2016 Postmortem

Stardust

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103. She needs to work on her care-actor.

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Slate:"Why Do Young People Have Such Visceral Dislike for Hillary?" [View all] Attorney in Texas Feb 2016 OP

It's women of all ages. Hun Joro Feb 2016 #1

true, well, at least for me. Karma13612 Feb 2016 #124

I think she personifies the passive-aggressive mother, supervisor, teacher we've all come to despise Stardust Feb 2016 #2

Whoa. Interesting admission on your part. I remember reading that men often cannot handle bettyellen Feb 2016 #7

DU has the most amazing armchair psychiatrists and Ph.D.'s here. closeupready Feb 2016 #11

this poster assumes "we've all come to despise" many good women in our lives?!?! LOL. bettyellen Feb 2016 #19

And many people resent guys who remiond them of mean Dads, bosses and drill sergeants Armstead Feb 2016 #70

you mean "passive aggressive" Dads, LOL. I think the obvious connection in that list is obvious. bettyellen Feb 2016 #77

Exactly. And it's so personal. How is she different from Kerry? (And he's a multi-millionaire, too) deurbano Feb 2016 #165

Bernie was just saying the same- Dems will HAVE to come together soon. You hit the nail on bettyellen Feb 2016 #168

The poster opened themselves up to it pretty nicely ProudToBeBlueInRhody Feb 2016 #126

Especially amazing that they can also diagnose someone's gender from that... regnaD kciN Feb 2016 #181

Too bad I never did guess a gender. Diagnose? WTF does that mean, LOL. bettyellen Feb 2016 #198

I've had women supervisors that were competent and I've had some hobbit709 Feb 2016 #18

Have you "come to despise" multiple women who just happened to be in a more powerful bettyellen Feb 2016 #20

Only the incompetent and greedy ones. hobbit709 Feb 2016 #24

How many young students know how "greedy" their teachers are? Their bosses? bettyellen Feb 2016 #31

A long time ago I learned to recognize those hobbit709 Feb 2016 #35

When you were a child- or student in school? LOL- pretending there is no context is hilarious.... bettyellen Feb 2016 #38

By the time I was 16, since I'm 65 now, it was a long time ago. hobbit709 Feb 2016 #41

I don't agree with you it is normal to "despise" multiple women and think that has bettyellen Feb 2016 #52

Is that what you remember reading? pangaia Feb 2016 #32

When someone admits despising many women in power.....I believe them. bettyellen Feb 2016 #42

Baloney. zentrum Feb 2016 #33

I don't assume anything other than they deeply resented women in control- so much so, bettyellen Feb 2016 #55

Gee, I don't zentrum Feb 2016 #117

Elizabeth Warren is deeply unknown. No one knows why the fuck she was a republican.... bettyellen Feb 2016 #122

No, the Republicans were at their zentrum Feb 2016 #141

the Republicans of the 80s were hateful bigots and that matters to many. bettyellen Feb 2016 #148

Whoa. zentrum Feb 2016 #163

sorry, but life is too complicated to solve with one easy trick. bettyellen Feb 2016 #166

..+1 840high Feb 2016 #130

female here greymouse Feb 2016 #62

do you think "we have all come to despise" moms, teachers and female bosses though? bettyellen Feb 2016 #69

Not all... Glamrock Feb 2016 #160

^^This^^ zentrum Feb 2016 #115

Whoa. First of all, I'm female and Hillary's age. To interpret my comment that I hate all women in Stardust Feb 2016 #100

I never guessed your sex. You imagined "most of us despise many women" they have known. bettyellen Feb 2016 #108

You are so far off base, I don't know where to begin. Look up ther definition of passive-aggressive Stardust Feb 2016 #114

You are off base when you imagine all this despising of women. That shit is not healthy- sorry. bettyellen Feb 2016 #118

No, your caricature of another poster is off-base. jeff47 Feb 2016 #197

Thanks for womansplain' that roaminronin Feb 2016 #175

I think you're on to something. Vinca Feb 2016 #13

WOW. More mommy issues over here. bettyellen Feb 2016 #21

That's very true. Vinca Feb 2016 #185

Oops. I'm sure bettyellen is very sad about haranguing you with her LondonReign2 Feb 2016 #203

Well, my mother was great but I've known plenty of crones. nt Stardust Feb 2016 #101

See my comment below. zentrum Feb 2016 #34

LOL, as I read I saw the picture of her waving her finger in the jwirr Feb 2016 #51

I've seen the video, and it's breathtakingly arrogant SheilaT Feb 2016 #89

She needs to work on her care-actor. Stardust Feb 2016 #103

For me and for what it's worth swilton Feb 2016 #54

Thank you for your comment. Stardust Feb 2016 #105

Manipulative, condescending... Helen Borg Feb 2016 #74

Oh boy, did you sum it up. Stardust Feb 2016 #107

Insincere, artificial, saccharine, cancer, warmonger, republican-lite? VulgarPoet Feb 2016 #191

Women are used to having male candidates remind them of their fathers pnwmom Feb 2016 #111

Um, no. She has no populist message noiretextatique Feb 2016 #186

Where are the TRANSCRIPTS HILLARY?????? Dustlawyer Feb 2016 #3

cuz she's a one percenter? ViseGrip Feb 2016 #4

Young people are rebellious and anti-establishment cosmicone Feb 2016 #5

When will Hillary tell her supporters to stop attacking millenials? beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #6

like they are "low info" voters with "stockholm syndrome"? LOL. Okay. bettyellen Feb 2016 #8

That's exactly what they're saying, very astute of you! beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #12

That Op was written about POC, and got loads of recs from Berners - but please proceed.... bettyellen Feb 2016 #26

And yet you guys are doing the same thing to millenials and especially young women. beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #28

Good point - I had a 840high Feb 2016 #132

They need to start calling out their associates, the things they said were cruel. beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #136

I saw Albright say something stupid, but DUers not so much. OTOH, I saw DUers say stupid shit that bettyellen Feb 2016 #170

Then you need to read more, bettyellen, they've been saying stupid things since before Albright. beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #171

No thanks, I am pretty much done after the wishing Billl dead thread. If that gross bettyellen Feb 2016 #172

Cognitive dissonance: ur doin it rite beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #173

Didn't you see what Bettyellen was doing literally just upthread? VulgarPoet Feb 2016 #192

Those who have become staunch Bernie supporters cosmicone Feb 2016 #9

Very good, that's exactly the problem I'm talking about. You get a cookie too. beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #16

The only manipulating going on farleftlib Feb 2016 #10

Well, that's a winning strategy. Old Crow Feb 2016 #17

And then wonder why they don't support your candidate. beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #22

Let's be honest- will they vote in the midterms or be pissed off the revolution didn't happen? bettyellen Feb 2016 #36

From your question, it's pretty clear you think they won't vote in the midterms. Old Crow Feb 2016 #43

I'm curious about when this was true? 20-somethings have changed the course of U.S. politics before. bettyellen Feb 2016 #49

Here are a few topics to Google to bring yourself up to speed. Old Crow Feb 2016 #66

Interesting- the Boomers are slammed here repeatedly, but at least you are trying to bettyellen Feb 2016 #82

Boomers are slammed for what they did after their 20s. jeff47 Feb 2016 #199

I had read it was "the greatest" that put Reagan in power. And that shit snowballed bettyellen Feb 2016 #200

The media takeover was in the 1990s. jeff47 Feb 2016 #201

the fight against the Fairness Doctrine started in the 80's, which laid ground for bettyellen Feb 2016 #205

They overwhelmingly understand that bernie cali Feb 2016 #47

If only the average voter was a Redditor! But they aren't. bettyellen Feb 2016 #56

Uhm actually - reddit is insanely popular. Mother Of Four Feb 2016 #106

I know- but now post the demographics and do that math! bettyellen Feb 2016 #109

Post the demographics and do the math? Mother Of Four Feb 2016 #121

I have been a Reddit reader for many years, LOL. It's mostly young white men- in case you hadn't bettyellen Feb 2016 #123

LOL. There's a lot of women on there - even some older ones. Fawke Em Feb 2016 #209

Dat ain't the establishment. lol You clearly don't get it. nt retrowire Feb 2016 #27

Tell me more about me, please!!! Krytan11c Feb 2016 #30

Winning comment. Old Crow Feb 2016 #71

Thanks old crow!! Krytan11c Feb 2016 #92

Millennial Here! gelatinous cube Feb 2016 #45

hi low-post count person cosmicone Feb 2016 #65

Classic. frylock Feb 2016 #129

Generally, newbies who post like pros cosmicone Feb 2016 #133

I'll take that as a compliment n/t gelatinous cube Feb 2016 #155

You were never low post? How special. 840high Feb 2016 #135

Over the years I have suffered losses here at DU chknltl Feb 2016 #167

Welcome to DU. Thank you for your input. think Feb 2016 #78

Happy to be here n/t gelatinous cube Feb 2016 #84

Your username brings me back to Nethack days Rocky the Leprechaun Feb 2016 #161

I'm the mother of a couple of Millennials, and you've SheilaT Feb 2016 #96

Excellent post!! Blus4u Feb 2016 #156

Well said. Welcome to the Democratic Underground chknltl Feb 2016 #162

Wow, more ageist condescending screeds about "those dumn kids" by Hillary supporters. Odin2005 Feb 2016 #59

Perhaps it has something to do with Clinton's supporters Bettie Feb 2016 #79

I find posts like this, that claim Hillary is not establishment, are incredible. mikehiggins Feb 2016 #85

So her time as a board member of Walmart and as "co-president" gave her no ties the establishment Chakab Feb 2016 #125

but youngins have another trait - they hate studying. DonCoquixote Feb 2016 #127

Bernie more establishment??? 1 thing you should know, though... Herman4747 Feb 2016 #138

Community vs Narcissism roaminronin Feb 2016 #178

Your candidate sucks: young people know it noiretextatique Feb 2016 #187

Oh good, more Hillaryites attacking young people LondonReign2 Feb 2016 #204

They want a better future loyalsister Feb 2016 #14

Young people are less tolerant of hypocrisy, it really rankles them Fumesucker Feb 2016 #15

The definition of feminism has changed. TheBlackAdder Feb 2016 #23

Thanks for the definition and great links Cassidy Feb 2016 #58

For me, retrowire Feb 2016 #25

Interesting that more than half of the Bernie people I know have never voted before. bettyellen Feb 2016 #37

Most of the Bernie supporters I know have been voting for 30-40 years or so, if not longer. hobbit709 Feb 2016 #61

I have a good friend who is really smart, but hates Hillary's personality... bettyellen Feb 2016 #67

Well (let me drop this here) ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #63

But we have people proudly admitting Mommy issues! bettyellen Feb 2016 #73

Must have missed that one. LOL. 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #87

apparently "we've all come to despise passive aggressive moms, teachers and supervisors" bettyellen Feb 2016 #91

Yeah ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #95

It blows my mind that no one else said "Nope- not hating on a long list of women who bettyellen Feb 2016 #97

Check Dr. Frist's diagnosis upthread. frylock Feb 2016 #131

Are you saying that you want people not to vote, only if they support SammyWinstonJack Feb 2016 #68

Nope, I am saying I am cynical about young people staying engaged past Bernie's bettyellen Feb 2016 #72

I think, the habit will remain if I see a system that actually works for me. nt retrowire Feb 2016 #86

But how many years is it before we can redraw the congressional districts? There is no quick fix. bettyellen Feb 2016 #94

Indeed. retrowire Feb 2016 #99

Yeah, I wish I had more faith there will be a sustained effort. I volunteered for Super Tuesday... bettyellen Feb 2016 #104

I call bs. It's intellectual. Viscera have nothing to do with it, until merrily Feb 2016 #29

^^THIS^^ farleftlib Feb 2016 #39

well you have people upthread likening her to a "mean mommy or teacher" so yeah.... bettyellen Feb 2016 #60

Thank you Dr. Frist. (nt) jeff47 Feb 2016 #202

Her use of the Ostrich Defense resulted in Bill's impeachment Divernan Feb 2016 #40

EVERYTHING THE REPUBLICANS EVER DID IS THE CLINTONS' FAULT!!!! bettyellen Feb 2016 #64

Maybe they don't see it as a popularity contest.... Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2016 #44

I don't think it is dislike Bettie Feb 2016 #46

It saves time. CharlotteVale Feb 2016 #48

Triangulation, flipFlopping, Lies..... Ferd Berfel Feb 2016 #50

The "I'm a woman, so vote for me" isn't going over all that well. SammyWinstonJack Feb 2016 #53

because the corruption is so blatant and shameless amborin Feb 2016 #57

She's like the tea party uncle at thanksgiving dinner Fearless Feb 2016 #75

That is an ageist based assumption... MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #76

After reading the nasty comments about them from her supporters I'm starting to think it's them. beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #80

Not so much a dislike of Hillary as a dislike of LibDemAlways Feb 2016 #81

I think it's because she's perceived as being a phony. jalan48 Feb 2016 #83

She just comes across as just another self-entitled oligarch that is only slightly more Katashi_itto Feb 2016 #88

Definitely my mommy issues IronLionZion Feb 2016 #90

I would not call it Mommy issues Nonhlanhla Feb 2016 #93

Yep, I think there is an assumption that the youth are immune to that sort of stereotyping.... bettyellen Feb 2016 #116

She's not the "cool mom." Atman Feb 2016 #98

Wow, you are on to something. bettyellen Feb 2016 #113

We all knew them when we were teens. Atman Feb 2016 #140

There is something deeply primal and stupid about those connections. bettyellen Feb 2016 #145

It's been a long time since I was young... Atman Feb 2016 #146

What's sad is she would have to be a younger and slimmer lady, soft pedaling it all bettyellen Feb 2016 #150

I totally understand. Atman Feb 2016 #153

Yeah, I get it. I was amazed my friend just felt the Bern in the last month- previously her BF bettyellen Feb 2016 #157

She is not appealing...period. noiretextatique Feb 2016 #188

Lack of rapport (nt) Babel_17 Feb 2016 #102

E S T A B L I S H M E N T NorthCarolina Feb 2016 #110

I agree ejbr Feb 2016 #144

People thought they were voting for Change with Obama. This time NorthCarolina Feb 2016 #149

Because... malokvale77 Feb 2016 #112

As a middle-aged person, I have a visceral dislike for Hillary because Arugula Latte Feb 2016 #119

..+1 840high Feb 2016 #139

"Bernie Sanders, as flawed as he might be" Matariki Feb 2016 #120

In short, they see Hillary as the SOS which has not been good for many of us. n/t RKP5637 Feb 2016 #128

Her deplorable low-down ugly campaign tactics of 2008 gyroscope Feb 2016 #134

Establishment. Young voters don't want the status quo davidn3600 Feb 2016 #137

All Older People I See That Detest Her billhicks76 Feb 2016 #142

A lot of old people listen to Rush Limbaugh ProudToBeBlueInRhody Feb 2016 #147

I feel like the only person on DU who actually knows a mix of supporters of all ages. bettyellen Feb 2016 #152

My parents are 82 and support Hillary ProudToBeBlueInRhody Feb 2016 #154

honestly, there are many people I am afraid to ask- I don't want to hear it- LOL. bettyellen Feb 2016 #159

Have You No Shame? billhicks76 Feb 2016 #158

That's what you got from my reply? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Feb 2016 #164

Are you tripping? Who brought up Bernie here-- YOU, not the other poster. bettyellen Feb 2016 #169

Just Being Real billhicks76 Feb 2016 #184

So you think it is trolls posting all the links to Breibart, Rush and RW trash here? bettyellen Feb 2016 #194

Because they don't pay bills. jeff47 Feb 2016 #143

Insane eom noiretextatique Feb 2016 #189

If by "pay the bills" we're talking about paying the price for the thievery involved in the econ ... Babel_17 Feb 2016 #207

Like Colbert said, he doesn't trust young people ... (wait for it, lol) Babel_17 Feb 2016 #208

She is not a good candidate. Not likable IMO. nt Logical Feb 2016 #151

+1000 the bottom line noiretextatique Feb 2016 #190

She gives off a strong whiff of "phony" with deep undertones of "ego." senz Feb 2016 #174

Its simple.. they don't trust her yourout Feb 2016 #176

This "old Democrat" shares that visceral dislike... DebbieCDC Feb 2016 #177

Young people know we are out of time. Do it now or never. They get it. And Sanders knows it also. glinda Feb 2016 #179

The Wizard of Oz called. He wants his straw man back. Hekate Feb 2016 #180

corporate war monger djfm Feb 2016 #182

What "Hillary trolls" are those? I'm confused. marble falls Feb 2016 #196

Hillary is the political equivalent of a corset. mhatrw Feb 2016 #183

Big Brands are in trouble. Politics are no exception. GreatGazoo Feb 2016 #193

Shes a Mcdonald's Big Mac. Cheap, filling, easy to understand and lousy for you in the long term. Katashi_itto Feb 2016 #195

It's her constant evolving when it is self-serving. EndElectoral Feb 2016 #206