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jmowreader

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39. With no expeditionary force to back it up, it isn't a feasible scenario
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 06:41 PM
Feb 2016

Here is an illustration of what would happen if North Korea conducted an unprovoked nuclear attack:



You attack another country because you want something they have. KJU is under the impression the US and their South Korean Puppets are going to just rush up there any minute now and take over his country...because, as we all know, EVERYONE is just rarin' to go to war to capture the world's most un-navigable terrain, technology 30 years out of date, and 25 million starving people. Therefore, he has nuclear weapons as a threat - "invade my country and I'll nuke Hawaii flat." They wouldn't want to nuke South Korea because they need the ROK's industrial base.

Their only major natural resource is rare earths, which are used to make electronics. The DPRK has a LOT of them - the best estimate is North Korea has reserves six times that of China. No one would go to war over rare earths, though; you can get them from China through a normal purchase, and if the stupid bastard that runs North Korea would quit unilaterally cancelling contracts he could sell them easily for all the hard currency North Korea would ever need.

OTOH, the United States has a LOT of things North Korea desperately needs and can't afford to buy, like food and petroleum. There is no way they could take that stuff from here as spoils of war, though: They don't have the troops they need to take over the US, nor the transport to get them there...or the transport to move the looted booty back to the US...or, most critically, the will to fight fifty million heavily-armed American civilians on our home soil.

If KJU were to get up one morning and decide to nuke the United States for no good reason, the generals who have had just about enough of his shit - and who also know nuking the United States without cause would invite instantaneous hundredfold retaliation - would put three rounds in KJU's five ring and the threat would end at that point.

Russia is a different story. They HAVE an expeditionary force, and quite a good one. They have plenty of transport and logistics. They ALSO have the brains to draw America into a war far from the US mainland, which would enable them to cut our supply lines. Look back in history: one of the Nazis' most successful tactics during World War II was to use submarines to sink our supply ships.

Because Russia has the means to prosecute a war and North Korea does not, Russia is a bigger threat to the US than North Korea is.

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Oh, like that will count with HRC supporters. mikehiggins Feb 2016 #1
We just have to be louder & make them hear us.... actually jillan Feb 2016 #3
He said North Korea was ruled by a couple of tyrants. ProudToBeLiberal Feb 2016 #2
That is NOT what he said - omg - here are his exact words.... jillan Feb 2016 #5
you are silly if you think that SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #7
Yup, he caught himself after saying "group of rulers" then to "one ruler". oasis Feb 2016 #19
He didn't correct himself Kentonio Feb 2016 #25
+1 thanks, beat me to it. kristopher Feb 2016 #29
"Handful of dictators....maybe just one". Bernie's exact words. oasis Feb 2016 #36
Exactly. It could be the inner circle running the show or just him. Kentonio Feb 2016 #37
Baby Kim is a sappy dope, but I agree w/ Bernie about his oasis Feb 2016 #43
DPRK is, as Christopher Hitchens said, a necrocity. longship Feb 2016 #32
Do you have a link to your statement? tazkcmo Feb 2016 #33
You do know that Li'l Kim ANNOUNCED this was going to happen WEEKS ago? MADem Feb 2016 #4
Well then maybe Li'l Kim should contact the Prime Minister of Japan because it took him by surprise jillan Feb 2016 #11
No, it didn't "take him by surprise." If it did, he would have shot the thing down. MADem Feb 2016 #13
Thank you for bringing facts, and links, into the conversation. SunSeeker Feb 2016 #15
Thanks! This sort of thing happens so often that I can't (here in Japan) be bothered to freak out. betsuni Feb 2016 #16
Really? How often do you think it happens? You're wrong. Bonobo Feb 2016 #23
It does not happen often here in Japan Art_from_Ark Feb 2016 #27
Thank you. I was like WTF? nt Bonobo Feb 2016 #28
"Li'l Kim ANNOUNCED he was going to do this" Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2016 #18
MADem, I'm afraid you are the one that lacks understanding of Foreign Policy. kristopher Feb 2016 #30
+1 Kristopher. nt Bonobo Feb 2016 #34
So if all of this is common knowledge you get from the newspaper, Goblinmonger Feb 2016 #38
Because this isn't the first time Li'l Kim has pulled this shit, and it won't be the last. MADem Feb 2016 #44
North Korea probably did that just to make Hillary look bad. merrily Feb 2016 #6
Well let's hope Putin doesn't try to make Bernie look bad jillan Feb 2016 #9
Why would a fellow communist and fellow misogynist do that? merrily Feb 2016 #10
Oh yes - I almost forgot about that reset button! jillan Feb 2016 #12
lol! senz Feb 2016 #21
Thanks, senz. You're always on! merrily Feb 2016 #26
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #8
'course he was right. His answer was spot on. Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #14
The pundits are part of the problem. Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2016 #17
Bernie gets to the core of things. He's experienced, wise, and trustworthy at every level. senz Feb 2016 #20
Yes!! I live in Japan and this is not joke! Bonobo Feb 2016 #22
They aren't aiming at you. nt MADem Feb 2016 #45
Don't hold your breath... eom Betty Karlson Feb 2016 #24
I'm going with Russia as more dangerous than the DPRK jmowreader Feb 2016 #31
Yeah, a nuclear attack is no big deal. jeff47 Feb 2016 #35
With no expeditionary force to back it up, it isn't a feasible scenario jmowreader Feb 2016 #39
North Korea has nukes to use them for extortion. jeff47 Feb 2016 #40
They have surface ships, though jmowreader Feb 2016 #41
You mean "targets"? jeff47 Feb 2016 #42
Yep, saw that this morning and thought the same thing....with a few colorful words sprinkled in in_cog_ni_to Feb 2016 #46
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