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2016 Postmortem

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politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 02:36 AM Feb 2016

I just watched the Bernie interview from the Huff Post interview where [View all]

Bernie was asked what would make people vote against there own self interest and Bernie said that he didn't know. But in saying he doesn't know, he's insinuating that a vote against Bernie IS a vote against one's own self interest. Something I don't happen to agree with.

After almost 8 years of gridlock, I don't think we can take another 8 years of more gridlock, or even 4 years of gridlock.

So a Bernie supporter said in another thread that,"You know that Bernie's agenda is not going to happen unless we win a majority of both Houses of Congress"? Well no shit Sherlock!!!!

So listen up Bernie supporters, come 2017, and 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022, 2023, 2024 etc, etc, it's going to be YOUR FAULT that you have no FREE College Education, No FREE Universal Health Care, No 3 months Paid Maternity Leave, No Doubling of your Social Security benefits, because the Dems are not going to control the House before 2022 at the earliest because of gerrymandering and the soonest we could hope to have a major redistricting. That's UUUUUGGGGEEEE I know, but I think you need a dose of reality. None of the GOP is going to vote for new taxes on the wealthy or Big Business, or on anybody for that matter, because of that pledge they all take, and threats of increased taxation will just ensure more businesses leaving the country. Dems in purple states are not going to vote to increase taxes. There was a reason that the Dems lost the House after passing the ACA.

The reason that you're not going to have all those things is because YOU didn't deliver Bernie the Revolution that he needed to pass all that FREE stuff through both houses of Congress. You're not going to have all those things because our nation is 19 Trillion dollars in debt, our nation's infrastructure is crumbling and we are already besieged by growing entitlement programs that we can't afford to pay for now, let alone pay for new entitlement programs, and double a Social Security benefit which is not going to be able to continue to pay its current level of payments in less than 20 years from now if we do nothing to ensure its survivability.

I know many of you Bernie supporters are young and idealists. But, Bernie would be the oldest president to be elected POTUS should he win in November, so it's a good bet that neither of you are going to get to the mountaintop together. So every Revolution needs to have a Plan B.

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And plan B should be.... daleanime Feb 2016 #1
Rehearsing the line, "Please sir, may I have some more?" The nerve of the plebeians wanting out! nt TheBlackAdder Feb 2016 #21
given that the congress wants to impeach HRC now and that roguevalley Feb 2016 #2
It is shocking RobertEarl Feb 2016 #3
Agreed..... daleanime Feb 2016 #22
Wow!!! "They say she murdered people"... Sounds like you're living in the politicaljunkie41910 Feb 2016 #9
your naive dismissal of RW hatred of Hillary puts YOU firmly in the twilight zone virtualobserver Feb 2016 #20
I want to know what specifically you think Hillary is going to accomplish with a GOP congress. Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #31
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Feb 2016 #4
Well, apparently Plan B would be to just stay home and eat popcorn mikehiggins Feb 2016 #5
Hey Sherlock, many of us and not anywhere what you would call young, and still believe in Bernie. highprincipleswork Feb 2016 #6
Well unlike you, I choose to believe in myself. politicaljunkie41910 Feb 2016 #8
Well, when you run for President, let me know, and we'll see if I want to support you. highprincipleswork Feb 2016 #23
You lost me a bit with your last point, but I agree with the rest. Lucinda Feb 2016 #7
So what is Hillary's plan to fix the ACA? RichVRichV Feb 2016 #15
You can find some of the specifics she ahs been talking about here: Lucinda Feb 2016 #16
That's not a one way street. RichVRichV Feb 2016 #24
Which is great, and I know he is a good house liaison too, but at the same time, none of the 29 Lucinda Feb 2016 #28
+1. Hoyt Feb 2016 #18
Sanders is uniting boomers and millennials and a whole lot of people and independents in between ... slipslidingaway Feb 2016 #10
Wow!!! Not one person that you know of, support's Clinton. Where do you live? politicaljunkie41910 Feb 2016 #11
I'm in Indiana Glamrock Feb 2016 #32
People who go on and on about "free stuff" reveal their Republican mindset. kath Feb 2016 #12
I'm where I want to be, and I am now and always will be a member of the Democratic politicaljunkie41910 Feb 2016 #29
"I know many of you Bernie supporters are young and idealists." Fumesucker Feb 2016 #13
Major eye roll on this one. nt artislife Feb 2016 #14
facepalm fits too (n/t) farleftlib Feb 2016 #17
I'll just direct you here... TCJ70 Feb 2016 #19
Everyone Dies. Nothing Matters. The Universe is Pointless. Give Up. Armstead Feb 2016 #25
Bernie's core of supporters Dawson Leery Feb 2016 #26
They are nice goals, but... Mike Nelson Feb 2016 #27
I know many of you Bernie supporters are young and idealists. azmom Feb 2016 #30
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