2016 Postmortem

SMC22307

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107. Yep. I'd leave out Colin Powell though, since many still think highly of him.

Sat Feb 6, 2016, 01:21 AM

Feb 2016

I'd make it one of those quiet ads that make you look up at the TV. Or one with outstanding music that really grabs your attention. I'd show imagery of all the "experts" and the disastrous effects of their foreign policy "knowledge." It would have to be done in such a way that viewers wouldn't feel like they were being beaten over the head with the message, or open Sanders to accusations of being "unpatriotic." Throw in digs at Wall Street and the war profiteers. It would end by praising Sanders and his overall good JUDGMENT, primarily on Iraq, and his unwavering support for veterans.

Yeah, someone in the biz could really create a brilliant ad.

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Henry Kissinger knows more about foreign policy than Bernie Sanders [View all] last1standing Feb 2016 OP

Well said! liberal_at_heart Feb 2016 #1

Hit the nail on the head. onecaliberal Feb 2016 #2

KnR!nt m-lekktor Feb 2016 #3

Knowing a lot isn't necessarily that great, The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2016 #4

This message was self-deleted by its author RoccoR5955 Feb 2016 #5

My mother always said I didn't know my "S" from my elbow. last1standing Feb 2016 #9

Yes. And that goes along with "Hillary can get stuff done!" djean111 Feb 2016 #6

Yes, Getting Things Done Like Wars in the Middle East McKim Feb 2016 #67

Huge +1! Enthusiast Feb 2016 #117

I told you! immoderate Feb 2016 #7

Very true! JDPriestly Feb 2016 #36

.^that 840high Feb 2016 #87

Brilliant! tecelote Feb 2016 #8

"We came, we saw, he died!" Har Har Har!!!! last1standing Feb 2016 #10

And Republicans applauding. tecelote Feb 2016 #12

That's the scary part. The repubs would love Hillary's foreign policy choices. last1standing Feb 2016 #13

Obama promised to end our endless wars. tecelote Feb 2016 #14

I can't let him completely off the hook but I do believe he wanted to end them. last1standing Feb 2016 #68

Huh. I hadn't considered that. Interesting point. Bubzer Feb 2016 #75

K&R amborin Feb 2016 #11

A bunch of know-it-all geniuses got us into Vietnam too. Read Halberstam's KingCharlemagne Feb 2016 #15

Huge +1! Enthusiast Feb 2016 #118

Spot on, last1standing. beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #16

Excellent post! TIME TO PANIC Feb 2016 #17

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #18

Except Bush and Cheney, no one's done more to sully America's reputation abroad that Henry Kissinger forest444 Feb 2016 #19

I'll see you Henry, Dick, and Derp, and raise you Allen and John RufusTFirefly Feb 2016 #39

If you haven't already done so, chervilant Feb 2016 #59

Thanks. I wasn't familiar with that book. RufusTFirefly Feb 2016 #64

Hitler's bankers. You win. forest444 Feb 2016 #96

Thank you. Very interesting. JDPriestly Feb 2016 #95

Sure, JD. forest444 Feb 2016 #105

Wow! H2O Man Feb 2016 #20

I can't recommend the truth of your statements enough. eom Cleita Feb 2016 #21

Nailed it! SammyWinstonJack Feb 2016 #22

Thank you for this post. democrank Feb 2016 #23

Hawk and the documentation supports that label. Jefferson23 Feb 2016 #24

This should be an ad. frylock Feb 2016 #25

Yep. I'd leave out Colin Powell though, since many still think highly of him. SMC22307 Feb 2016 #107

Respectfully disagree... in some ways Colin Powell was the worst The Green Manalishi Feb 2016 #133

We're not in disagreement re: Powell. SMC22307 Feb 2016 #135

ah... I get it The Green Manalishi Feb 2016 #139

Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2016 #26

Hear, Hear !!! WillyT Feb 2016 #27

And don't forget HRC's experience in Honduras EndElectoral Feb 2016 #28

Too bad Bernie is too gracious to bring all this up.. pangaia Feb 2016 #35

He needs to bring this up. Perception is his foreign policy is weak. HRC's is a disaster. EndElectoral Feb 2016 #38

I agree. pangaia Feb 2016 #45

They've kept the United States safe from single payer. Enthusiast Feb 2016 #120

Well, that sure is ONE way to put it. :>))) pangaia Feb 2016 #140

But, but NJCher Feb 2016 #124

Also agree, 100%. nt. polly7 Feb 2016 #144

Exactly! All these shouts of "experience" mean nothing when she never learns from her mistakes. last1standing Feb 2016 #40

Yes - TY & TY to others upthread too & last1standing bread_and_roses Feb 2016 #86

Zelaya shadowmayor Feb 2016 #89

Considering our recent history with Central and South American countries Oilwellian Feb 2016 #94

This comment alone should be an OP. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #127

She has killed more women & children than she has "helped". bvar22 Feb 2016 #148

+1 plus her vote in support of cluster bombs Arazi Feb 2016 #155

yup + a billion Cheese Sandwich Feb 2016 #29

Wisdom and judgement.. pangaia Feb 2016 #30

Woot! Woot! Bernie and his camp need to crush this "she's the expert" meme WhaTHellsgoingonhere Feb 2016 #31

Excellent rebuttal ! FailureToCommunicate Feb 2016 #32

I cringed when I heard her mention him hibbing Feb 2016 #33

I believe Henry is the Chairman of the Governors of that venerable Joe Chi Minh Feb 2016 #34

Good Post Mbrow Feb 2016 #37

What a completely dishonest OP Gman Feb 2016 #41

You've made a nasty claim but have made no argument. Is that you Hillary? last1standing Feb 2016 #44

Like Hillary supporters do on retrowire Feb 2016 #63

Plus expecting the voters treestar Feb 2016 #83

You keep posting Hillarys instead of making true statements. last1standing Feb 2016 #90

What? treestar Feb 2016 #132

Again, you aren't responding to anything that has been posted. last1standing Feb 2016 #137

Hey hey LBJ, how many people did you kill today? Arazi Feb 2016 #154

There is nothing dishonest in the OP. If you disagree please point it out. rhett o rick Feb 2016 #85

Brilliant analysis, NOT, you sound fucking desperate! Nt Logical Feb 2016 #110

The OP is a marvel of honesty and relevancy. The OP should receive an award. Enthusiast Feb 2016 #121

Yes! bbmykel Feb 2016 #42

Well said. moondust Feb 2016 #43

In short Foreign Policy = Who do we bomb next? d_legendary1 Feb 2016 #46

although Libya have to disagree on that one PatrynXX Feb 2016 #47

All one big club. pangaia Feb 2016 #48

Kissinger is a war criminal and should have been in the Hague years ago Ferd Berfel Feb 2016 #49

Yeah I got to give this the 100th recommendation Mira Feb 2016 #50

And the 50th post in the thread! last1standing Feb 2016 #51

I already knew she was keeping score. She considers Gaddafi to be her personal trophy.... Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2016 #52

Apples and Oranges treestar Feb 2016 #53

That's not even close to what I wrote. Maybe you need to try again. last1standing Feb 2016 #54

You listed people who know a lot about foreign policy and then mentioned treestar Feb 2016 #82

Nope. Second strike. Try again. last1standing Feb 2016 #84

You are not making any sense. Nt Logical Feb 2016 #111

It's called deflection. rynestonecowboy Feb 2016 #136

It's called desperation wrapped up in a strawman. last1standing Feb 2016 #141

Where are the Hillary supporters? retrowire Feb 2016 #55

There have been two so far. last1standing Feb 2016 #57

Update: 4 Hillary supporters but not one willing to take the OP head on. last1standing Feb 2016 #97

Bravo! dae Feb 2016 #56

One may "know" and lack "judgment," but how do you have good judgment without "knowing?" lexington filly Feb 2016 #58

He had the knowledge and good judgment to vote against killing innocent Iraqis. Did NoHope Hillary? last1standing Feb 2016 #62

Bernie does not have the foreign affairs creds that Hill has, but he has the judgment to protect The Wielding Truth Feb 2016 #74

When you go to the doctor, you do so because you have a problem Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #128

In other words..... wolfie001 Feb 2016 #60

Huge K&R! whatchamacallit Feb 2016 #61

..... madfloridian Feb 2016 #65

K and R SHRED Feb 2016 #66

Bernie trashes neocon Ashton ("Russia is The Enemy") Carter nikto Feb 2016 #69

Our foreign policy sulphurdunn Feb 2016 #70

K & R!!! Thespian2 Feb 2016 #71

Henry Kissinger is a war criminal greiner3 Feb 2016 #72

It isn't necessarily how much knowledge you have but what you do with that knowledge azurnoir Feb 2016 #73

Madeline Albright knows more than Bernie Sanders dlwickham Feb 2016 #76

When Madeline Albight throws her hat in the ring I'll consider her judgment. last1standing Feb 2016 #78

Madeleine Albright - The deaths of 500,000 Iraqi children was worth it frylock Feb 2016 #102

You mean, Madeleine "500,000 dead Iraqi kids was worth it" Albright? Art_from_Ark Feb 2016 #104

Lol, do more research. Nt Logical Feb 2016 #112

Madeline Albright knows more than Hillary. Enthusiast Feb 2016 #122

K&R! Duval Feb 2016 #77

This has been my opinion of "experience" in foreign policy... dchill Feb 2016 #79

You're too kind. They are all war criminals. ozone_man Feb 2016 #80

At that level, you're not a criminal, you're a statesman/stateswoman. last1standing Feb 2016 #81

+1000 grntuscarora Feb 2016 #88

Henry friggin' Kissinger shadowmayor Feb 2016 #91

K&R Paka Feb 2016 #92

SHOUT IT OUT!!! rwsanders Feb 2016 #93

K&R Iggy Knorr Feb 2016 #98

Bernie 1, Dr. Strangelove 0. n/t Admiral Loinpresser Feb 2016 #99

K&R azmom Feb 2016 #100

BIG HUGE KICK!~ John Poet Feb 2016 #101

My first thought when I read the thread title was: "Yesh, and what did he do with AllyCat Feb 2016 #103

You said it. avaistheone1 Feb 2016 #106

K&R!!!!!! burrowowl Feb 2016 #108

Yuppers! SoapBox Feb 2016 #109

Without knowledge one cannot exercise judgment BainsBane Feb 2016 #113

sucks to only have two possible explanations...for about anything... islandmkl Feb 2016 #129

Another NoHope Hillary fan already tried this strawman. I'm not biting. last1standing Feb 2016 #138

Wow supporting Kissinger now are we? 2pooped2pop Feb 2016 #114

Hillary knew a lot more about negotiating the TPP with member countries as SOS... cascadiance Feb 2016 #115

Kicked and gladly casting the 274th recommendation. Enthusiast Feb 2016 #116

Bernie Sanders silenttigersong Feb 2016 #119

Wisdom allows judgement that supports action. postulater Feb 2016 #123

From Charles Pierce's Feb. 5 entries in saltpoint Feb 2016 #125

Boom, talking point destroyed. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #126

Exactly. n/t 99Forever Feb 2016 #130

Thank you noretreatnosurrender Feb 2016 #131

Experience doesn't replace judgment. Go Bernie! Gregorian Feb 2016 #134

If Sanders said this in a debate left lowrider Feb 2016 #142

Thanks, I have noticed that not a single NoHope Hillary fan has been able to rebut the OP. last1standing Feb 2016 #143

Well said, indeed. dixiegrrrrl Feb 2016 #145

If she's nominated she is still better than any of the GOP candidates LynneSin Feb 2016 #146

But she is still much worse than the other Democratic candidate. last1standing Feb 2016 #147

Kudos creatives4innovation Feb 2016 #149

You're very welcome. last1standing Feb 2016 #150

Konowing more doesn't mean they'll make the correct choices... Mike Nelson Feb 2016 #151

I don't have a crystal ball, but I very much doubt it. last1standing Feb 2016 #152

This is Clintons world view and it is horrific.n/t Jefferson23 Feb 2016 #153