2016 Postmortem

TCJ70

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109. She's definitely changed her strategy in terms of tone...

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Thu Feb 11, 2016, 10:27 PM

Feb 2016

...still going hard on the "Bernie doesn't know what he's doing" stuff.

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PBS NewsHour Democratic Debate -- LIVE THREAD #1 [View all] brooklynite Feb 2016 OP

Continue the pattern of standing behind podiums... brooklynite Feb 2016 #1

Format brooklynite Feb 2016 #2

1/60th the time Lincoln and Douglas got (nt) Recursion Feb 2016 #7

Opening Statements brooklynite Feb 2016 #3

thank you, B! bettyellen Feb 2016 #86

Bernie's opening wasn't smooth firebrand80 Feb 2016 #4

It honestly was not. Joe the Revelator Feb 2016 #6

yep not the best, hope he Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #9

a break already? Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #5

If there was a mic problem that might make sense (nt) Recursion Feb 2016 #10

I see Hillary is going with #StealTheBern tonight. Fawke Em Feb 2016 #8

she got the pandering in Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #11

You said it! Steal the Bern is right! and she is full of it... tokenlib Feb 2016 #19

Hi folks, I'm bernie Sanders .... in yellow! pangaia Feb 2016 #44

That color doesn't look good on her. Fawke Em Feb 2016 #258

I agree you guys having to wear a new outfit every day. :>)) pangaia Feb 2016 #266

Opening statement SheenaR Feb 2016 #12

timing is everything. nt restorefreedom Feb 2016 #20

"I'm running for president to knock down all the barriers that are holding Americans back," -Hillary ProudToBeLiberal Feb 2016 #13

it is this week Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #18

*snerk* nt restorefreedom Feb 2016 #24

Thanks. valerief Feb 2016 #14

Hillary wants to give all a "chance." Bernie wants to give all a "right." morningfog Feb 2016 #15

this right here^^^^^^ nt restorefreedom Feb 2016 #26

Question to Sanders: How big a role do you see for Federal Government? brooklynite Feb 2016 #16

Poor response by Sanders hollowdweller Feb 2016 #64

LIVE STREAM Link quantass Feb 2016 #17

He didn't answer the question... JudyM Feb 2016 #21

Woodruff and Ifill are one of the best journalists of our generation NYCButterfinger Feb 2016 #22

Both are close friends of the Bush family. eom Mika Feb 2016 #120

Right away, Hillary attacks LittleBlue Feb 2016 #23

LOL! We spun it totally differently. nolabear Feb 2016 #29

Hillary is being very measured in tone, but getting right into issues. nolabear Feb 2016 #25

I call RW Talking Point! OrwellwasRight Feb 2016 #27

It's not. It's an Middle America talking point NYCButterfinger Feb 2016 #36

"smart, accountable" doesn't mean small OrwellwasRight Feb 2016 #65

. Wig Master Feb 2016 #76

I'm not sure "No we Can't" is a good theme for Hillary as a dem. hollowdweller Feb 2016 #73

The role of government should be smart and accountable NYCButterfinger Feb 2016 #28

What are your plans Hillary? FFS ViseGrip Feb 2016 #30

No one knows beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #34

I thought I was watching Star Trek when she came on stage! RKP5637 Feb 2016 #105

bernie puts to rest the "dismantle aca" bullshit restorefreedom Feb 2016 #31

"It was called Hillary Care before it was Obama Care" book_worm Feb 2016 #32

She's saying that like it existed... TCJ70 Feb 2016 #35

Moderators allowing back and forth...good idea brooklynite Feb 2016 #33

I like that too. Lets things so deeper. nolabear Feb 2016 #42

Clinton framing as support for Obama policies brooklynite Feb 2016 #37

Go Bernie! He will fight for our healthcare!!!! RiverLover Feb 2016 #38

I liked it better when they asked people to refrain from clapping.... Joe the Revelator Feb 2016 #39

Me, too. nt valerief Feb 2016 #41

because they seem to love Hillary. it is her room tonight. not that she owns them, LOL bettyellen Feb 2016 #108

nah i didn't like it last week either when they boo'd her for the 'artful smear' remark Joe the Revelator Feb 2016 #156

when the cheers and boos collide it gets hella confusing! but I do like a rousing round of bettyellen Feb 2016 #163

Same here. It starts to get annoying. n/t RKP5637 Feb 2016 #122

Oh Hill-a-ry. My my my. nt nc4bo Feb 2016 #40

So far, Hillary has brought her A game, imo Joe the Revelator Feb 2016 #43

I think so too. nolabear Feb 2016 #49

Universal Health Care "Coverage"? OrwellwasRight Feb 2016 #45

gotta feed those insurance companies restorefreedom Feb 2016 #71

The insurance companies are the big winners in the AHA. southerncrone Feb 2016 #252

Yes, which is why single payer OrwellwasRight Feb 2016 #255

Absolutely! southerncrone Feb 2016 #259

He's killing it! RiverLover Feb 2016 #46

Lots of back and forth. longship Feb 2016 #47

Worse off than the ACA with Medicare for all?! PyaarRevolution Feb 2016 #48

No we can't...no we can't...no we can't!!!! TTUBatfan2008 Feb 2016 #50

Inspiring isn't it? hibbing Feb 2016 #90

Bernie's hitting his stride now. bklyncowgirl Feb 2016 #51

vigorous exchange on health care book_worm Feb 2016 #52

Clinton: we have to guarantee health care; we're on the path to doing that... brooklynite Feb 2016 #53

And a plan to go from there to where we want to be. nolabear Feb 2016 #60

It only requires the Republicans to pass bills boosting the ACA. jeff47 Feb 2016 #254

Why isn't Hillary acknowledging that at some point... TCJ70 Feb 2016 #54

Defending for-profit healthcare she just did it "because tradition" and WW2 elehhhhna Feb 2016 #55

Yeah, ugh. PyaarRevolution Feb 2016 #101

Because we're not Europe or Canada Darnit we are America elehhhhna Feb 2016 #119

I thought HDSam Feb 2016 #56

She evolved.nt nc4bo Feb 2016 #58

...... restorefreedom Feb 2016 #83

But HDSam Feb 2016 #88

#stealthebern. nt nc4bo Feb 2016 #95

This is good. Some time with the issues. Only having two people is great. nolabear Feb 2016 #57

Question to Clinton: You've proposed expansive Govt...Should people who fear Govt fear you? brooklynite Feb 2016 #59

starting all over again...wft..,she is obsessed with this lie restorefreedom Feb 2016 #61

She's trying really hard to paint him as dishonest... TCJ70 Feb 2016 #62

Hillary now championing Universal Healthcare? Deny and Shred Feb 2016 #63

Oh My god.... It makes me sneeze pangaia Feb 2016 #98

She usually looks great in yellow. Her makeup is way too pasty. Maybe a cold? hedda_foil Feb 2016 #129

Now that you speak of her god-awful color choice Rocky the Leprechaun Feb 2016 #256

Probably a message to Wall Street. I stand w/the gold. southerncrone Feb 2016 #257

Could be Deny and Shred Feb 2016 #268

Star Trek Mao uhnope Feb 2016 #269

"Making promises we can't keep will alienate Americans" brooklynite Feb 2016 #66

Hillary Sanders.nt nc4bo Feb 2016 #67

We inherited the healthcare system from WWII? Wasn't it non-profit back then? valerief Feb 2016 #68

Do you mean the health care provider system or the health insurance system? Recursion Feb 2016 #126

hrc the new robot juxtaposed Feb 2016 #69

8.0, 9.0, 10.1? I can't keep track anymore. nt nc4bo Feb 2016 #77

BERRRRRRRRRN!!!!!! firebrand80 Feb 2016 #70

An actual $$ figure. And a plan for raising it. Good! nolabear Feb 2016 #72

"Secretary Clinton, You're Not in the White House Yet" brooklynite Feb 2016 #74

Sounds like a slightly pro-Hillary audience firebrand80 Feb 2016 #81

Yea, I got that feeling as well! eom Karma13612 Feb 2016 #132

Hillary does seem to have the advantage where the audience is concerned. nolabear Feb 2016 #91

Is there a streaming link? nt Bonobo Feb 2016 #75

Here brooklynite Feb 2016 #78

Thank you! nt Bonobo Feb 2016 #85

Sure... TCJ70 Feb 2016 #79

Slanted questions so far rufus dog Feb 2016 #80

Okay some specifics from Bernie. Good to hear. nolabear Feb 2016 #82

You're not in the white house yet, and the crowd laughs nervously. nt ProudToBeLiberal Feb 2016 #84

She never said she was, Bern. Keep going low and see where you end up. She's getting under his skin. farmboy Feb 2016 #112

Great reference to Gov. Scott Walker here in WI by Hillary book_worm Feb 2016 #87

The 'ol Scott Walker card, eh? firebrand80 Feb 2016 #89

Sanders' plan call on Governors to contribute to Higher Education tuition... brooklynite Feb 2016 #92

Excellent remarks about public ed by Bernie. hollowdweller Feb 2016 #93

This message was self-deleted by its author AtomicKitten Feb 2016 #94

He's beginning to sound repetitious. His details for financing are a lot of "shoulds" is losing me. ancianita Feb 2016 #96

Oh my gosh! Marcia just got hit in the nose with a football! Kurovski Feb 2016 #97

Don't pick up the tiki, Bobby! myrna minx Feb 2016 #159

WHAT!!? Kurovski Feb 2016 #175

Too many gimlets - they left me behind in the green room. myrna minx Feb 2016 #200

Isn't Gwynneth Paltrow there? Kurovski Feb 2016 #207

I certainly hope so - considering all of the twirling I was doing on the red carpet. myrna minx Feb 2016 #230

Did I hear that right?College kids shouldn't have to work in factories or on farms? nolabear Feb 2016 #99

No hollowdweller Feb 2016 #106

I know. But kids are delivering pizzas not working in factories. That's part of the issue. nolabear Feb 2016 #208

No, he was saying that today isn't the same as the 1950's, femmedem Feb 2016 #114

Don't kid yourself, it's all a collective farm once Bern gets in. Kurovski Feb 2016 #194

Question to Clinton: You've made a clear appeal to Women Voters. brooklynite Feb 2016 #100

Fair question. And fair answer. Not a barn burner. nolabear Feb 2016 #102

woodruffs mention of albrights hell comment just got booed. nt restorefreedom Feb 2016 #103

Boos for Albright LittleBlue Feb 2016 #104

She was a better SOS than you know who. hollowdweller Feb 2016 #113

Oh boy. The Allbright question. Hillary did a good job of moving to real issues. nolabear Feb 2016 #107

and not answering the question Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #118

I'm not taking that bait. nolabear Feb 2016 #125

she should of just said she did not agree Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #133

She's definitely changed her strategy in terms of tone... TCJ70 Feb 2016 #109

she will not answer that Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #110

"This is the first time there's been a majority of Women on stage"...progress brooklynite Feb 2016 #111

That was a great comeback Arazi Feb 2016 #121

Thanks for the thread femmedem Feb 2016 #145

Hell is for children. Kurovski Feb 2016 #115

No, children go to limbo Wig Master Feb 2016 #149

You mean the Limbo Song? Kurovski Feb 2016 #155

Where the bloody hell is my Downton Abbey? Kurovski Feb 2016 #158

A majority of women on the stage. I'm actually touched by that. nolabear Feb 2016 #116

Very strong statement by HRC on women's issues book_worm Feb 2016 #117

Question to Sanders: Do you think you'll be accused of thwarting the first Woman President? brooklynite Feb 2016 #123

oh balls, claiming sanders will "thwart history" restorefreedom Feb 2016 #124

Did I just hear Ifell ask if Bernie was worried about "thwarting history"? cherokeeprogressive Feb 2016 #127

yup. hard to believe restorefreedom Feb 2016 #131

"The most experienced, prepared person to be president" book_worm Feb 2016 #128

Not quite. Look up the resume of HW Bush sometime. (nt) jeff47 Feb 2016 #260

My vagina says hell no to Hillary. nt nc4bo Feb 2016 #130

WOW. You could take that act on the road! nolabear Feb 2016 #138

Heeeeyyyy! Nola....what can I say LOL nc4bo Feb 2016 #148

Does that mean there ARE teeth down there after all. Kurovski Feb 2016 #165

Not gonna trot down that road. We do have a right to privacy. nt nc4bo Feb 2016 #184

LOL Kurovski Feb 2016 #203

amen. restorefreedom Feb 2016 #144

And my penis says "Go, Hillary, Go!" farmboy Feb 2016 #146

She wasn't discussing the vaginally deficient farmboy. Sowwy. Nt nc4bo Feb 2016 #157

I heard Hilary say that she works for empowerment of women AND men to make their best decisions. farmboy Feb 2016 #211

No p zone. She was riding a feminine head wind. Yall can help but....... nc4bo Feb 2016 #224

Mostly, yes, but she included me. Try being more inclusive. It is a good place to be! farmboy Feb 2016 #235

This message was self-deleted by its author Wig Master Feb 2016 #170

I think HRC is pretty strong tonight book_worm Feb 2016 #134

This Bernie supporter... TCJ70 Feb 2016 #136

I'm a Sanders fan but I think she always comes off great. hollowdweller Feb 2016 #141

Exposure... TTUBatfan2008 Feb 2016 #167

It only makes her stronger if she uses it wisely. jeff47 Feb 2016 #262

Completely agree with that... TTUBatfan2008 Feb 2016 #263

Same here. She does an excellent job. And both of them make me proud and happy I'm a RKP5637 Feb 2016 #193

Agreed! Bravo! Arazi Feb 2016 #142

I'm unapologetically happy about Hillary's desire to foreground women's rights. nolabear Feb 2016 #135

I have never loved Bernie as much until this moment! bettyellen Feb 2016 #137

Yay- marijuana and justice right after abortions! Atta boy Bernie! bettyellen Feb 2016 #147

NARAL called my mom today. PyaarRevolution Feb 2016 #139

Facebook question: What can we do about African-American incarceration rate (double national rate) brooklynite Feb 2016 #140

Sanders: radical reform of criminal justice system brooklynite Feb 2016 #143

I agree with him on that rbrnmw Feb 2016 #152

Excellent answer on justice reform from Sanders n/t TCJ70 Feb 2016 #150

Clinton: first speech I gave was about criminal justice reform brooklynite Feb 2016 #151

me, too! nt restorefreedom Feb 2016 #153

How can Hillary be believed that she will work to actively prevent Mass Incarceration... PyaarRevolution Feb 2016 #154

She takes Big Prison $$!.Ugh her ability to lie convincingly is scary Arazi Feb 2016 #161

that is why that whoever wins, you have to keep working the midterms and local elections. bettyellen Feb 2016 #178

give em hell, bernie! nt restorefreedom Feb 2016 #160

Question to Clinton: Hardly anyone believes race relations better under President Obama... brooklynite Feb 2016 #162

Good work in this thread, btw. Joe the Revelator Feb 2016 #164

Clinton: we're seeing the dark side of remaining racism brooklynite Feb 2016 #171

She's not answering... TCJ70 Feb 2016 #174

Hillary not falling into the anti-O trap there BeyondGeography Feb 2016 #166

yes, he is perfect Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #191

What's his approval rating with D voters in SC? BeyondGeography Feb 2016 #209

Loving these moderators Arazi Feb 2016 #168

dammit, hillary, its not an accomplishemt to get them insurance... restorefreedom Feb 2016 #169

...and doesn't Sanders see that Wall Street reform doesn't help them either? brooklynite Feb 2016 #177

so letting the big money guys skate restorefreedom Feb 2016 #236

Well said. PyaarRevolution Feb 2016 #187

:) nt restorefreedom Feb 2016 #239

Wish Bernie would mention Clinton's funding from the private prison lobbyists Chezboo Feb 2016 #172

he rarely attacks dana_b Feb 2016 #181

What Sec Clinton should have pointed out is that the GOP has done nothing but book_worm Feb 2016 #173

Bernie seems tired or something firebrand80 Feb 2016 #176

Nah...he doesn't yell all the time... TCJ70 Feb 2016 #180

Someone should mention Wall St. firebrand80 Feb 2016 #198

Is his voice raspy? my feed has a gurgle and pixelation issue. bettyellen Feb 2016 #183

Sounds like he might have a bit of a cold nt firebrand80 Feb 2016 #190

He seems to have a bad cough. There's a lot of viruses going around. I hope he's ok. hedda_foil Feb 2016 #267

Anyone hearing she's using "we" so much more now? Arazi Feb 2016 #179

I wondered if she was. Good move. nolabear Feb 2016 #185

in the first part she was saying "I", "I", "I" but dana_b Feb 2016 #195

She's been watching those game tapes. Definitely an improvement, nt nc4bo Feb 2016 #196

Agreed (nt) Kurovski Feb 2016 #245

Sanders pivots back to economic message brooklynite Feb 2016 #182

when I visited Milwaukee as a kid, I thought it was 100% white. I had no idea.... bettyellen Feb 2016 #189

Question about "white people"... brooklynite Feb 2016 #186

Clinton discusses alcoholism, addition, etc. brooklynite Feb 2016 #188

It was, and a good one too! BTW- thanks for stating this thread and your comments!!! n/t RKP5637 Feb 2016 #205

is it true your slogan is "we hate white people"? A DUer suggested that to me this week. LOL CRAZY! bettyellen Feb 2016 #206

Sander's answer on the racial issue is a bit tone def. He keeps bringing up wall street. nt ProudToBeLiberal Feb 2016 #192

not recognizing the connection is whats tone deaf. nt restorefreedom Feb 2016 #220

What is her plan on helping coal country? Sincere question. Joe the Revelator Feb 2016 #197

Here's her plan for the coal communities ProudToBeLiberal Feb 2016 #217

Thank you. Joe the Revelator Feb 2016 #253

Coal country jobs. PyaarRevolution Feb 2016 #199

West Virginia is a great great state, with some of the nicest people I've met..... Joe the Revelator Feb 2016 #202

Work doesn't pay in WV hollowdweller Feb 2016 #223

Not in coal country hollowdweller Feb 2016 #214

Yep! It's a beautiful state! n/t RKP5637 Feb 2016 #228

The WV legislature is working to kill that. jeff47 Feb 2016 #264

Persistent generational poverty is a real issue that doesn't get discussed often enough. nolabear Feb 2016 #201

it is, that was a good point. looking at neighborhoods. JudyM Feb 2016 #213

trade now Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #204

Yeah he was great on the NAFTA comment. PyaarRevolution Feb 2016 #218

Question to Sanders: One source of anxiety to working class people is immigrants brooklynite Feb 2016 #210

The answer is "Yes." Nice and to the point. nolabear Feb 2016 #212

Sanders: Bring (immigrant) families together brooklynite Feb 2016 #216

THANK YOU! I missed a bit from the phone call and appreciate your summaries! bettyellen Feb 2016 #219

I feel like he is finally giving POTUS some credit while disagreeing. Smart. bettyellen Feb 2016 #215

It is smart. nolabear Feb 2016 #227

I think they BOTH have polished their acts, just in the last week. Nice !!! bettyellen Feb 2016 #240

I agree. Again, they are the adults. We NEED adults. nolabear Feb 2016 #242

^^^THIS RIGHT THERE ^^^ bettyellen Feb 2016 #247

she is against president Obama Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #221

WOW. Executive order for immigrants. BOLD. nolabear Feb 2016 #222

Clinton: I voted for comprehensive immigration reform; Sen Sanders voted against it brooklynite Feb 2016 #225

boom, he explains it Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #233

Guest worker program "Akin to slavery" TTUBatfan2008 Feb 2016 #238

Voting to keep gov open amendments were snuck in bjobotts Feb 2016 #270

Maybe start a new thread? Getting long Arazi Feb 2016 #226

Yes please. nolabear Feb 2016 #231

Wow, bernie is nailing this debate. Has far exceeded my expectations! californiabernin Feb 2016 #229

Agreed. 100% agree. eom Arazi Feb 2016 #241

HEY GUYS- Is there a better feed than PBS? This is AWFUL!! bettyellen Feb 2016 #232

I'm watching on CNN. Seems OK. n/t RKP5637 Feb 2016 #246

must be a local FIOS issue. :-( Tks! bettyellen Feb 2016 #251

try GreatGazoo Feb 2016 #250

I disagree with Bernie on this (partially...immigration)... TCJ70 Feb 2016 #234

Tks for the summary- I could not make out half his words. Grrr. Garbled feed sucks. bettyellen Feb 2016 #244

Actually, we can. jeff47 Feb 2016 #265

Continuation thread..... brooklynite Feb 2016 #237

Bernie is right on the guest worker program hollowdweller Feb 2016 #243

he should have gotten her on the private prison thing there n/t dana_b Feb 2016 #248

Woah, great response back against President Kennedy's bill by Bernie. PyaarRevolution Feb 2016 #249

The public isn't stupid! GO Bernie!!! RiverLover Feb 2016 #261