2016 Postmortem

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59. I never disowned them.

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Women respond to Gloria Steinem's apology: [View all] Flying Squirrel Feb 2016 OP

These young women do not seem impressed. hifiguy Feb 2016 #1

But they themselves have impressed me. nt Snotcicles Feb 2016 #3

Me, too! hifiguy Feb 2016 #6

Same here. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #26

"And This Song Goes Out to Gloria...." John Poet Feb 2016 #197

The older women beltanefauve Feb 2016 #214

Tip: If your apology includes "misinterpreted", you aren't actually apologizing. (nt) jeff47 Feb 2016 #2

Exactly. CLASSIC non-apology "apology". kath Feb 2016 #24

That wasn't an apology by any means Aerows Feb 2016 #36

Yep 840high Feb 2016 #52

These people really don't get it. To do this to one of most well known and admired boston bean Feb 2016 #4

She's the one who said the incredibly insulting and sexist thing Matariki Feb 2016 #7

What did she say? George II Feb 2016 #200

they are not doing anything to her questionseverything Feb 2016 #9

sometimes when someone has been famous and an 'icon' forever roguevalley Feb 2016 #123

Not quite so admired anymore it seems farleftlib Feb 2016 #12

are you kidding?! dana_b Feb 2016 #13

she said that young women (the whole group) are supporting Sanders just to get dates. Doctor_J Feb 2016 #16

So, her comments were perfectly acceptable... Lancero Feb 2016 #17

No i think calling gloria steinem a sexist is the most fucking boston bean Feb 2016 #18

I'm talking about the commentary that Gloria made... Lancero Feb 2016 #20

Well, then I suggest you read the post you responded to, so you can respond to what I wrote. boston bean Feb 2016 #28

Seems to me that you're outraged over people calling her on her sexist comment... Lancero Feb 2016 #33

uh huh... boston bean Feb 2016 #34

Yep. Lancero Feb 2016 #38

uh huh.. boston bean Feb 2016 #39

Uh huh. Uh huh. Uh huh cali Feb 2016 #76

Uh huh Bubzer Feb 2016 #81

Uh huh. cherokeeprogressive Feb 2016 #41

Your words. Own them. passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #58

I never disowned them. boston bean Feb 2016 #59

Then this makes no sense at all. passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #65

Wah???? boston bean Feb 2016 #135

Are you asking a question or choking on something? passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #136

I'm choking on something. boston bean Feb 2016 #137

Yeah, you are passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #140

Uh huh. boston bean Feb 2016 #141

There you go...glad you got that out passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #144

Uh huh boston bean Feb 2016 #147

I think that's the sound of finding yourself painted into a corner n/m Hydra Feb 2016 #139

Right. boston bean Feb 2016 #142

Idol worship. Nevermind the reality, anyone who disagrees or dares stand up to your idol or what you cui bono Feb 2016 #145

It's called an opinion. Strong one at that. Deal. boston bean Feb 2016 #146

Yes, a sexist opinion. You'd rather worship Hillary than stand up for feminism. Deal. cui bono Feb 2016 #149

Funny. boston bean Feb 2016 #163

take steinem out and put someone else's name here and you would roguevalley Feb 2016 #126

I too want an answer to this. SMC22307 Feb 2016 #103

Even when she says something incredibly, unbelievably sexist? paleotn Feb 2016 #86

Gloria Steinem is sexist here. roguevalley Feb 2016 #125

I call her an arrogant fool DonCoquixote Feb 2016 #161

so is calling Bernie Sanders a sexist, but that seems to be acceptable by some HRC supporters zazen Feb 2016 #201

They are the future. Fawke Em Feb 2016 #32

They'll learn all about what she fought for if Ted Cruz wins the WH. nt MADem Feb 2016 #47

What is that supposed to mean? Lordquinton Feb 2016 #63

What it means is what I said it means. Try reading without inherent bias. MADem Feb 2016 #75

OK, but what does any of that have to do with Steinaman alienating women? Lordquinton Feb 2016 #165

Her name is Steinem. MADem Feb 2016 #169

Kinda like the way Michael Moore was thrown under the bus? Lordquinton Feb 2016 #173

What does Michael Moore have to do with it, either? MADem Feb 2016 #204

But how does that fit in? Lordquinton Feb 2016 #212

We won't have to worry about that if Bernie wins the primary. passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #69

Don't count on that, either--Congress is Republican, and if they ever got enough votes to MADem Feb 2016 #82

Won't matter if it's Bernie or Clinton if that happens. passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #91

I think HRC has downticket coattails. I don't think BS does. MADem Feb 2016 #209

Not possible in the Senate.... paleotn Feb 2016 #92

Excuse me? You're going to have to explain that post--I am not taking any point MADem Feb 2016 #207

We know what she fought for, it is Steinem herself, and now Hillary supporters on DU, who have cui bono Feb 2016 #148

I don't presume to speak for girls--or boys. I do know that I wasn't MADem Feb 2016 #171

No one is throwing her under the bus. We are disagreeing with her on these two missteps. cui bono Feb 2016 #175

I wasn't "wink winking." I could lie to you and say I'd never ever--not once as a college student, MADem Feb 2016 #178

Then why mention it? It's kind of like the "some people say..." routine. cui bono Feb 2016 #179

I think it's something an 81 year old would say without even thinking twice about it. MADem Feb 2016 #185

I think you are attempting to diminish what she said, and her insulting 'apology'. cui bono Feb 2016 #187

I do not agree with that assessment. This is not about "accepting" or "not accepting." MADem Feb 2016 #208

Perfect response! Empowerer Feb 2016 #211

+1 betsuni Feb 2016 #191

Exactly... Skidmore Feb 2016 #193

I see so we should credit the womens' movement solely to Gloria Steinem? avaistheone1 Feb 2016 #205

Listen to you! So many strawmen, so little time!!! MADem Feb 2016 #206

I know you won't give a darn, but DaGimpster Feb 2016 #55

Her comment was sexist. Fuck her. 840high Feb 2016 #56

She made a comment you don't like, so "f*ck her?" Empowerer Feb 2016 #121

oh please. let people have their anger on this. She is totally and roguevalley Feb 2016 #127

Why didn't you pick on #4??? 840high Feb 2016 #130

Now don't be silly. #4 was made by a Hillary supporter you sweet, naive thing you. cui bono Feb 2016 #152

Following a conversation helps. It was a response to BB having said "FUCK THEM" to the young women cui bono Feb 2016 #150

I followed the conversation. That's how I know your comment was both obnoxious and inane Empowerer Feb 2016 #158

First of all, it wasn't MY comment. cui bono Feb 2016 #172

did her past entitle her DonCoquixote Feb 2016 #162

Do you agree with her comments? Lordquinton Feb 2016 #60

How dare those lowly snips object to being told they're only cali Feb 2016 #72

A Hillary supporter saying "FUCK THEM" to young women politely expressing their opinions? SMC22307 Feb 2016 #74

^^^THIS^^^ beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #78

Thats about the size of it. Bubzer Feb 2016 #85

Yup farleftlib Feb 2016 #96

How low will the Hillbros go? nt mhatrw Feb 2016 #115

Oh, they're just getting warmed up. SMC22307 Feb 2016 #117

Can you smell the terror? n/m Hydra Feb 2016 #143

Hillbro! cui bono Feb 2016 #154

I agree with you. She's an icon Arazi Feb 2016 #80

This message was self-deleted by its author davidn3600 Feb 2016 #90

I used to look forward to your posts. chervilant Feb 2016 #95

The feeling is mutual. Very sorry to say. boston bean Feb 2016 #116

Well known and admired people make mistakes. creatives4innovation Feb 2016 #97

How is that remark NOT sexist? Could you say it on DU without a hide? nt mhatrw Feb 2016 #114

People like Gloria Steinem are to the women's movement nyabingi Feb 2016 #124

Stay strong nyabingi Arazi Feb 2016 #128

Let them come, and thanks! =) (nt) nyabingi Feb 2016 #157

John Lewis, who, unlike Bernie, really DID march with Dr. King - and went to jail and had his head Empowerer Feb 2016 #166

First off, I wasn't constructing a comparison nyabingi Feb 2016 #195

Your belief that "after having been in Congress for quite a while, {Lewis} has now only made himself Empowerer Feb 2016 #198

Well then tell me how Lewis nyabingi Feb 2016 #202

I'm not your research assistant Empowerer Feb 2016 #210

Haha! That's exactly what I thought nyabingi Feb 2016 #215

yup,pretty sure women can say what they want wendylaroux Feb 2016 #132

I didn't see anyone call Steinem "a sexist" in general, cui bono Feb 2016 #138

is she supposed to be kowtowed to DonCoquixote Feb 2016 #160

You kiss your mother with that mouth? Fairgo Feb 2016 #196

Nice talk. These women have their eyes open and recognize the hypocrisy of H. Clinton rhett o rick Feb 2016 #203

as someone noted on another thread, it was a flip remark on a comedy show cloudythescribbler Feb 2016 #5

a flip SEXIST remark... druidity33 Feb 2016 #180

Wow are you off the mark. cui bono Feb 2016 #181

Implying that young women Aerows Feb 2016 #188

And her "apology" was fine. sheldon Feb 2016 #194

Ouch. beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #8

Steinem should be proud that the young women are voting their principles instead of their gender Doctor_J Feb 2016 #10

exactly dana_b Feb 2016 #14

Exactly, but what I see here from some of the more vocal feminists passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #79

yes - the "how DARE anyone criticize Steinem or Clinton" dana_b Feb 2016 #122

.^that 840high Feb 2016 #61

I am a black woman and Steinem's comment is no worse than white liberals arrogantly Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #11

Ain't that the truth? Empowerer Feb 2016 #21

I agree Flying Squirrel Feb 2016 #22

Agreed. And I'm only referring to black voters in the collective. There are plenty of black voters Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #29

Cornel West calls our black president names without apology- they defend him and even cheer him on Empowerer Feb 2016 #35

Most of them didn't know who Cornel West was until he started shitting on this president. Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #40

Then he became their go-to black person Empowerer Feb 2016 #42

Reminds me of D.L. Hughley: "That's it! Stop counting!" LOL!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #73

If there is a rule that says some people are above criticism then I'd roguevalley Feb 2016 #129

The president is NOT above reproach. But the way he has been (mis)treated is unprecedented. Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #170

that part isn't. Going with the pugs to pass the TPP is. roguevalley Feb 2016 #174

He will be regarded as one of the greatest president's who's ever lived. And a lot of white people Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #183

Yeah, if they are already unbalanced to begin with. cui bono Feb 2016 #189

So let me get this straight farleftlib Feb 2016 #43

Of course they can and should express their displeasure Empowerer Feb 2016 #46

I have not seen one post calling names, discounting GS or any of the other things farleftlib Feb 2016 #88

She did not apologize. Read the OP. The young women pointed that out. cui bono Feb 2016 #168

Yes, those women should know their place! beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #53

What? passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #106

No one is attempting to "destroy her lifetime of contributions". That's quite a stretch. cui bono Feb 2016 #177

I've never seen any of this condescension you speak of. passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #87

Of course you haven't. Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #118

Did that make you feel better? passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #156

Something I would never ever do. So I feel fine saying her comment cali Feb 2016 #111

Note that there are many women Gloria's age DonCoquixote Feb 2016 #15

After a lifetime of busting her ass kicking down doors for these women, Gloria is thrown under the Empowerer Feb 2016 #19

She threw THEM under the goddamn bus. beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #23

Oh, get over yourself Empowerer Feb 2016 #25

You first. It was more than a stupid remark. beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #27

Consider taking your own advice farleftlib Feb 2016 #30

It's not an apology when she blames them for misunderstanding. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #31

A stupid remark that threw a whole group of voters under the bus.... paleotn Feb 2016 #101

boy that is true wendylaroux Feb 2016 #131

Underthebus... underthebuss... underthebusss... underthebussss! There's that chant again. cherokeeprogressive Feb 2016 #44

Calling someone on a sexist comment is a 'childish tantrum'? Lancero Feb 2016 #45

No, it's not Empowerer Feb 2016 #62

She didn't apologize, she said they misunderstood her adding insult to injury. beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #67

See #31 Lancero Feb 2016 #70

She hasn't actually appologized... paleotn Feb 2016 #105

Childish Tantrums now? passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #109

I think the remark Steinem made was sexist bluestateguy Feb 2016 #37

Careful, according to some people in this topic... Lancero Feb 2016 #48

Thanks for saying that. beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #64

Nader has said dumb things, too. I think some people, while brilliant in many respects, merrily Feb 2016 #49

Re the fig tree thing--quite a few scholars think that is an interpolation eridani Feb 2016 #190

How interesting. Thank you. merrily Feb 2016 #199

It's more than the vagina, Gloria. zentrum Feb 2016 #50

I agree. Well said. jalan48 Feb 2016 #68

Word. 840high Feb 2016 #71

I love sunflowers! zentrum Feb 2016 #89

Me 2 - happy plants. 840high Feb 2016 #93

Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2016 #102

Every woman in my family who's zentrum Feb 2016 #151

You really nailed it. eom farleftlib Feb 2016 #108

Could not have said that better passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #110

That's it. zentrum Feb 2016 #153

Hear! Hear! Great post, zentrum! in_cog_ni_to Feb 2016 #119

Thnx! zentrum Feb 2016 #155

I've said for months that Clinton's campaign was sexist by telling us we should vote for Skwmom Feb 2016 #51

Absolutely. She's setting feminism back 40 years Lorien Feb 2016 #107

"I guess she doesn't care as long as we aren't discussing the real issues" kath Feb 2016 #213

Love Steinem but these millennial women are terrific senz Feb 2016 #54

Well said. polichick Feb 2016 #100

Like so Many people, pontificate and then play the victim when the shit hit's the fan . orpupilofnature57 Feb 2016 #57

wow looks like her legacy is taking a hit and some don't buy the apology. Jefferson23 Feb 2016 #66

First, wasn't it just a joke? Fast Walker 52 Feb 2016 #77

If it was a joke passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #113

Yes, it was a joke that didn't come off. betsuni Feb 2016 #176

I really hate that she's getting piled on. She really is terrific Arazi Feb 2016 #83

Her life's work has certainly been terriffic. That statement was not n/t eridani Feb 2016 #216

HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Feb 2016 #84

What a crappy apology mythology Feb 2016 #94

Making a mountain out of a mole hill sheldon Feb 2016 #98

mole hill? DonCoquixote Feb 2016 #159

Steinem's sexist comment was just gross, and her condescending "apology" CharlotteVale Feb 2016 #99

She made a serious mistake in judgment...for whatever reason. She should have apologized. libdem4life Feb 2016 #104

whoa...did she ever step in it! Open mouth, insert foot! in_cog_ni_to Feb 2016 #112

To all those excusing Ms. Steinem because Duppers Feb 2016 #120

Those are some smart women who sure don't seem like they like whatever the boys lilke. cui bono Feb 2016 #133

These young women are fredamae Feb 2016 #134

This thread needs a Theme Song! Zorra Feb 2016 #164

Steinem is 81 years old Jenny_92808 Feb 2016 #167

I think you should put the word "apology" in your title in quotation marks. kath Feb 2016 #182

I considered it.. Flying Squirrel Feb 2016 #184

Good point. The comments by women clearly showed that they didn't consider it a real apology. kath Feb 2016 #186

I love much of what she did; but snot Feb 2016 #192