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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: What a lot of people don't seem to get about the popularity of Bernie Sanders [View all]ieoeja
(9,748 posts)50. Thanks largely to Gary Hart and Gennifer Flowers.
Bill Clinton was not even on my radar til the Gennifer Flowers thing came up. While his apology was way over the top (the Bible Belt is one sick place) the fact that he continued on instead of backing down was a big game changer when contrasted with Gary Hart in the previous election.
The one dropdead attribute in presidential politics is "wimp". Hart dropped out over an alleged affair. Then he discovered that he actually went up in the polls after the affair came up. So he jumped back in. And he immediately plumetted in the polls because he initially wimped out.
So when Bill did not wimp out in response to the Flowers affair, people like me thought we finally had a liberal fighter on our hands. As the movie line went, we thought the 90s were going to make the 80s look like the 60s did the 50s. And the non-stop attack machine kept us too busy defending Bill from stupid, fake scandals to pay attention to the sell out.
The 80s should have been an abberation. One does not stop progress. One only slows it down to give people time to catch up (future shock). Reagan was a predictable reaction to the rapid social progress of the 60s and 70s. Clinton should never have happened. The 90s ended up being the abberation.
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What a lot of people don't seem to get about the popularity of Bernie Sanders [View all]
Fast Walker 52
Feb 2016
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This Revolt Has Been Building For Years - The DWS, DNC, DLC, Third-Way Has Only Themselves To Blame
cantbeserious
Feb 2016
#1
All of the folks the party has left behind on its decades-long run to the right.
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
Feb 2016
#4
And yet you ridiculed the Occupy Movement and a "bunch of hippies wandering around a park."
myrna minx
Feb 2016
#60
Yup! And endlessly we will see on TV and hailed in print right-wingers whose positions have already
Akamai
Feb 2016
#12
Obama talks liberal on economics except for one sentence: "I don't really understand economics."
ieoeja
Feb 2016
#47
We've been told to shut up and vote for the establishment candidate for decades.
liberal_at_heart
Feb 2016
#16
Remember everybody dissing Dean and going for Kerry because he was more electable?
hollowdweller
Feb 2016
#36
Are you unaware of the concept of democracy, which does in fact mean that the most popular candidate
Bluenorthwest
Feb 2016
#31
Right now Peyton Manning is very popular, but he'd never get elected President.
George II
Feb 2016
#49
Good post - Here's a piece from Bill McKibben that addresses 'the process' and
GoneOffShore
Feb 2016
#45
Like, trust, and respect, for the POTUS can help the public favor our platform
Babel_17
Feb 2016
#58
The problem is everyone has bought the idea what's good for Wall Street is good for Main Street....
Spitfire of ATJ
Feb 2016
#64
Nah, it's just misogynistic berniebros, who make up lies about Hillary voting for the IWR and stuff
Warren DeMontague
Feb 2016
#65