't be ... MADem Feb 2016 #33
Mondale was going to lose anyway Art_from_Ark Feb 2016 #3
but if Mondale made the party look worse and get blown out, ericson00 Feb 2016 #5
So would Gary Hart keeping it in his pants mythology Feb 2016 #8
Monkey Business was in 1988 ericson00 Feb 2016 #10
There was dissent against Reagan as evidenced by the 1986 Senate elections Art_from_Ark Feb 2016 #11
30 plus years ago. artislife Feb 2016 #45
LOL! Spin! Carter and Mondale, two centrists from a failed administration, lost to Reagan. merrily Feb 2016 #54
+1 Thank you. merrily Feb 2016 #53
GD-P K&R I think. stonecutter357 Feb 2016 #4
Look at her favorability with independents in these polls.. Armymedic88 Feb 2016 #6
Yawn mindem Feb 2016 #7
NO no no !!!! Sanders has revolution that is what makes him different than Mondale !!! uponit7771 Feb 2016 #9
Did you completely fucking ignore the part where he said he'd eliminate health ins. premiums??? yodermon Feb 2016 #12
the easy GOP ads don't care about such things ericson00 Feb 2016 #14
right and the GOP ads will just treat Hillary with the respect she deserves, got it n/t yodermon Feb 2016 #15
elections are won/lost on policy attacks ericson00 Feb 2016 #16
Yeah, they'll cover all that in the GOP oppo ad...NOT. MADem Feb 2016 #23
If he can't eliminate them, the taxes don't go up. Goblinmonger Feb 2016 #30
Please don't play stupid. All politicians talk about their respective plans that way. yodermon Feb 2016 #35
Campaigning on obvious impossibilities is a weakness. MADem Feb 2016 #42
Do you asuhornets Feb 2016 #57
Anybody got a copy of the famous No New Taxes promise from George the First? mikehiggins Feb 2016 #13
*yawn* frylock Feb 2016 #17
Except for the actual states, that map looks like the Clinton/Sanders map - Sanders will win... George II Feb 2016 #18
Who needs republican attacks when #teamHillary will do it for them. Cheese Sandwich Feb 2016 #19
It's not a "Republican attack" when you can't tell us how Bernie will give you health care, all by MADem Feb 2016 #24
As I said in another thread, the only choices are to Try or to Give Up. thesquanderer Feb 2016 #46
You want to gloss over Old Codger Feb 2016 #20
"We will raise taxes, yes, we will!" MADem Feb 2016 #21
Kick treestar Feb 2016 #25
If the US doesn't want to fix its problems than Death is assured? JPnoodleman Feb 2016 #27
Raising taxes worked great for President Mondale Gothmog Feb 2016 #36
False equivalency. Mondale never promised to lower costs. And raising taxes did work for Obama. merrily Feb 2016 #60
Denial is not just a river in Africa Gothmog Feb 2016 #62
Nope. Glad you got that. It isn't only facile, false centrist memes about past elections, either. merrily Feb 2016 #64
Why single payer died in Vermont Gothmog Feb 2016 #67
Again, a different point entirely than the one you tried to make in Reply 36. You're flailing. merrily Feb 2016 #70
Read the article-the Vermont plan failed due to the needed massive tax increases Gothmog Feb 2016 #74
Krugman- Sanders health plan looks a little bit like a standard Republican tax-cut plan Gothmog Feb 2016 #68
That is a different point entirely from the one you tried to make in Reply 36. merrily Feb 2016 #69
No, I was responding to your claim of supposed cost savings Gothmog Feb 2016 #72
I don't want to be part of any party not willing to discuss taxes. liberal_at_heart Feb 2016 #37
Exactly!! you can add a bunch of other free ad material given to the GOP media machine by Sanders Persondem Feb 2016 #38
bump nt Persondem Feb 2016 #65
I met Mondale once. cyberswede Feb 2016 #40
Oh no, if we're honest we might hand the oligarchy back to the republicans! whatchamacallit Feb 2016 #41
We're not running against a popular incumbent, among other things. thesquanderer Feb 2016 #44
Raise your taxes a little, lower your costs a lot. Obama did it. It's not rocket science. merrily Feb 2016 #51
Mondale lost because he had the charisma of month-old lutefisk Ken Burch Feb 2016 #56
I did a lot of research on this because I was so tired of the center right memes. merrily Feb 2016 #61
Low energy guy? Octafish Feb 2016 #59
Reagan is dead. So is Michael Jackson. Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #63
Disagreeing with disasterous GOP talking points/policy is 'dangerous'? AgingAmerican Feb 2016 #66
He was running against Reagan gyroscope Feb 2016 #71
So you ignore polling data from today that shows Sanders beating KingCharlemagne Feb 2016 #73
Yes they do ignore any poll that doesn't favour their Chosen One. 99Forever Feb 2016 #75
Careful! Avoid the danger. HassleCat Feb 2016 #77
there is a huge difference between ericson00 Feb 2016 #84
@OP - EXACTLY! That's exactly what I was thinking. n/t OhZone Feb 2016 #79
This meme needs to spread all over the internet ericson00 Feb 2016 #85
Thankfully, Reagan Democrats are mostly dead. GeorgeGist Feb 2016 #81
I know! That was a fatal mistake! NurseJackie Feb 2016 #86
I hope New Hampshirites don't enable such a mistake again! ericson00 Feb 2016 #87
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