2016 Postmortem

zalinda

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23. You have to have a leader

Wed Feb 10, 2016, 10:12 AM

Feb 2016

The world is made up of leaders and followers. In order to have a revolution, you have to have someone who can tell the followers what they need to do. This starting from the bottom up is only in the movies. In real life you have people in the Democratic party who decide who is going to get support and who is not. There are many stories of a liberal dem running only to have the party come along and either not support him, or run someone against him with their support. A revolution is kind of difficult when you have the party against you.

The people have been ready for a revolution for years, but there has been no one to gather around. People thought it was going to be Obama in 2008, turned out it was bait and switch. They even gave him another shot in 2012, again the same result. Only now does he seem to be doing SOMETHING for the little people, but then there is also the TPP. Those who are struggling came out in force to vote for him, and he let them down. Why the hell would people make an extraordinary effort in some cases to come out and vote in 2010 or2014 when nothing is going to change for them?

Bernie is our only hope, it has gotten so desperate out here. And I for one, am very grateful he has stepped forward to be our leader.

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What a lot of people don't seem to get about the popularity of Bernie Sanders [View all] Fast Walker 52 Feb 2016 OP

This Revolt Has Been Building For Years - The DWS, DNC, DLC, Third-Way Has Only Themselves To Blame cantbeserious Feb 2016 #1

Yes. LWolf Feb 2016 #3

I gave you a heart for that. I feel the same way about Bernie, and Nay Feb 2016 #2

Thanks! I so agree about the system. Fast Walker 52 Feb 2016 #9

The Clinton's are like bad cops... DeGreg Feb 2016 #63

All of the folks the party has left behind on its decades-long run to the right. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #4

exactly....if I wanted to be a Republican...I would be a Republican... islandmkl Feb 2016 #5

+1000000 SammyWinstonJack Feb 2016 #37

I'm still angry about when President Obama declared that his policies bvar22 Feb 2016 #59

.^that 840high Feb 2016 #67

I completely agree.. disillusioned73 Feb 2016 #6

Maybe that's partly the problem. They are 'waiting'. randome Feb 2016 #7

Damn right... hoosierlib Feb 2016 #11

You have to have a leader zalinda Feb 2016 #23

We've been working on it. jeff47 Feb 2016 #32

Folks also need to focus on the down ticket races NikolaC Feb 2016 #57

That is why getting Bernie nominatd is so important. bvar22 Feb 2016 #62

And yet you ridiculed the Occupy Movement and a "bunch of hippies wandering around a park." myrna minx Feb 2016 #60

The only thing liberal about the likes of Obama and Clinton gyroscope Feb 2016 #8

exactly-- but you will never hear this in the mainstream media! Fast Walker 52 Feb 2016 #10

Yup! And endlessly we will see on TV and hailed in print right-wingers whose positions have already Akamai Feb 2016 #12

And on trade and Wall Street reform gyroscope Feb 2016 #18

And Hillary was rather a long time coming to support gay marriage. SheilaT Feb 2016 #13

I don't think she genuinely does pinebox Feb 2016 #15

The only thing Hillary supports is what her bosses tell her madokie Feb 2016 #42

Yup! Plucketeer Feb 2016 #17

I completely agree! nt m-lekktor Feb 2016 #22

Great post! I see a difference on health care, though. JudyM Feb 2016 #28

I think you hit the nail on the head. hollowdweller Feb 2016 #35

And the Democrats can't even claim to have ended Don't Ask, Don't Tell. LiberalArkie Feb 2016 #40

Obama talks liberal on economics except for one sentence: "I don't really understand economics." ieoeja Feb 2016 #47

k&R , good points! Mbrow Feb 2016 #14

We've been told to shut up and vote for the establishment candidate for decades. liberal_at_heart Feb 2016 #16

Not that I've dutifully played along Plucketeer Feb 2016 #19

Remember everybody dissing Dean and going for Kerry because he was more electable? hollowdweller Feb 2016 #36

Why do the electable candidates never win? pengu Feb 2016 #74

"Popular" doesn't translate into being "Presidential". George II Feb 2016 #20

In what ways are you implying he is not "Presidential," in your opinion? JudyM Feb 2016 #30

Are you unaware of the concept of democracy, which does in fact mean that the most popular candidate Bluenorthwest Feb 2016 #31

We do not live in a democracy...we have a representative republic. Moostache Feb 2016 #54

Whatever the fuck that means. frylock Feb 2016 #44

Right now Peyton Manning is very popular, but he'd never get elected President. George II Feb 2016 #49

Whatever the fuck that means. frylock Feb 2016 #51

Well said!! SHRED Feb 2016 #21

Disaffected liberals are only part of his coalition firebrand80 Feb 2016 #24

I have been waiting my whole life to vote for a Sanders SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #25

The pebbles are moving RoccoR5955 Feb 2016 #26

And where has Bernie Sanders been for all those years? liberal N proud Feb 2016 #27

And? dana_b Feb 2016 #33

My country has been gradually compromised away since Reagan. Half-Century Man Feb 2016 #29

Thanks largely to Gary Hart and Gennifer Flowers. ieoeja Feb 2016 #50

"Strong people don't need strong leaders" Ella Baker Half-Century Man Feb 2016 #56

I agree for the most part, TIME TO PANIC Feb 2016 #34

I totally agree! Stevepol Feb 2016 #41

Yeah, the establishment did not see this coming. TIME TO PANIC Feb 2016 #46

Well said, thanks. nt Zorra Feb 2016 #38

Every time a Republican says to me, with a shit eating grin, mountain grammy Feb 2016 #39

Indeed! Fast Walker 52 Feb 2016 #52

I guess I'm not part of "a lot" wolfie001 Feb 2016 #43

Good post - Here's a piece from Bill McKibben that addresses 'the process' and GoneOffShore Feb 2016 #45

cool-- thanks! Fast Walker 52 Feb 2016 #55

We've been waiting for a REAL Democrat since Carter. Cheap_Trick Feb 2016 #48

You nailed it. NowSam Feb 2016 #53

Like, trust, and respect, for the POTUS can help the public favor our platform Babel_17 Feb 2016 #58

Yes! Utopian Leftist Feb 2016 #61

The problem is everyone has bought the idea what's good for Wall Street is good for Main Street.... Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2016 #64

Nah, it's just misogynistic berniebros, who make up lies about Hillary voting for the IWR and stuff Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #65

Sanders is a direct consequence of Obama: he started as Rahm's "icebreaker" in Springfield MisterP Feb 2016 #66

Excellent piece. Thanks dpatbrown Feb 2016 #68

My feelings exactly Armstead Feb 2016 #69

Well considering where Hillary Trump is going with this. PatrynXX Feb 2016 #70

Proud FDR, JFK, RFK Progressive Democrat here! Dont call me Shirley Feb 2016 #71

Will he be able to win in November? AbsoFUCKINGlutely Vincardog Feb 2016 #72

Very simply, I support Bernie because Bernie Marie Marie Feb 2016 #73

K&R. Great point about how crucial his running-mate selection would be. bullwinkle428 Feb 2016 #75