2016 Postmortem

Duval

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94. I disagree and I don't ever go to CNN for honesty in reporting.

Tue Feb 9, 2016, 03:21 PM

Feb 2016

And our MSM was hijacked long ago. We have moved too far to the right and Bernie's message may be of real help. I'll look into more, though. And I appreciate your response.

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The vetting has begun.... [View all] MADem Feb 2016 OP

To your last "article", a lot of libertarianism is the opposite of authoritarianism, not liberalism. JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #1

Those were all on the same page--DB aggregates, though. MADem Feb 2016 #8

Some notes about libertarians. Hortensis Feb 2016 #36

We have a different brand of right-wing-libertarian in this country that wants to close libraries... Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2016 #69

I don't get the Libertarian angle Lordquinton Feb 2016 #80

They don't know what either means.... Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2016 #84

First he's too liberal, then too conservative Lordquinton Feb 2016 #88

That's what happens when you lie. Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2016 #92

^^^THIS^^^ beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #129

LOL, but scary too. Fascist leaders really do not want or Hortensis Feb 2016 #82

Exactly, under Libertarianism there would be no zoning laws.... Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2016 #83

That's what a natural teacher does, Spitfire. senz Feb 2016 #89

Reminds me of the fish in Richard Bach's "Illusions".... Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2016 #98

Interesting. But it should be easier to help brainwashed Americans senz Feb 2016 #109

Reaganism is worse. It has all the elements of a cult.... Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2016 #117

Yes, the emotional pull. Same with Hillary senz Feb 2016 #133

It was really demonstrated when they threw Nancy under the bus over stem cells. Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2016 #134

You noticed that too? beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #51

Ask Ron and Rand Paul shenmue Feb 2016 #132

Bernt. nt LexVegas Feb 2016 #2

It's about time! The free-ride is over. People are paying attention ... NurseJackie Feb 2016 #3

In your dreams! This stuff is small potatoes. If this is all you've got, Sanders is going to do well JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #5

The care of our Veterans is not small potatoes! leftofcool Feb 2016 #27

I agree. It is a good thing I did not say that. n/t JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #30

From your post ".. This stuff is small potatoes." riversedge Feb 2016 #56

bern enid602 Feb 2016 #71

free-ride SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #6

Really? Nobody's brought up the F35 before this? Or the trouble with this Congress Arazi Feb 2016 #13

Wishful thinking RiverLover Feb 2016 #16

You need to refresh your definition of "coasting". Clinton has been "coasting" while dodging rhett o rick Feb 2016 #21

This is old crap...Worth discussing but hardly some new "relevation" Armstead Feb 2016 #86

Interesting reads DesertRat Feb 2016 #4

He gets support because we intend to toss the ones who won't do their job 2pooped2pop Feb 2016 #7

Sadly, I think Sanders' nomination will get us someone like this on the Supreme Court. Hoyt Feb 2016 #9

"I admire Sanders in a lot of ways, but I don't believe 50+% will show such admiration at the polls" MADem Feb 2016 #18

If Bloomberg gets in, then we don't NEED 50%. John Poet Feb 2016 #76

No, he isn't. You don't know a thing about the guy, apparently. MADem Feb 2016 #87

I DID know that he HAD been a Democrat, but ran for Mayor John Poet Feb 2016 #93

Ha ha ha! Listen to YOU--you sound like you're OOZING WITH DISDAIN!! MADem Feb 2016 #100

OK, I have gone and educated myself about him some... John Poet Feb 2016 #126

The Dem field was PACKED the year he decided to run. MADem Feb 2016 #128

Hill's Supreme Court would be 100% Wall Street-friendly. senz Feb 2016 #91

He's a hypocrite. It's about time for facts to overcome emotion. However, I can see the Sanders livetohike Feb 2016 #10

Not nice as Hillary's baggage-in-waiting. nc4bo Feb 2016 #14

I think it's a three-fer. Chelsea is chomping at the bits to wear the third crown...make no mistake. libdem4life Feb 2016 #19

Here's the reality... AOR Feb 2016 #28

I disagree. There are no "degrees of hypocrisy". The vetting has begun and now we see the livetohike Feb 2016 #33

Who is doing the talking matters... AOR Feb 2016 #52

Lol. The lying Clintonian meme that he hasn't been vetted cali Feb 2016 #11

He has not been vetted. He went about his job quietly without making waves and no reason to livetohike Feb 2016 #35

Ooooooooooooooooo Gosh. bernis is a practical politician...He's lost my vote Armstead Feb 2016 #90

'Bout time jehop61 Feb 2016 #12

More Clinton sleazy smears. Cheese Sandwich Feb 2016 #15

Could you elaborate? What, specifically, in those articles is false, or a "smear?" TIA. nt MADem Feb 2016 #20

Yeah, we got that... quickesst Feb 2016 #68

this...the "articles" are distortions; and the military one is laughable...proves zip amborin Feb 2016 #116

Yes, indeed, let's just hand over the Presidency to a Republican who CAN get something done. libdem4life Feb 2016 #17

Could you possibly be more rude? I posted three articles without comment, and you go straight MADem Feb 2016 #25

THIS... Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #38

Absolutely--"status quo" all the way! nt MADem Feb 2016 #47

A WEEE bit sensitive, aren't we? NT hueymahl Feb 2016 #65

Who are YOU? MADem Feb 2016 #74

Who am I? hueymahl Feb 2016 #99

I think you overestimate your talents. MADem Feb 2016 #101

Me thinks thou dost protest too much hueymahl Feb 2016 #102

Methinks otherwise--but thank you for trying to play. MADem Feb 2016 #131

Good, the sooner the better. The virtual media black out was damaging him. Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #22

I appreciate your take on things. After the bullshit "poor Bill looks sick" thread bettyellen Feb 2016 #54

I agree, that was bull shit. But the flannel shirt and jeans costume thread I liked. Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #55

I don't think that is relevant either, was disappointed only one or two people bettyellen Feb 2016 #58

Rather dark humor, but this line of yours made me laugh.... MADem Feb 2016 #61

If 2/3 of the folks on that thread spreading fake concern have not posted about how they hate Bill bettyellen Feb 2016 #64

Ah yes John Avlon Paulie Feb 2016 #23

He didn't write all the articles posted. MADem Feb 2016 #48

Just found that out. We stopped The Nation years ago when they hired Rove. Duval Feb 2016 #121

Actually... casperthegm Feb 2016 #24

He wasn't "owning up" or taking any action at all in the thick of it, though. MADem Feb 2016 #50

He and the others on the committee should have done better casperthegm Feb 2016 #53

As far as I know, she spent 11 hours telling a partisan Congressional committee everything she MADem Feb 2016 #139

Agreed. She did well. But she still bears responsibility. casperthegm Feb 2016 #144

Congressional Oversight? Depaysement Feb 2016 #26

Congress has been making cuts to VA for many years under Bush and Obama. This was not Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #39

I'm not blaming President Obama Depaysement Feb 2016 #72

But he blames the president, and he knows damn well that Republicans have been cutting Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #78

Let it all come out cosmicone Feb 2016 #29

If only HRC supporters were as "observant" of HRC's very real corruption U of M Dem Feb 2016 #122

IOKIYABS - I expected it. cosmicone Feb 2016 #125

right back atcha IOKIYAHS (I think) U of M Dem Feb 2016 #127

So you are saying just because Hillary is rich and experieneced, cosmicone Feb 2016 #130

I see no links, no proof, just speculations that reach hard. U of M Dem Feb 2016 #135

DU rec...nt SidDithers Feb 2016 #31

So you are saying that Veterans were neglected under the Obama administration by citing Cato? Bluenorthwest Feb 2016 #32

" 'Allow me to cite the Koch Bros against Sanders' is what DU has come to." beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #60

The media "ignored" Sanders NastyRiffraff Feb 2016 #34

I agree with that... TTUBatfan2008 Feb 2016 #44

Hopefully that vetting will continue, as it should. Sanders has to EARN votes by convincing us Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #37

Yes, let's talk veterans' issues--remember this slow-on-the-uptake moment from Clinton? TwilightGardener Feb 2016 #40

The more you deflect, the more you lose! This is about SANDERS, not HRC!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #42

Sanders has worked pretty hard to correct the VA's systemic problems, TwilightGardener Feb 2016 #43

NO!! President Obama worked on that issue. I work at HUD and we work very closely with the VA Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #45

The VA scandal was one of the few Obama had on his watch. TwilightGardener Feb 2016 #49

Yours Truly has been making the same argument as Mr. Boaz.. Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #41

Interesting read... Spazito Feb 2016 #46

Interesting a US Senator is being blamed HassleCat Feb 2016 #57

If you're referring to the VA, he was the committee CHAIRMAN. His job was OVERSIGHT. MADem Feb 2016 #59

How much of it was President Obama's fault? Or his hand picked Secretary? Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2016 #63

Sanders doesn't own it all, he can share it with those guys. MADem Feb 2016 #106

Too bad he didn't let the Koch brothers privatize the VA. Right? mhatrw Feb 2016 #75

Are you saying he had a choice between shirking his responsibilities and letting the Koch Bros. MADem Feb 2016 #104

He did an awesome job. He just did not want to publicly browbeat the VA while the Koch brothers were mhatrw Feb 2016 #107

Had he exercised oversight before the shit hit the fan, he wouldn't have had to "browbeat" MADem Feb 2016 #114

Yes, of course. HassleCat Feb 2016 #81

The blank check in Iraq or DOMA wasn't voted on by a committee. It's not the same thing. MADem Feb 2016 #142

Verrry interesting. nt retrowire Feb 2016 #67

In the meanwhile... Helen Borg Feb 2016 #62

Not planned but accepted. Our last 3 elected Presidents lost New Hampshire, as well. randome Feb 2016 #66

No! No! Wait! It's too soon! I don't want any vetting! I like things just the way they are! randome Feb 2016 #70

Sanders is already accomplishing something we need, and Duval Feb 2016 #73

No, not really--it might seem that way from a distance, but he's the ULTIMATE party insider. MADem Feb 2016 #77

I disagree and I don't ever go to CNN for honesty in reporting. Duval Feb 2016 #94

With what, precisely, do you disagree? MADem Feb 2016 #97

Wow, you're way ahead of me, MADem. Duval Feb 2016 #111

About time. DCBob Feb 2016 #79

You forgot something Armstead Feb 2016 #85

Well, I didn't 'forget' anything--I mean, the idea of putting up articles is to get others to MADem Feb 2016 #96

This hit piece on Senator Sanders will be EASY for him to refute. senz Feb 2016 #95

And it doesn't look good for Hillary. hobbit709 Feb 2016 #103

Clintonias getting desperate.... berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #105

You do know that the "VFW" is a "fraternal" group? They have no authority over the VA. MADem Feb 2016 #108

Spin spin spin... berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #110

Aren't you rude! LOL! MADem Feb 2016 #118

my point was berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #120

More Veterans for Bernie.... berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #112

Karl Rove tactics... berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #113

No. Pointing out that someone didn't do their job is not a "Karl Rove tactic." MADem Feb 2016 #115

Inferring that Bernie doesn't fight for Veterans rights is yellow bellied spin...and you know it... berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #119

I don't think there was any inferance implied. It was stated fact. Sheepshank Feb 2016 #123

Who are you to tell me about my "better moments?" You've been here a week--ostensibly. MADem Feb 2016 #136

I called your tactics Rovian... and...just because you've been here berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #137

You did a lot more than that--anyone can read the garbage you wrote, unless you do the decent thing MADem Feb 2016 #138

I have in no way personally insulted you.. I am merely arguing the facts and labeling berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #141

Yes, you have. You directly personally insulted me upthread, and I called you on it. nt MADem Feb 2016 #143

Marvelous! Thanks berniepdx420. Duval Feb 2016 #124

So it sounds to me like Sanders would be able to get traction on ending the drug war Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #140