2016 Postmortem

Warren DeMontague

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2. it didn't have to be this way.

Wed Feb 10, 2016, 05:08 AM

Feb 2016

But she made a conscious decision, as far as I can tell, to signal loud and clear once she got to the senate that she was "Hillary Clinton, moderate", "Hillary Clinton, defense hawk", "Hillary Clinton, values traditionalist"

if it was just one instance, okay, but it was a continual pattern, from the IWR vote to "marriage is a sacred bond between a man and a woman" to proposing flag burning legislation, for fuck's sake.

it's pretty hard to walk that shit back or imagine that no one is going to remember.

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Why people distrust Hillary Clinton [View all] EdwardBernays Feb 2016 OP

The poster child of money in politics gyroscope Feb 2016 #1

it didn't have to be this way. Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #2

Nice post. There was a lot of poor judgment. Piss poor judgment. Enthusiast Feb 2016 #20

I saw that HRC Group post. Wilms Feb 2016 #3

Even the way she presents herself tecelote Feb 2016 #4

She also sold out the sisterhood loyalsister Feb 2016 #5

She also blamed a 12 yr old rape victim for her own rape Major Nikon Feb 2016 #14

I have seen the excuse that she was just doing her job. Yep. She does whatever the money tells djean111 Feb 2016 #23

I'll say it straight. I do not trust Hillary Clinton. backscatter712 Feb 2016 #6

The ethical lapses in Iowa eilen Feb 2016 #7

Part of that is because of all the RW bullshit slung at both Clintons for 25 years eridani Feb 2016 #8

I would say 95% of the uneasy feelings about her were created by the right wingers... Human101948 Feb 2016 #13

Well, htere's her prior support for DADT, flipflopping on TPP Iraw and other issues eridani Feb 2016 #15

While there may be substantive reasons, I'll bet that the majority of voters couldn't name any... Human101948 Feb 2016 #18

Too true,but the only way to fight it is to have a clear set of values thqt underlie-- eridani Feb 2016 #19

I have to take issue with that. Those phoney scandals did not influence me in the least. Enthusiast Feb 2016 #24

You are a well informed voter... Human101948 Feb 2016 #27

Same here deutsey Feb 2016 #35

I Used To Trust Hillary gordyfl Feb 2016 #9

Just heard Morning Blow d_legendary1 Feb 2016 #10

MSNBC is like a new channel kracer20 Feb 2016 #32

I was surprised by Blow's comments as well d_legendary1 Feb 2016 #37

I see in her what I don't like in myself olddots Feb 2016 #11

I am amazed ejbr Feb 2016 #12

I think your story is all too common. I was also transformed. I was a true believer during Enthusiast Feb 2016 #31

Let's face it... Who ISN'T banned from the Hillary Group? MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #16

exactly-- I was banned for the most indirect and bland statement Fast Walker 52 Feb 2016 #21

Does being banned from the Hillary Group mean that we can say, on this DU board, that I DhhD Feb 2016 #38

Andrea Mitchell skewered her on the speaking fees last night WhaTHellsgoingonhere Feb 2016 #17

I debated alerting on your post noamnety Feb 2016 #22

Lol EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #36

Because She's A Filthy Liar billhicks76 Feb 2016 #25

I believe it's in the Great Gatsby there's a line about the rich (and powerful) "Not being like us". jalan48 Feb 2016 #26

Yep, corrupt as the day is long Iggy Knorr Feb 2016 #28

Political calculation Cayenneman Feb 2016 #29

Your "Since I'm banned from the Hillary Group" erlewyne Feb 2016 #30

I am banned too, which means to me that I am banned from even thinking about any Clinton' DhhD Feb 2016 #40

Triangulation. Beowulf Feb 2016 #33

I have to say I was expecting more from her after '08 deutsey Feb 2016 #34

Because of asuhornets Feb 2016 #39

Clinton was a Right Wing Goldwater supporter and Republican during her college years. n/t DhhD Feb 2016 #41

ok. asuhornets Feb 2016 #42

No EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #44

This might help: Hillary Clinton lying for 13 minutes straight MauriceLawrence96 Feb 2016 #43