2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: A slightly more nuanced take on whether Hillary Clinton is "establishment" [View all]George II
(67,782 posts)....TWENTY NINE YEARS AGO, and left 23 years ago! How much longer is that tired routine going to be thrown out as a "criticism"? I could drag out some things that Sanders did 20, 30, or 40 years ago, but we all know it would be hidden in a NY minute.
Do you know what most board members of large corporations actually do? She didn't report to work at Walmart Headquarters every morning and leave at 5 PM, five days a week. She probably went to two, maybe four board meetings a year.
Also, I think you're exaggerating (or obfuscating) when you say she is "arguing now that ideals are impossible, give them up". That's bunk.
She has very similar ideals as those of Sanders. But she's pragmatic, she realizes that some take time, some may be impossible to achieve at this time. People seem to forget that if the ACA wasn't written the way it was, it would never have been passed. The same thing for other "ideals" and issues.
So, do you think a President should cling to ideals and not accomplish anything?
Governing involves compromising and accomplishing things in steps, it won't all happen overnight. If he sticks to his ideals, as President he probably would wind up as the most ineffective president of my lifetime.