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2016 Postmortem

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restorefreedom

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Sat Feb 6, 2016, 04:38 PM Feb 2016

This is how a political party dies:Trump, Sanders, and the collapse of our failed party elites [View all]

This is how a political party dies: Donald Trump, Bernie Sanders — and the collapse of our failed political elites
PAUL ROSENBERG

The Iowa caucus results may have brought a brief reprise from full-scale panic mode among political elites, but there’s no denying that the terrain we’re on now looks nothing like what anyone expected a year ago.
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It’s not just the babbling punditocracy that’s been caught with its pants down this election cycle. As Nick Gass noted at Politico recently, Trump’s resilience has confused and confounded political scientists as well—in particular by challenging the thesis of the “seminal 2008 book ‘The Party Decides,'” as Gass calls it. The book’s thesis is fairly straightforward—that for the last several decades, at least, it’s party insiders, not voters, who determine parties’ presidential nominees. By those lights 2016 was always going to be a Bush-Clinton battle of the political dynasties, so it’s not just Trump, but Sanders as well who’s threatening those certainties.

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Thus, Obama’s attempt to deal with the accumulated backlog of unresolved issues, problems, tensions and unmet expectations in a bipartisan manner, within the imaginative framework of the dealigned era was successfully mis-portrayed as a radical departure, when, in reality, only a radical departure could possibly have dealt with all that accumulated backlog. (A radical departure, I should add, which would first and foremost consist of restoring how our politics has usually functioned.) This is precisely the argument that Bernie Sanders is advancing today.

If neither party is prepared for such a radical departure, then one or both of them very well may die, because the American people demand it, even as the established frameworks of American politics fail to deliver for them—both the frameworks of intra-party organization, which evolve over time, and the framework of periodic inter-party/transparty reorganization, which used to occur via realigning elections.

The unexpected storylines of the 2016 election cycle so far are but superficial expressions of far more fundamental untold stories deep within the bowels of our collective public life. Even if the GOP thwarts Donald Trump, and Hillary Clinton’s almost unanimous support by the Democratic establishment keeps Sanders at bay, the profound elite failures of the post-1968 era cannot be wished away, including the chimera of elite bipartisan solutions. Sooner or later, something’s got to give. If neither party is equipped to respond to what the people demand, it would be foolish not to expect a return to the more chaotic politics of the pre-1860 era.

http://www.salon.com/2016/02/06/this_is_how_a_political_party_dies_donald_trump_bernie_sanders_and_the_collapse_of_our_failed_political_elites/

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Bottom line, millions and millions of people are fed up with being treated as disgruntled employees RKP5637 Feb 2016 #1
Then mix in TPP, To Big to Prosecute, and Impeachment is off the table. yourout Feb 2016 #2
Majority of politicians ARE the 1% regardless of party affiliations. Lodestar Feb 2016 #3
He almost called chervilant Feb 2016 #26
It really is. It's been the SOS for several decades now. FINALLY, Americans are starting to RKP5637 Feb 2016 #7
Don't forget the Pharma/Health industry TTUBatfan2008 Feb 2016 #39
What I find so pathetic in the US is the level of ignorance by so many. Many just can't seem to RKP5637 Feb 2016 #40
K&R liberal_at_heart Feb 2016 #4
Wuerker nails it again! CrispyQ Feb 2016 #5
that pretty much says it all. nt restorefreedom Feb 2016 #6
And leadership from both parties are stunned & scrambling. -nt CrispyQ Feb 2016 #8
i dont think jeb! will ever recover from the shock. nt restorefreedom Feb 2016 #10
He's deader than King Tut at this point. hifiguy Feb 2016 #14
actually i think king tut's got more zip lol. nt restorefreedom Feb 2016 #17
It needs a major shakeup. We've been in a rut with the SOS several decades now. Hey Jeb, RKP5637 Feb 2016 #11
Outstanding !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! n/t RKP5637 Feb 2016 #9
Hillarians love to hate this toon. frylock Feb 2016 #16
There are a lot of feces rapidly approaching the impeller hifiguy Feb 2016 #12
and they don't see it. more's the amazement. nt restorefreedom Feb 2016 #13
They know it, deep down, hifiguy Feb 2016 #15
my biggest fear is election theft restorefreedom Feb 2016 #18
If they do, the Democratic Party is done for. hifiguy Feb 2016 #19
i keep thinking of the brouhaha over the florida and michigan delegstes in 2008 restorefreedom Feb 2016 #21
Seriously... Agschmid Feb 2016 #23
Not sure you want to adopt Dr. Antoine Louis' infamous invention Surya Gayatri Feb 2016 #41
Another poster said "this is a fight for the heart and soul of the party" SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #20
perhaps the most existential battle i have seen in my lifetime. nt restorefreedom Feb 2016 #22
K&R. sadoldgirl Feb 2016 #24
Sweep away the corrupt and ineffectual. silverweb Feb 2016 #25
The DNC has been around for longer than any of us. Thinkingabout Feb 2016 #27
there will certainly always be a democratic party imo restorefreedom Feb 2016 #28
Aww, the TP has split the GOP, does not serve them well Thinkingabout Feb 2016 #31
the tea party wing proved to be very effective at obstruction restorefreedom Feb 2016 #34
Obstruction does not equal progress. Bottom line, the DNC is not on a death bed. Thinkingabout Feb 2016 #35
agree about obstructionism. also semi agree about dnc not restorefreedom Feb 2016 #36
Democrats has a large range of believers in the Democrat platform, there are far left, left, middle Thinkingabout Feb 2016 #37
it was always known as a big tent. but the "socialist" attacks on bernie restorefreedom Feb 2016 #38
What kind of "revolution" does the right even want? Blue_Tires Feb 2016 #29
If Trump wasn't bellowing contradictory nonsense he could be highly dangerous Fumesucker Feb 2016 #30
There's ample evidence that the establishment is cooked Hydra Feb 2016 #32
exactly. they keep making things worse as they cling to power. nt restorefreedom Feb 2016 #33
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