2016 Postmortem

Matariki

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79. What is she planning on doing that a Republican Congress won't block?

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Sat Feb 6, 2016, 01:24 AM

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Mr. Political Revolution MEET Mr. Gerrymandering [View all] FrenchieCat Feb 2016 OP

Oh brother. beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #1

Great story! Tells us the one about how Hillary gets elected in the GE with her huge unfavorables. AtomicKitten Feb 2016 #2

Ok.... FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #7

A big chunk of Bernie's support is from people who have never voted before AtomicKitten Feb 2016 #17

Bernie needs to own up to these folks, FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #24

So what you are saying is that only republicans rainy Feb 2016 #38

What I'm saying is that not only is Bernie FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #129

We know it won't be easy, FrenchieCat. We don't believe it is impossible. mikehiggins Feb 2016 #109

Are you saying that h supporters need no such warning artislife Feb 2016 #115

kick Dawson Leery Feb 2016 #3

OK, this keeps coming up... TCJ70 Feb 2016 #4

"That is honest" ? FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #30

Why do you keep insisting he's being vague? Kentonio Feb 2016 #122

It's certainly not vague... TCJ70 Feb 2016 #125

You were much nicer when you supported Gen. Clark. Fawke Em Feb 2016 #5

Sorry you feel compelled to make it personal.... FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #8

Oh yes, better to just sell out and give up like Hillary. Live and Learn Feb 2016 #6

Yep MissDeeds Feb 2016 #26

Make sure voters are voting with their eyes open.... FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #32

I like that. Should be her campaign slogan. nt Live and Learn Feb 2016 #43

Hillary's favorability is negative 17 (at best). She would not get reelected. Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #9

At least the so called dishonest Hillary Clinton is not overpromising.... FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #12

Yes she is. Look at her answer about the Death Penalty. Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #15

But you are ok with Sanders doing it on every issue..... FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #37

He is only - ONLY promising that if people get engaged we can make a change. Are you so fucking Ed Suspicious Feb 2016 #101

NO WE CAN'T FlatBaroque Feb 2016 #10

Nothing is too hard... FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #27

Why do you think Clinton will be able to deal with a Republican congress any better than Sanders? Matariki Feb 2016 #11

Because she isn't saying that she gonna change the world if she's elected President..... FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #20

But neither is he, that's just your hyperbolic characterization and it's not grounded in the facts. Bluenorthwest Feb 2016 #31

I disagree with you take on what he says..... FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #40

It's not my take on what he says, you are not quoting him you are characerterizing what he said. Bluenorthwest Feb 2016 #48

Frenchie is correct. Beacool Feb 2016 #96

Right. And that is the only fucking prescription for change. Now that that is established, you show Ed Suspicious Feb 2016 #102

What is she planning on doing that a Republican Congress won't block? Matariki Feb 2016 #79

She'll be wildly successful. She'll promise nothing. She'll achieve nothing. Success! Ed Suspicious Feb 2016 #103

Sanders has referred to going back to a 50 state strategy Matariki Feb 2016 #81

That is exactly the message in the OP madokie Feb 2016 #116

Kick and Rec, FrenchieCat Hekate Feb 2016 #13

Democrats can't win so why bother, huh? Great strategy you've got there. last1standing Feb 2016 #14

No really - Matariki Feb 2016 #16

Don't y'all call her a Republican FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #42

Maybe you can explain the difference, then Art_from_Ark Feb 2016 #89

That lists BERNS. I almost feel sorry for Clinton. eom Betty Karlson Feb 2016 #120

Even in Gerrymandered districts Democratic victories are quite possible basselope Feb 2016 #18

2010 is why the districts are NOW gerrymandered.... FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #21

So.. according to you Gerrymandering caused 10 million less people to vote for Obama in 2012? basselope Feb 2016 #57

So, I guess this means it would be better to have a Republican John Poet Feb 2016 #19

No it doesn't mean that.... FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #22

Support your assertion that he's promising the world. He's speaking in very clear and honest terms Bluenorthwest Feb 2016 #41

Thank you FrenchieCat. sheshe2 Feb 2016 #23

Yep. Bernie is basically a throwback to before there was ACA, the recovery, end of Iraq war, etc. ucrdem Feb 2016 #25

I dare you to document your smear. Admiral Loinpresser Feb 2016 #29

Where to begin. Well, this makes the point as clearly as anyone could wish for: ucrdem Feb 2016 #36

Nonresponsive. Admiral Loinpresser Feb 2016 #39

Fine, we'll say you weren't aware of it, but his entire anti-TPP campaign was one big dog-whistle. ucrdem Feb 2016 #46

The TPP is really effed up. Admiral Loinpresser Feb 2016 #49

The h people love the TPP and they hate single payer. artislife Feb 2016 #117

Opposing the TPP is a racist dog whistle??? beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #55

Accusing Barack Obama of cowardice and deceit is dog whistling, yes. Read what I posted. nt ucrdem Feb 2016 #56

No it's not, Jesus Christ. He's criticizing Obama's handling of the TPP. beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #58

It is what it is and it goes far beyond criticism. ucrdem Feb 2016 #59

How does it go "far beyond criticism"? Where's the racist dog whistle? beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #60

"should have the courage" and "keeping the content ... a secret" = dog whistles. ucrdem Feb 2016 #61

What other kind of dog whistle is there? What do you think "dog whistle" means? beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #63

Read what you posted. Your answers are all there. nt ucrdem Feb 2016 #64

No, they're not. You made a claim and you need to back it up because there's nothing there. beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #65

Calling the President cowardly and deceptive goes far beyond policy criticism. ucrdem Feb 2016 #66

What is it CODE for??? Your repeating it over and over doesn't prove anything. beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #67

I didn't call it code. Now I've answered your question several times already so please ucrdem Feb 2016 #69

Dog whistle = coded language, you said it was a dog whistle, what is is CODE for? beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #70

It's grossly inappropriate but the target audience likes what it hears and doesn't find ucrdem Feb 2016 #71

No that's NOT how a dog whistle works. A third definition: beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #72

The target audience heard a lie wrapped in an insult and didn't notice anything wrong. nt ucrdem Feb 2016 #73

That's not a dog whistle. Educate yourself, these are dog whistles: beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #75

Those are dog whistles that you noticed. nt ucrdem Feb 2016 #76

What does that even mean? beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #78

I don't think you understand what dog whistle means. nt artislife Feb 2016 #118

If you had one shred of integrity you would delete this post Iggy Knorr Feb 2016 #68

Put up or shut up. Ed Suspicious Feb 2016 #104

That is a baldfaced lie. Odin2005 Feb 2016 #100

Oh no, let's give up all efforts, perhaps sacrifice all our values & principles! That's the ticket. highprincipleswork Feb 2016 #28

There is a very big difference FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #35

Obama 'any bill I sign must contain a strong public option'. Also all that stuff about how mandates Bluenorthwest Feb 2016 #50

I never heard Bernie once promise that any of this will get passed, did you? highprincipleswork Feb 2016 #133

Presidents Clinton and Obama have already let us down Dems to Win Feb 2016 #33

Obama and Clinton bear some responsibility but I don't see that as all their fault Jarqui Feb 2016 #47

Obama installed DWS as chair of the DNC Dems to Win Feb 2016 #85

Whew, good thing this wasn't going on 8 years ago or President Obama would have achieved nothing CBGLuthier Feb 2016 #34

Obama had a controlling dem congress for 59 days, Sanders will have the exact opposite and the uponit7771 Feb 2016 #84

At least Bernie would use the bully pulpit. nt SusanCalvin Feb 2016 #44

The bully pit is vastly overrated redstateblues Feb 2016 #62

I'm talking about using it when one is President. nt SusanCalvin Feb 2016 #126

Hopeless pessimism ... Trajan Feb 2016 #45

I hope they keep employing that pessimism. Admiral Loinpresser Feb 2016 #51

The opposite is still not a practicle plan uponit7771 Feb 2016 #82

Great argument for more of the same. mhatrw Feb 2016 #52

Nothing will get done and no concessions are made... AOR Feb 2016 #53

That crazy old man will serve 2 terms- the first with modest coattails, the second with silvershadow Feb 2016 #54

No it wont, another indicactor that Sanders is selling used cars is few if any of his camp understan uponit7771 Feb 2016 #83

I've been thinking about this recently as well Dem2 Feb 2016 #74

What do you fear? californiabernin Feb 2016 #93

Democrat's past attempts at electing a more liberal/progressive have been fraught with failure Dem2 Feb 2016 #95

I hear what you are saying, I really do. californiabernin Feb 2016 #97

The nominee will not be Trump FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #113

Yes, I read that yesterday. californiabernin Feb 2016 #131

You are welcome.... FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #132

I hope your arguments are correct Dem2 Feb 2016 #128

...I'm still voting Bernie....? lol nt retrowire Feb 2016 #77

I'm with this guy. Ed Suspicious Feb 2016 #105

Sanders things trillions of people outside of Mitch's window will persuade him uponit7771 Feb 2016 #80

Gerrymandering is a real problem. californiabernin Feb 2016 #86

This about sums it up. Beacool Feb 2016 #87

He's not being misleading at all. californiabernin Feb 2016 #88

Sander's is giving people a choice. Glamrock Feb 2016 #90

Political november3rd Feb 2016 #91

This shit is getting surreal. AzDar Feb 2016 #92

Agreed. n/t californiabernin Feb 2016 #94

And both of you meet ms. Defeatism AgingAmerican Feb 2016 #98

lol Matariki Feb 2016 #106

This is some pathetic nonsense. Odin2005 Feb 2016 #99

Well written analysis, Frenchie...and terrifying. But it's what I have been saying, crying out BlueCaliDem Feb 2016 #107

Hillary Clinton fits that bill? Why, exactly? mikehiggins Feb 2016 #111

$18 million > $0. That's why. BlueCaliDem Feb 2016 #114

Meet the voice of Despair in America, 7 years into the Obama Administration Dems to Win Feb 2016 #108

Thanks for that link. It's a letter straight fromn the heart. eom Betty Karlson Feb 2016 #121

K&R betsuni Feb 2016 #110

He won't let us down nearly as much as this OP has. nt artislife Feb 2016 #112

"The status quo is here to stay, so vote for the status quo lady" - is that the new meme? Betty Karlson Feb 2016 #119

Thank you, Frenchie. Cha Feb 2016 #123

Very good post. Thank you, FrenchieCat. Hortensis Feb 2016 #134

If that is the case then no Democratic President will be able to deliver on anything. bklyncowgirl Feb 2016 #124

The difference is in what each promises.... FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #130

Where is this revolution? Gothmog Feb 2016 #127