2016 Postmortem

JonLeibowitz

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5. In your dreams! This stuff is small potatoes. If this is all you've got, Sanders is going to do well

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Tue Feb 9, 2016, 11:44 AM

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The vetting has begun.... [View all] MADem Feb 2016 OP

To your last "article", a lot of libertarianism is the opposite of authoritarianism, not liberalism. JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #1

Those were all on the same page--DB aggregates, though. MADem Feb 2016 #8

Some notes about libertarians. Hortensis Feb 2016 #36

We have a different brand of right-wing-libertarian in this country that wants to close libraries... Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2016 #69

I don't get the Libertarian angle Lordquinton Feb 2016 #80

They don't know what either means.... Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2016 #84

First he's too liberal, then too conservative Lordquinton Feb 2016 #88

That's what happens when you lie. Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2016 #92

^^^THIS^^^ beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #129

LOL, but scary too. Fascist leaders really do not want or Hortensis Feb 2016 #82

Exactly, under Libertarianism there would be no zoning laws.... Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2016 #83

That's what a natural teacher does, Spitfire. senz Feb 2016 #89

Reminds me of the fish in Richard Bach's "Illusions".... Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2016 #98

Interesting. But it should be easier to help brainwashed Americans senz Feb 2016 #109

Reaganism is worse. It has all the elements of a cult.... Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2016 #117

Yes, the emotional pull. Same with Hillary senz Feb 2016 #133

It was really demonstrated when they threw Nancy under the bus over stem cells. Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2016 #134

You noticed that too? beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #51

Ask Ron and Rand Paul shenmue Feb 2016 #132

Bernt. nt LexVegas Feb 2016 #2

It's about time! The free-ride is over. People are paying attention ... NurseJackie Feb 2016 #3

In your dreams! This stuff is small potatoes. If this is all you've got, Sanders is going to do well JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #5

The care of our Veterans is not small potatoes! leftofcool Feb 2016 #27

I agree. It is a good thing I did not say that. n/t JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #30

From your post ".. This stuff is small potatoes." riversedge Feb 2016 #56

bern enid602 Feb 2016 #71

free-ride SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #6

Really? Nobody's brought up the F35 before this? Or the trouble with this Congress Arazi Feb 2016 #13

Wishful thinking RiverLover Feb 2016 #16

You need to refresh your definition of "coasting". Clinton has been "coasting" while dodging rhett o rick Feb 2016 #21

This is old crap...Worth discussing but hardly some new "relevation" Armstead Feb 2016 #86

Interesting reads DesertRat Feb 2016 #4

He gets support because we intend to toss the ones who won't do their job 2pooped2pop Feb 2016 #7

Sadly, I think Sanders' nomination will get us someone like this on the Supreme Court. Hoyt Feb 2016 #9

"I admire Sanders in a lot of ways, but I don't believe 50+% will show such admiration at the polls" MADem Feb 2016 #18

If Bloomberg gets in, then we don't NEED 50%. John Poet Feb 2016 #76

No, he isn't. You don't know a thing about the guy, apparently. MADem Feb 2016 #87

I DID know that he HAD been a Democrat, but ran for Mayor John Poet Feb 2016 #93

Ha ha ha! Listen to YOU--you sound like you're OOZING WITH DISDAIN!! MADem Feb 2016 #100

OK, I have gone and educated myself about him some... John Poet Feb 2016 #126

The Dem field was PACKED the year he decided to run. MADem Feb 2016 #128

Hill's Supreme Court would be 100% Wall Street-friendly. senz Feb 2016 #91

He's a hypocrite. It's about time for facts to overcome emotion. However, I can see the Sanders livetohike Feb 2016 #10

Not nice as Hillary's baggage-in-waiting. nc4bo Feb 2016 #14

I think it's a three-fer. Chelsea is chomping at the bits to wear the third crown...make no mistake. libdem4life Feb 2016 #19

Here's the reality... AOR Feb 2016 #28

I disagree. There are no "degrees of hypocrisy". The vetting has begun and now we see the livetohike Feb 2016 #33

Who is doing the talking matters... AOR Feb 2016 #52

Lol. The lying Clintonian meme that he hasn't been vetted cali Feb 2016 #11

He has not been vetted. He went about his job quietly without making waves and no reason to livetohike Feb 2016 #35

Ooooooooooooooooo Gosh. bernis is a practical politician...He's lost my vote Armstead Feb 2016 #90

'Bout time jehop61 Feb 2016 #12

More Clinton sleazy smears. Cheese Sandwich Feb 2016 #15

Could you elaborate? What, specifically, in those articles is false, or a "smear?" TIA. nt MADem Feb 2016 #20

Yeah, we got that... quickesst Feb 2016 #68

this...the "articles" are distortions; and the military one is laughable...proves zip amborin Feb 2016 #116

Yes, indeed, let's just hand over the Presidency to a Republican who CAN get something done. libdem4life Feb 2016 #17

Could you possibly be more rude? I posted three articles without comment, and you go straight MADem Feb 2016 #25

THIS... Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #38

Absolutely--"status quo" all the way! nt MADem Feb 2016 #47

A WEEE bit sensitive, aren't we? NT hueymahl Feb 2016 #65

Who are YOU? MADem Feb 2016 #74

Who am I? hueymahl Feb 2016 #99

I think you overestimate your talents. MADem Feb 2016 #101

Me thinks thou dost protest too much hueymahl Feb 2016 #102

Methinks otherwise--but thank you for trying to play. MADem Feb 2016 #131

Good, the sooner the better. The virtual media black out was damaging him. Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #22

I appreciate your take on things. After the bullshit "poor Bill looks sick" thread bettyellen Feb 2016 #54

I agree, that was bull shit. But the flannel shirt and jeans costume thread I liked. Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #55

I don't think that is relevant either, was disappointed only one or two people bettyellen Feb 2016 #58

Rather dark humor, but this line of yours made me laugh.... MADem Feb 2016 #61

If 2/3 of the folks on that thread spreading fake concern have not posted about how they hate Bill bettyellen Feb 2016 #64

Ah yes John Avlon Paulie Feb 2016 #23

He didn't write all the articles posted. MADem Feb 2016 #48

Just found that out. We stopped The Nation years ago when they hired Rove. Duval Feb 2016 #121

Actually... casperthegm Feb 2016 #24

He wasn't "owning up" or taking any action at all in the thick of it, though. MADem Feb 2016 #50

He and the others on the committee should have done better casperthegm Feb 2016 #53

As far as I know, she spent 11 hours telling a partisan Congressional committee everything she MADem Feb 2016 #139

Agreed. She did well. But she still bears responsibility. casperthegm Feb 2016 #144

Congressional Oversight? Depaysement Feb 2016 #26

Congress has been making cuts to VA for many years under Bush and Obama. This was not Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #39

I'm not blaming President Obama Depaysement Feb 2016 #72

But he blames the president, and he knows damn well that Republicans have been cutting Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #78

Let it all come out cosmicone Feb 2016 #29

If only HRC supporters were as "observant" of HRC's very real corruption U of M Dem Feb 2016 #122

IOKIYABS - I expected it. cosmicone Feb 2016 #125

right back atcha IOKIYAHS (I think) U of M Dem Feb 2016 #127

So you are saying just because Hillary is rich and experieneced, cosmicone Feb 2016 #130

I see no links, no proof, just speculations that reach hard. U of M Dem Feb 2016 #135

DU rec...nt SidDithers Feb 2016 #31

So you are saying that Veterans were neglected under the Obama administration by citing Cato? Bluenorthwest Feb 2016 #32

" 'Allow me to cite the Koch Bros against Sanders' is what DU has come to." beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #60

The media "ignored" Sanders NastyRiffraff Feb 2016 #34

I agree with that... TTUBatfan2008 Feb 2016 #44

Hopefully that vetting will continue, as it should. Sanders has to EARN votes by convincing us Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #37

Yes, let's talk veterans' issues--remember this slow-on-the-uptake moment from Clinton? TwilightGardener Feb 2016 #40

The more you deflect, the more you lose! This is about SANDERS, not HRC!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #42

Sanders has worked pretty hard to correct the VA's systemic problems, TwilightGardener Feb 2016 #43

NO!! President Obama worked on that issue. I work at HUD and we work very closely with the VA Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #45

The VA scandal was one of the few Obama had on his watch. TwilightGardener Feb 2016 #49

Yours Truly has been making the same argument as Mr. Boaz.. Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #41

Interesting read... Spazito Feb 2016 #46

Interesting a US Senator is being blamed HassleCat Feb 2016 #57

If you're referring to the VA, he was the committee CHAIRMAN. His job was OVERSIGHT. MADem Feb 2016 #59

How much of it was President Obama's fault? Or his hand picked Secretary? Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2016 #63

Sanders doesn't own it all, he can share it with those guys. MADem Feb 2016 #106

Too bad he didn't let the Koch brothers privatize the VA. Right? mhatrw Feb 2016 #75

Are you saying he had a choice between shirking his responsibilities and letting the Koch Bros. MADem Feb 2016 #104

He did an awesome job. He just did not want to publicly browbeat the VA while the Koch brothers were mhatrw Feb 2016 #107

Had he exercised oversight before the shit hit the fan, he wouldn't have had to "browbeat" MADem Feb 2016 #114

Yes, of course. HassleCat Feb 2016 #81

The blank check in Iraq or DOMA wasn't voted on by a committee. It's not the same thing. MADem Feb 2016 #142

Verrry interesting. nt retrowire Feb 2016 #67

In the meanwhile... Helen Borg Feb 2016 #62

Not planned but accepted. Our last 3 elected Presidents lost New Hampshire, as well. randome Feb 2016 #66

No! No! Wait! It's too soon! I don't want any vetting! I like things just the way they are! randome Feb 2016 #70

Sanders is already accomplishing something we need, and Duval Feb 2016 #73

No, not really--it might seem that way from a distance, but he's the ULTIMATE party insider. MADem Feb 2016 #77

I disagree and I don't ever go to CNN for honesty in reporting. Duval Feb 2016 #94

With what, precisely, do you disagree? MADem Feb 2016 #97

Wow, you're way ahead of me, MADem. Duval Feb 2016 #111

About time. DCBob Feb 2016 #79

You forgot something Armstead Feb 2016 #85

Well, I didn't 'forget' anything--I mean, the idea of putting up articles is to get others to MADem Feb 2016 #96

This hit piece on Senator Sanders will be EASY for him to refute. senz Feb 2016 #95

And it doesn't look good for Hillary. hobbit709 Feb 2016 #103

Clintonias getting desperate.... berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #105

You do know that the "VFW" is a "fraternal" group? They have no authority over the VA. MADem Feb 2016 #108

Spin spin spin... berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #110

Aren't you rude! LOL! MADem Feb 2016 #118

my point was berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #120

More Veterans for Bernie.... berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #112

Karl Rove tactics... berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #113

No. Pointing out that someone didn't do their job is not a "Karl Rove tactic." MADem Feb 2016 #115

Inferring that Bernie doesn't fight for Veterans rights is yellow bellied spin...and you know it... berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #119

I don't think there was any inferance implied. It was stated fact. Sheepshank Feb 2016 #123

Who are you to tell me about my "better moments?" You've been here a week--ostensibly. MADem Feb 2016 #136

I called your tactics Rovian... and...just because you've been here berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #137

You did a lot more than that--anyone can read the garbage you wrote, unless you do the decent thing MADem Feb 2016 #138

I have in no way personally insulted you.. I am merely arguing the facts and labeling berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #141

Yes, you have. You directly personally insulted me upthread, and I called you on it. nt MADem Feb 2016 #143

Marvelous! Thanks berniepdx420. Duval Feb 2016 #124

So it sounds to me like Sanders would be able to get traction on ending the drug war Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #140